2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread

[True Blue]

Badly want into the top-4 next year. Byfield, Lundell, Lafrenire, Raymond.

I think that the Rangers are looking at top-10 with a chance to realistically be in that 5-7 range. Trading Kreider or Buch to create space will probably obtain another first rounder. That occurs, and it's the cherry on top to the rebuild. Oh, wait. Sorry. Build.

 

[ElLeetch]

I think that the Rangers are looking at top-10 with a chance to realistically be in that 5-7 range. Trading Kreider or Buch to create space will probably obtain another first rounder. That occurs, and it's the cherry on top to the rebuild. Oh, wait. Sorry. Build.

well, not with Pana on board, i definitely feel we are no longer a bottom-4 finish, and we'd have to have more lotto luck coming out of the bottom 8-10 range again.

 

[True Blue]

well, not with Pana on board, i definitely feel we are no longer a bottom-4 finish, and we'd have to have more lotto luck coming out of the bottom 8-10 range again.

Panarin means little as currently constituted. It is an extreme long shot to believe that Kakko and Kravstov will top the production of Hayes and Zucc. We all hope that the other kids take steps forward and they should , but to expect ALL of them to take massive steps forward is also unrealistic. Then factor in the probable move of Krieder or Buch, the fact that Shattenkirk and Stall will still be manning two spots on D and another year of depreciation on Henke, and you do not really need luck to finish in the 8-10 range.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I think that the Rangers are looking at top-10 with a chance to realistically be in that 5-7 range. Trading Kreider or Buch to create space will probably obtain another first rounder. That occurs, and it's the cherry on top to the rebuild. Oh, wait. Sorry. Build.

With Kakko, Panarin, Trouba, I think that alone puts us closer to a top-10 than top-5.

 

[True Blue]

With Kakko, Panarin, Trouba, I think that alone puts us closer to a top-10 than top-5.

That's fair. I said around 5-7 range. Going with presumption that the Rangers will not get so many looser points this time around.

 

[Gardner McKay]

That's fair. I said around 5-7 range. Going with presumption that the Rangers will not get so many looser points this time around.

Yeah. I guess, what I mean is that I think a pick in the 10-13 range is likely. I don't know that we will be a playoff team but I think we will most certainly be better than we were last year.

 

[mas0764]

So it sounds like you've largely conceded the "resume" part as it's pretty much objectively false that Lafreniere has a better resume.

I have no problem with you thinking Lafreniere is a better prospect. But it certainly isn't on something objective like a resume. The idea that Lafreniere has a better resume is just objectively false.

I think the entire idea of what constitutes a "better resume" is probably subjective from the start, but of course I only took it to mean "it was his opinion" when he said it.

Not sure how either of your opinions can be "objectively false."

 

[Ghost of jas]

Yeah. I guess, what I mean is that I think a pick in the 10-13 range is likely. I don't know that we will be a playoff team but I think we will most certainly be better than we were last year.

I’m seeing the Rangers between 6 and 9

 

[Ghost of jas]

And @Joey Bones and @Mac n Gs, I’m still waiting on my Cole Perfetti scouting report. @GeorgeKaplan and @Trxjw, you guys can chime in, too.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I think the entire idea of what constitutes a "better resume" is probably subjective from the start, but of course I only took it to mean "it was his opinion" when he said it.

Not sure how either of your opinions can be "objectively false."

A resume is a resume. The only resume bit that could be not in the favor of Hughes are QMJHL stats from this past year. But with the similar ages of the two and the international results of both, I think it's a pretty objective statement that Hughes's resume is definitively better. Unless one is adding puffery to the other resume, that is.

 

[n8]

I noticed that Oleg Zaitsev who I thought looked terrible but still appeared on several prospect ranking lists (one had him in the 2nd round) went undrafted. That kid has his work cut out for him this season.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

And @Joey Bones and @Mac n Gs, I’m still waiting on my Cole Perfetti scouting report. @GeorgeKaplan and @Trxjw, you guys can chime in, too.

