GDT: 2020 NHL Free Agent Frenzy VI

[CDJ]

Eh he actually inherited a pretty mediocre team and they didn’t start playing well again until they fired Julien. They had some nice pieces but so do most teams.

 

[duffy]

Sweeney is an awful GM. You still didn't tell me what he's done that's so great except win an award. Wonderful. He's had a hole on the 2nd line for a half decade. His drafts have been overall lousy. His free agent signings are uninspired unless of course you're a big fan of Brett Ritchie.

I get it though. Sweeney has fans that believe he is doing a great job. I'm sure that even when the Bruins sign someone off the heap to replace Krug we'll get some mental gymnastics justifying why the move is good.

I don't think you will find one poster on here who thinks DS is doing a great job! He is not the worst GM though, just look at the Leafs and Habs for complete incompetence.

 

[bruinsfan]

He was the AGM for 6 years prior to taking over for PC and before that was the director of player develop as well as hockey operations. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Boston was also the first NHL team to start doing prospect development camps, which was organized by Sweeney.

Honest question here, with his qualifications before he landed GM job with the Bruins, do we think another team would have been scrambling to get him as their GM?

 

[BAD BOY]

He was the AGM for 6 years prior to taking over for PC and before that was the director of player develop as well as hockey operations. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Boston was also the first NHL team to start doing prospect development camps, which was organized by Sweeney.

Correct . I went when they had them in Wilmington a couple of times actually met Sweeney there. Actually saw PC and Neely too. Offices in back of the net at the very end.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Any chance we have the space/assets to make a gaudreau + hanifin deal work for both sides?

From boston:
Debrusk
Bjork
Kuraly
Moore
Vaak
2021 conditional 1st?

Doubt it.

In that list alone Debrusk and the 1st are the two most valuable pieces imo.

Not sure why they would downgrade on both LW and D just to pick up spare parts.

 

[Smitty93]

Do you think he fits with Krejci on the 2nd line?

To be completely honest, I have no idea. Granlund is mainly a playmaker, like Krejci. He does shoot a bit more often, but he scores about the same number of goals.

I've just always enjoyed watching him play and I think he adds a level of skill that's lacking on this team.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

Everyone keeps talking D men.

team has plenty of kids to play

team needs shooting help

Just one D man. Problem is they go out and sign a guy who today says he is unfit to play. He has not played in a year and had major work on his knees and a shoulder that throws out everytime he fights. The kids to me are better but not ready for a top pairing, that is what they need, just One.

Zboril and Lauzon are ready to be full timers. Go with them on the bottom pairing, better then Miller screening the goalie and icing the puck as a breakout. We have Mac and he needs a legit top partner, kids have to get into games at the NHL level to get there. Lauzon and Zboril will learn nothing in the AHL anymore, play them or trade them. Vaak needs one more year in the AHL to get some beef on him.

 

[Fatmancryin]

Honest question here, with his qualifications before he landed GM job with the Bruins, do we think another team would have been scrambling to get him as their GM?

Hell NO!!

 

[ON3M4N]

Honest question here, with his qualifications before he landed GM job with the Bruins, do we think another team would have been scrambling to get him as their GM?

No idea, someone with inside info may know if teams had asked Boston about interviewing Sweeney for a GM role.

 

[chrisab123]

Marchand & Bergeron extension
Traded for Coyle
Drafted McAvoy, Carlo, DeBrusk
Signed Halak

^Just to name a few for you.

I acknowledged McAvoy. DeBrusk hasn't shown much. He's promising but he's probably more of a 3rd liner. The extensions I'll give him.

So in 5 years the only positive moves I can think of are Coyle, Marchand, Bergeron, McAvoy, Halak, and Carlo.

Those few are probably the only notable ones. I'm not going to hold Nash against him either because I think everyone was on board with that.

But do you notice something with your examples? None of those players inject any type of production on the 2nd line. You wasted Krecji's entire extension because of an inability to replace Horton and Lucic.

 

[bruins repeat time]

Honest question here, with his qualifications before he landed GM job with the Bruins, do we think another team would have been scrambling to get him as their GM?

Possibly ; good chance no but that doesn't really matter. I doubt teams were all after Sullivan before he walked away with two cups . I doubt the world wanted Rick Bowness as their head coach and he sniffed the final. It is all about the job you do and if Sweeney was let go today he would have a job very fast . He did win gm of the yr already lol

 

[ON3M4N]

I don't think you will find one poster on here who thinks DS is doing a great job! He is not the worst GM though, just look at the Leafs and Habs for complete incompetence.

This, all of this. Has Sweeney done a "great job" no. Has he been awful, also no. He's had his good and bad moments just like any other GM.

 

[BAD BOY]

He was the AGM for 6 years prior to taking over for PC and before that was the director of player develop as well as hockey operations. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Boston was also the first NHL team to start doing prospect development camps, which was organized by Sweeney.

Sweeney actually ran the workouts I was there I had a great seat . Two different times for the workout AM/PM .. just not sure what this is all about signing players

 

[ON3M4N]

I acknowledged McAvoy. DeBrusk hasn't shown much. He's promising but he's probably more of a 3rd liner. The extensions I'll give him.

So in 5 years the only positive moves I can think of are Coyle, Marchand, Bergeron, McAvoy, Halak, and Carlo.

