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Byfield Drysdale Quinn
Just because Brady Byfield Drake 6foot3 scary line
Chabby Drysdale PP1
And Quinn the sniper
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Just because Brady Byfield Drake 6foot3 scary line
Chabby Drysdale PP1
And Quinn the sniper
MatchesMalone
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Really? The NYI pick could easily end up 15th and possibly even as high as 11th if everything goes just about perfect for us. I'm going to wait out till we know where the NYI pick lands before making plans on who to draft with it.
TkachukNorris79
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I don't really see the rationale behind this statement.
Since their hot start in the first 20 games, NYI is averaging 1 point per game (that's just ahead of Ottawa and SJ) , pacing them at 94 points. That won't make the playoffs. They're 8th worst in the league since then in goal differential at -17. They've been a bottom 10 team since November and I have no doubt in my mind that they will continue to show that. Plus 9 games on the road. But I guess they play the games for a reason.
In this case, assuming Laferniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Drysdale, Rossi, Holtz, Perfetti, Lundell and Askarov go top 10, the odds of Ottawa getting Quinn/Sanderson with the NYI pick are pretty good. Zary, Mercer, Mysak, Gunler, Jarvis, Holloway, and Amirov could all be justified being picked from 9-15, in addition to Quinn and Sanderson.
Not sure why you make it seem like a guarantee.
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Alf Silfversson
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That's a tough one.
I'm a huge Ryamond fan and a huge Quinn fan.
At the end of the day I think I'd go Byfield, Drysdale and Quinn.
I think that Quinn is actually closer to Raymond than Sanderson is to Drysdale. I, admittedly, haven't seen much of Sanderson though.
Would be very happy with both packages, TBH.
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I am going to have to say YES to this.
If they take Drysdale, I'll be happy with Quinn .. If they take Raymond I'll be happy with Sanderson
The choice if there is one after already getting Byfield. Who do you take Raymond or Drysdale? I am taking Drysdale there but would definitely not be upset with Raymond.
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What's the over/under on draft picks used to actually draft players in the first two rounds?
My guess would be 5
My guess would be 5
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He's dropping because of a tournament that people love to overrate and somehow being big is a bad thing these days.
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What you say could be true, but it could also be the case that people think that other players in the draft are better/will be better than Byfield at the NHL level, but it is easier to straw man an alternative opinion.
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Alex1234
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Laf was 1.72 ppg last year
Byfield is 1.82 this year at approx same age
He's big
Hes a centerman
How is this a bad take? It's not my opinion that he's dropping, it's fact. He was almost unanimously the #2 pick six months ago, and now he's anywhere between 2nd and fifth, and is most often behind Stutzle at 3. I'm not weighing in on the quality of those mock drafts, I'm simply noting that he's falling.
BondraTime
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Byfield will be going 2nd as he should, I have zero doubt there
bert
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You are trying to understand the love? He was the first overall pick in the OHL draft then won rookie of the year while leading his team to a division win and in scoring in his first season. He is 6'4 215, can fly and has a better ppg than Lafrenier, Rossi and Perfetti did/do as a 17 year olds. He is still the concensus number 2 its just that Stutzle has began to challenge him not because Byfield isnt a good prospect just that Stutzle is very good as well.
He's actually not the consensus #2. There are plenty of mocks that have him anywhere from 2-5. Hell, NHL.com listed him as third a few days ago. I'm not saying that he shouldn't go #2, my guess is as worthless as everyone else's guess on here.
And yes, I am trying to understand the love. Not long ago it wasn't uncommon to see posts on here where it was suggested that he should go ahead of Lafreniere.
The "but he's younger than (insert player here)" didn't work out so well with Tkachuk.
Alf Silfversson
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At the start of the year there was some talk that Byfield MIGHT be able to overtake Laf as the #1 pick. Laf has been lights out so it hasn't happened.
If you can't understand that a 6'4, 215 lb player who can fly and is scoring at a rate similar to Stamkos and Tavares in their draft year is coveted, then I don't think anyone can explain it to you. And he's doing this as one of the youngest players in the draft.
Yes, being younger does play into the equation somewhat. While we're all fans of Brady let's not act like he's the steal of that draft. Younger players like Dahlin and Svechnikov have shown a lot more growth in their games than BT has this year.
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You're kinda getting skewered, but it's a fair question, imo. You're not the first person to remark that QB's perceived value/upside may be higher on these boards than the consensus.
I still have QB as my clear cut #2, so I may be just as guilty as the rest of this board when it comes to (at least slightly) overvaluing him. Given that his main competition is Stuzle who plays in the DEL it may just be that a lot of us haven't seen enough of Stuzle to put him over Byfield honestly. Probably doesn't hurt that he's the prototypical 1C and that's the biggest position of need for this franchise as well.
bert
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Maybe you should watch him and yes he is still the concensus number 2 just because some people dont have him there doesnt mean that majority dont think that.
You're (purposely?) misunderstanding what I am saying. I clearly said "I'm not saying he shouldn't go #2...", so I'm not sure where the condescending tone is coming from.
Regarding BT, you're again misunderstanding what I said. I have no idea how you can gather that I'm insinuating that he's the "steal of the draft" because I pointed out one of this board's most significant rationales for selecting Zadina over him.
Scouting isn't a science, and none of us really know what the hell we're talking about. It constantly amazes me to see the confidence that some people have in their scouting opinions.
The only opportunity I've had to see both players play at the same level was the WJC, and Stutzle looked to be a step ahead. Of course there are significant variables that allowed this to happen. With that said, there are variables that allow Byfield to look to be a step ahead of Stutzle, as you point out.
I'm glad that you're the awthority on what concensus means.
bert
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Only on HF is being big a bad thing now, shows how asinine this place can really be. Yes big players that cant move are no good in this NHL but big players that can skate are going to be even more effective.
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