I don’t really have all that much to say, I’ve only really watched some highlight videos, but what stands out to me from them is that he’s really really good at using other players as a screen when he shoots

 

[Ghost of jas]

I don’t really have all that much to say, I’ve only really watched some highlight videos, but what stands out to me from them is that he’s really really good at using other players as a screen when he shoots

Thanks...judging by the highlights, he looks elusive and handles the puck well. He seems to hide his shot well, also.

 

[Joey Bones]

And @Joey Bones and @Mac n Gs, I’m still waiting on my Cole Perfetti scouting report. @GeorgeKaplan and @Trxjw, you guys can chime in, too.

Perfetti has amazing hands and one-on-one skill. I agree with @GeorgeKaplan that he uses the defenders as a screen for a majority of his moves. Has very good vision and sees the ice well for a pass. Has a tremendous shot and is extremely dangerous with the puck on his stick. Can snipe like a pro!! Doesn't need to make a whole lot of space to be effective. I have him as a top 5 talent, right now and can challenge Lafreniere for No. 1.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Perfetti has amazing hands and one-on-one skill. I agree with @GeorgeKaplan that he uses the defenders as a screen for a majority of his moves. Has very good vision and sees the ice well for a pass. Has a tremendous shot and is extremely dangerous with the puck on his stick. Can snipe like a pro!! Doesn't need to make a whole lot of space to be effective. I have him as a top 5 talent, right now and can challenge Lafreniere for No. 1.

Thank you and dammit...he’s become my 2020 prospect that I’m keeping an eye on. Do you see him as a center or a wing?

 

[Lays]

1. Alexis Lafreniere
2. Lucas Raymond
3. Quinton Byfield
4. Noel Gunler
5. Cole Perfetti
6. Anton Lundell
7. Marco Rossi
8. Jan Mysak
9. Alexander Holtz
10. Justin Barron
11. Jeremie Poirier
12. Hendrix Lapierre
13. Dylan Holloway
14. Jean-Luc Foudy
15. Jamie Drysdale
16. Theo Rochette
17. Dawson Mercer
18. Connor Zary
19. Jacob Perreault
20. Roni Hirvonen
21. Mavrik Bourque
22. Daniil Guschin
23. Jaromir Pytlik
24. Antonio Stranges
25. Zion Nybeck
26. Dylan Peterson
27. Braden Schneider
28. Ryder Rolston
29. Kasper Simontaival
30. Helge Grans
31. Ty Smilanic

Here is my 2020 top 31. I haven’t seen some guys yet like Stutzle, Andrae, Guhle, and McLennon. I don’t usually rank goalies but Askarov would be top 10. Strong draft for the Q and Sweden. Weak year for the US

 

[Joey Bones]

Thank you and dammit...he’s become my 2020 prospect that I’m keeping an eye on. Do you see him as a center or a wing?

Center, for sure!!

 

[Ghost of jas]

Center, for sure!!

So, Cole Perfetti is now who I want in next year's draft...seems to be a player in the Matt Duchene mold.

 

[Lays]

So, Cole Perfetti is now who I want in next year's draft...seems to be a player in the Matt Duchene mold.

Duchene is a much better skater though, Perfetti’s main weakness is his skating. Perfetti’s also more of a goal scorer

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Bluenote13]

Nybeck, not Nyneck lol

And I agree, very intrigued by Nybeck, he looked great this year.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Anyone have any thoughts on Jan Mysak?

 

[Ola]

That's fair. I said around 5-7 range. Going with presumption that the Rangers will not get so many looser points this time around.

Everyone understand that this thinking is flawed right??? Lol

Just as we had few ROW we also had very few ROLs, like 22nd in the league. If anything the assumption close at hand is that we were better than our record show since we played many close games.

 

[Leetch3]

Nybeck, not Nyneck lol

And I agree, very intrigued by Nybeck, he looked great this year.

I thought it was more noteworthy that raymond and holtz are skipping the hlinka to play for the U20 team instead of U18

 

[Joey Bones]

Duchene is a much better skater though, Perfetti’s main weakness is his skating. Perfetti’s also more of a goal scorer

I would say the same, but I think this coming season will show progress in that department!!