Those few are probably the only notable ones. I'm not going to hold Nash against him either because I think everyone was on board with that.

But do you notice something with your examples? None of those players inject any type of production on the 2nd line. You wasted Krecji's entire extension because of an inability to replace Horton and Lucic.

DeBrusk since entering the league is a top 20 goal scorer at 5v5, but ya he hasn't shown much. Honestly the deeper you go into this, the more you look like you have no idea what your talking about.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

15 year career in the NHL.

Director of Player Development.

Director of Hockey Operations.

6 years as Assistant General Manager.

Let’s take a look at all of the wonderful things that have gone down under his watch, shall we?

-Passed on 2 slam-dunk studs in a GENERATIONAL DRAFT in favor of reaches that have resulted in a bust (Senyshyn) and an inconsistent 2nd-3rd line tweener (DeBrusk)
-Traded Dougie Hamilton for Senyshyn and Lauzon
-Not trading Eriksson during 2015 draft weekend to make more room to keep Hamilton
-Beleskey contract
-Trading Reilly Smith for Jimmy Hayes
-Not flipping Eriksson at the 2016 deadline
-Mismanaged draft pick in Trent Frederic, who was a 2nd-3rd rounder
-Backes contract, and squandering the 2020 1st just to get rid of him
-Moore contract
-Ritchie acquisition
-Going 3 (soon to be 4) straight seasons with a huge hole on the 2nd line
-Beecher reach in 2019 and mismanaged draft picks in 2020 when he could’ve traded down

Sweeney has completely squandered the championship window for this core because of the idiotic decisions he has made and signed off on. Fire his ass. NOW. Get rid of Neely, too. Bring in outsiders who won’t be another Old Boys Club.

 

[CDJ]

Honest question here, with his qualifications before he landed GM job with the Bruins, do we think another team would have been scrambling to get him as their GM?

probably at some point yes. He was a Harvard grad who was pretty highly regarded and was the assistant GM of a team that had recently made two cups. Plus he was highly regarded in re: to player development.


Just because you don’t like the guy doesn’t mean you can go back and re-write history for him.

 

[chrisab123]

Eh he actually inherited a pretty mediocre team and they didn’t start playing well again until they fired Julien. They had some nice pieces but so do most teams.

The core was there though. The NMC's that Chia gave out were crippling. I don't hold that against him. What he is supposed to do as a GM is to find high-level talent. He drafted McAvoy. That's good. You want to build through the draft and ideally sign those players so you don't have to sign guys like Kevan Miller or Chris Wagner to ridiculous contracts. Not saying one of those deals would be back-breaking by any means but if you sign enough of those people to deals then add the contracts of someone like Nick Ritchie then it piles up.

 

[arider1990]

DeBrusk since entering the league is a top 20 goal scorer at 5v5, but ya he hasn't shown much. Honestly the deeper you go into this, the more you look like you have no idea what your talking about.

You also forgot a huge thing Sweeney did and that is the Pasta extension which looks like the biggest discount in the league.

 

[1dreamof1cup]

Marchand & Pasta extension
Traded for Coyle
Drafted McAvoy, Carlo, DeBrusk
Signed Halak

^Just to name a few for you.

He's made wayyy more bad moves than good one. It's not even close. Anyway, are there any good undrafted player to look forward too next draft?

 

[JerseyBruin]

From the little I've seen of Hoffman.. He seems to be a smart winger. One I would think that Krejci could give and go with.

Hoffman-Krejci-Smith (the shooter)
JDB (the shooter) - Coyle - Kase

That becomes a verrrry slow line that will get exploited defensively by top lines in the playoffs - just like TB did this playoffs,

 

[wintersej]

Easy pass on Grandlund. He has been horrible last 3 years.

We need a goal scorer not a reclamation project.

Tell me how he has been horrible. His assist numbers were down just this year on a disappointing Nashville team.

 

[Fatmancryin]

probably at some point yes. He was a Harvard grad who was pretty highly regarded and was the assistant GM of a team that had recently made two cups. Plus he was highly regarded in re: to player development.


Just because you don’t like the guy doesn’t mean you can go back and re-write history for him.

He was interviewed by the Capitals in 2014

 

[BAD BOY]

Let’s focus on what good players are out there and do they have a punchers chance in signing

 

[chrisab123]

DeBrusk since entering the league is a top 20 goal scorer at 5v5, but ya he hasn't shown much. Honestly the deeper you go into this, the more you look like you have no idea what your talking about.

He hasn't. His totals are 16 27 and 19. Is that a 2nd liner? He's a 3rd liner.

 

[MattFromFranklin]

Marchand & Pasta extension
Traded for Coyle
Drafted McAvoy, Carlo, DeBrusk
Signed Halak

^Just to name a few for you.

I wouldn’t put drafting DeBrusk as a highlight. DeBrusk was a big reach in a GENERATIONAL DRAFT who has turned into an inconsistent 2nd-3rd line tweener, and picked over Barzal, Connor, and Konecny who were not only superior prospects at the time, but have turned into superior players just 5 years later. Although DeBrusk is a “hit,” it was a bad/mismanaged pick. It’s not Jake’s fault, but he never should’ve been selected with one of those 3 picks.