2021-2022 S Blues Multi-Purpose Thread Part 3

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joe galiba

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Sooooooo……DA put out the feelers on Krug.

I wonder if a few teams are interested.

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I kind of suspect that feelers weren't put out as much as his name was discussed, along with most of our players, in the course of normal conversations that happen all the time and it becomes "a feeler" to feed clicks
 

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I kind of suspect that feelers weren't put out as much as his name was discussed, along with most of our players, in the course of normal conversations that happen all the time and it becomes "a feeler" to feed clicks
I have the opposite of this instinct. Krug's contract is glaring to the point it takes determination not to notice what a problem it is. (1) It's the most ill-fitting contract in the area of the team that needs the most work. (2) However, the player himself is still serviceable for his skillset. Those two factors lead directly and logically to Krug's name being out there. (3) A reporter who talks to GMs and has proven a decent reporter saying he's talked to GMs who know Krug's name is out there, so there is an actual tangible report tied to Krug.

It's not a situation where you should decide to go counter-intuitive and assume none of the three items are true.
 

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I have the opposite of this instinct. Krug's contract is glaring to the point it takes determination not to notice what a problem it is. (1) It's the most ill-fitting contract in the area of the team that needs the most work. (2) However, the player himself is still serviceable for his skillset. Those two factors lead directly and logically to Krug's name being out there. (3) A reporter who talks to GMs and has proven a decent reporter saying he's talked to GMs who know Krug's name is out there, so there is an actual tangible report tied to Krug.

It's not a situation where you should decide to go counter-intuitive and assume none of the three items are true.
Is Krugs name out there b/c DA is shopping him? maybe
is his name out there b/c other GM's know we have a potential cap crunch coming and are asking? maybe
could it be a reporter speculating based on their knowledge of the situation for clicks? a possibility as well
 

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Is Krugs name out there b/c DA is shopping him? maybe
is his name out there b/c other GM's know we have a potential cap crunch coming and are asking? maybe
could it be a reporter speculating based on their knowledge of the situation for clicks? a possibility as well
Your instinct is Severalli reported this for clicks. In the recent past he has earned much more benefit of the doubt than that.
 

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Your instinct is Severalli reported this for clicks. In the recent past he has earned much more benefit of the doubt than that.
maybe
but, if a GM tells him off the record that they talked with the Blues about Krug he can report it as a "feeler"
but context matters
if the GM asked DA about Krug that is different than DA calling up the GM and offering up Krug
yet it can be reported the same way, and it is entirely possible that Severelli doesn't know which way this went or the GM could be shading his conversation a certain way for his own purposes, or this could be the best language to use to create the most buzz
 

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Your instinct is Severalli reported this for clicks. In the recent past he has earned much more benefit of the doubt than that.
Seravalli has been deadly accurate in the last 1-2 cycles. Seemed to have more scoops than anyone.

Single-handedly released every Kraken pick in the expansion draft.
 

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maybe
but, if a GM tells him off the record that they talked with the Blues about Krug he can report it as a "feeler"
but context matters
if the GM asked DA about Krug that is different than DA calling up the GM and offering up Krug
yet it can be reported the same way, and it is entirely possible that Severelli doesn't know which way this went or the GM could be shading his conversation a certain way for his own purposes, or this could be the best language to use to create the most buzz
You are looking way too far into a situation that is very obvious.

The Blues need to clear cap space. Period. Probably nobody wants Scandella. Krug has a big contract and could potentially be replaced by guys like Perunovich and/or Leddy.

Therefore, the Blues are having conversations with teams about Krug. It makes complete sense, it's not just for "clicks."
 

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is Krug being shopped to the Kraken?
Who knows. But what I suspect happened is that Armstrong mentioned Krug's name in trade talks with one or more teams, and with the connections that Seravalli has league-wide, those discussions were made known to Seravalli.
 
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You are looking way too far into a situation that is very obvious.

The Blues need to clear cap space. Period. Probably nobody wants Scandella. Krug has a big contract and could potentially be replaced by guys like Perunovich and/or Leddy.

Therefore, the Blues are having conversations with teams about Krug. It makes complete sense, it's not just for "clicks."
it does make complete sense, that is why I said he could be reporting it based on his knowledge of the situation, not a specific case of DA putting out a feeler, rather a GM saying that Krug was talked about

and reporters are ALWAYS reporting for the views or clicks or the equivalent, it is their job, if they are not getting read then they are not going to be employed for long
 

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it does make complete sense, that is why I said he could be reporting it based on his knowledge of the situation, not a specific case of DA putting out a feeler, rather a GM saying that Krug was talked about

and reporters are ALWAYS reporting for the views or clicks or the equivalent, it is their job, if they are not getting read then they are not going to be employed for long
I understand but you also have to realize that GMs have A LOT of discussions. There are multiple players on every team that have probably been mentioned in somewhat serious trade talks that we don't even know about. So I think a lot of the rumors are more than just "this one team called and asked about a guy." There's very few untouchable players so most GMs are willing to listen on guys.
 
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2022-2023 schedule, outstanding "dead last" potential for lazy hype hockey people in the era of advanced statistics

Thru Oct 18
3 teams played 5 games
4 teams played 4 games
18 teams played 3 games
6 teams played 2 games
1 team played 1 game

Thru Oct 21
3 teams played 6 games
6 teams played 5 games
18 teams played 4 games
4 teams played 3 games
1 team played 2 games

You know who the one team is.
 
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2022-2023 schedule, outstanding "dead last" potential for lazy hype hockey people in the era of advanced statistics

Thru Oct 18
3 teams played 5 games
4 teams played 4 games
18 teams played 3 games
6 teams played 2 games
1 team played 1 game

Thru Oct 21
3 teams played 6 games
6 teams played 5 games
18 teams played 4 games
4 teams played 3 games
1 team played 2 games

You know who the one team is.
3 games in the first two weeks of the schedule followed by 4 games in 6 nights in Week 3. Bravo, NHL!
 
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TRADE ALERT:

Rangers trade Georgiev to Avalanche!

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So now I wonder...do the Blues maybe...key word here: MAYBE...package negotiating rights to Husso in a trade for some defensive help or a draft pick?

Just speculating here...please feel free to reply...politely...
 

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I kind of suspect that feelers weren't put out as much as his name was discussed, along with most of our players, in the course of normal conversations that happen all the time and it becomes "a feeler" to feed clicks
I just felt up my clicker. Love it!
 
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TRADE ALERT:

Rangers trade Georgiev to Avalanche!

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So now I wonder...do the Blues maybe...key word here: MAYBE...package negotiating rights to Husso in a trade for some defensive help or a draft pick?

Just speculating here...please feel free to reply...politely...
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Husso’s rights are traded for a middle round pick today or tomorrow.

They’re almost certainly not keeping Husso so if there’s a team or teams out there willing to give you something for his right, why not? Even if it’s peanuts, peanuts is better than nothing.
 
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I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Husso’s rights are traded for a middle round pick today or tomorrow.

They’re almost certainly not keeping Husso so if there’s a team or teams out there willing to give you something for his right, why not? Even if it’s peanuts, peanuts is better than nothing.
You say that, but many folks are allergic to peanuts. They'd much rather have nothing than go into anaphylactic shock.
 

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TRADE ALERT:

Rangers trade Georgiev to Avalanche!

Story from TSN

So now I wonder...do the Blues maybe...key word here: MAYBE...package negotiating rights to Husso in a trade for some defensive help or a draft pick?

Just speculating here...please feel free to reply...politely...
I don't think that trade makes any trade of Husso's rights more or less likely. Georgiev is a pending RFA, so the Avs can simply qualify him and retain his rights if a deal can't be reached ASAP. The rumblings around Husso are that he is looking to find a team to give him starter money (as he should), so a team who trades for his rights would have to overpay him to prevent him from hitting the UFA market.

A team could throw a late pick at us for his rights, but I don't think this trade does a ton to encourage that. If anything, it removes one of the teams potentially competing for Husso in UFA and adds a goalie with a better resume to the UFA market.
 
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With Bolduc and Snuggerud specifically earmarked for PP duties because of their shot, it sure feels like the organization is bracing for the loss of Perron and Tarasenko over the near horizon.
 
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With Bolduc and Snuggerud specifically earmarked for PP duties because of their shot, it sure feels like the organization is bracing for the loss of Perron and Tarasenko over the near horizon.
I mean, Tarasenko had one year left and is going to be 31 going on 32 when he needs his cover renewed and is 34. Of course they are going to be looking at the near future without the 30+ YO players when drafting.
 
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I mean, Tarasenko had one year left and is going to be 31 going on 32 when he needs his cover renewed and is 34. Of course they are going to be looking at the near future without the 30+ YO players when drafting.
I think both Perron and Tarasenko have more miles on them. Perron is a late bloomer and Tarasenko has a lot of drive left. They both do. I wouldn't hate it if either player stayed on the Blues for those years because they would contribute. There are 30+ players on defense too; I believe Krug will be a true scrub on the ice before either Perron or Tarasenko, so there are needs in multiple places. They're drafting shooting wingers right at the top of the last two drafts and it seems significant.
 

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So the draft is over and we are not any closer to knowing what to expect our roster to look like for next season. It will be fascinating to see what, if anything, happens over the next week.

I will say that Armstrong usually strikes out of nowhere so I would not be surprised to see something happen that we didn't see coming.

However, I would also be A-OK with keeping our roster as status-quo as possible, as I don't think we need big moves except to find a way to strengthen LHD.
 
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So the draft is over and we are not any closer to knowing what to expect our roster to look like for next season. It will be fascinating to see what, if anything, happens over the next week.

I will say that Armstrong usually strikes out of nowhere so I would not be surprised to see something happen that we didn't see coming.

However, I would also be A-OK with keeping our roster as status-quo as possible, as I don't think we need big moves except to find a way to strengthen LHD.
DA only seems to strike out of nowhere if you rely on JR to point what he will do. If you try to think like he does, his moves are far less unpredictable. ROR, Saad, Buchy, Leddy were all guys that were easy to envision us acquiring. If we deal for Sanheim or Provo, that will be very DA move too.
 
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DA only seems to strike out of nowhere if you rely on JR to point what he will do. If you try to think like he does, his moves are far less unpredictable. ROR, Saad, Buchy, Leddy were all guys that were easy to envision us acquiring. If we deal for Sanheim or Provo, that will be very DA move too.
Basically look at what JR and the national media guys are saying and go in the opposite direction :)
 
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