2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part II

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From what I’ve heard, Sanderson is the likely pick. I’d be very happy with that. Said earlier they really like Andrae too. I’d be very surprised if our first pick was a forward. Have no idea what they do with the 2nd first pick but I believe they added it in case a trade pops up and they wanted to clear Skjei’s salary before everyone realized he isn’t a promising young D anymore. Would love Dawson Mercer/Connor Zary if we don’t go D. With the 2nd first pick, if we make the pick it’ll be for someone who projects to be a great 3rd liner. Off the top of my head, someone like Jake Neighbours.

Can anyone tell me more about the top D in this class? Drysdale I don’t care for as there’s no way he’s a Ranger. Sanderson I already know a lot of, incredible stick work defensively and a very good skater. After that I really like Alex? Nikishin who’s like Zadorov. I’m not too sure how the order is for the next 5 or so Dmen bc I haven’t been keeping up with this class. If anyone wants to tell me more about good targets for the 2nd pick I’m willing to listen as well. Need to start catching up

Seem to be new on the boards, so welcome aboard and thanks for your insight!!

Nikishin is okay, he's played a fair amount of KHL games this year, but not much else. Still a ways to go. Don't think the offense is there, yet at least. Needs to work on the defensive game a little more. Definitely encouraging he's playing in the KHL/VHL as a 1st year eligible.

First I'm hearing of them liking Andrae, you have a source or link that shares this? Please let us know. I like the player, but I wouldn't snag him in the 1st round and think he'll end up going in the 2nd, where the Rangers don't have a pick, currently.

There have been rumors of them being the team that's incredibly high on Sanderson (hints from Bob McKenzie and such), to much dislike by many on here. But if they feel he is the best at their first pick, it's hard not to fault them. Only time will tell on development.

I think NYR should go center at their first pick, if they could grab one of the many high potential ones that's slated to go early. There is a lack of depth at that position and with the flourish of defense in the system it certainly doesn't hurt to add forwards. They'll be competing soon so they need depth at all positions. Defense and goaltending is looking good.

As for the top defenders, Drysdale is the best by far and could go top 5. Schneider is the next best, IMO, followed by Niemela. Both I think could go mid-late teens. After that is a cluster of Sanderson, Viro, Kuznetsov, Mukhamadullin, Wallinder. The rest can go anywhere, even that cluster could fall or rise, depending.

I think good targets for the 2nd pick, depends on how the rest of the draft plays out. Mysak is one I hope they gamble on. There is also Schneider and the German forwards Reichel/Peterka. Jarvis is a good get, too. Depending where Gunler ends up he would be the best option, but there is an obvious amount of questions on his off-ice demeanor and play with others.
 
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Craig Button's list is... Interesting to be polite. But based on his rankings, I decided to do a quick mock with a friend of mine who follows major juniors closely. @Joey Bones thoughts?

13: Alexander Holtz (Djurgården-SHL)
23: Noel Gunler (Luleå-SHL)
75: Jean-Luc Foudy (Windsor-OHL)
84: Jack Thompson (Sudbury-OHL)
106: Adam Raska (Rimouski-QMJHL)
137: Cade McNelly (Seattle-WHL)
168: Kristian Tanus (LeKi-Mestis)
199: Jérémie Biakabutuka (Val-d'Or-QMJHL)
203: Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (Chicago-USHL)
204: Nils Nordh (Mora-Allsvenskan)
 
Seem to be new on the boards, so welcome aboard and thanks for your insight!!

Nikishin is okay, he's played a fair amount of KHL games this year, but not much else. Still a ways to go. Don't think the offense is there, yet at least. Needs to work on the defensive game a little more. Definitely encouraging he's playing in the KHL/VHL as a 1st year eligible.

First I'm hearing of them liking Andrae, you have a source or link that shares this? Please let us know. I like the player, but I wouldn't snag him in the 1st round and think he'll end up going in the 2nd, where the Rangers don't have a pick, currently.

There have been rumors of them being the team that's incredibly high on Sanderson (hints from Bob McKenzie and such), to much dislike by many on here. But if they feel he is the best at their first pick, it's hard not to fault them. Only time will tell on development.

I think NYR should go center at their first pick, if they could grab one of the many high potential ones that's slated to go early. There is a lack of depth at that position and with the flourish of defense in the system it certainly doesn't hurt to add forwards. They'll be competing soon so they need depth at all positions. Defense and goaltending is looking good.

As for the top defenders, Drysdale is the best by far and could go top 5. Schneider is the next best, IMO, followed by Niemela. Both I think could go mid-late teens. After that is a cluster of Sanderson, Viro, Kuznetsov, Mukhamadullin, Wallinder. The rest can go anywhere, even that cluster could fall or rise, depending.

I think good targets for the 2nd pick, depends on how the rest of the draft plays out. Mysak is one I hope they gamble on. There is also Schneider and the German forwards Reichel/Peterka. Jarvis is a good get, too. Depending where Gunler ends up he would be the best option, but there is an obvious amount of questions on his off-ice demeanor and play with others.
I’ve had a source confirm that. They have scouted him and Sanderson heavily is all I got. I was a lurker last draft but my source told me they had Karl Henriksson in the 20’s and they were close to packaging Vesey+2nd? for a higher 2nd to ensure we got Henriksson. (and that the Rangers didn’t like anyone at 20 but would’ve been a defenseman if they made the pick, my guess is Bjornfot from knowing what the Rangers value.) If you search through my post history and see my first/second post, I posted that I was connected and dropped a few things along with some of my own thoughts for a very long opening post. Can anyone differentiate Wallinder/Viro/Andrae/Niemela? I get them all confused with each other. I know Wallinder is Broberg-lite but that’s about it
 
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Craig Button's list is... Interesting to be polite. But based on his rankings, I decided to do a quick mock with a friend of mine who follows major juniors closely. @Joey Bones thoughts?

13: Alexander Holtz (Djurgården-SHL)
23: Noel Gunler (Luleå-SHL)
75: Jean-Luc Foudy (Windsor-OHL)
84: Jack Thompson (Sudbury-OHL)
106: Adam Raska (Rimouski-QMJHL)
137: Cade McNelly (Seattle-WHL)
168: Kristian Tanus (LeKi-Mestis)
199: Jérémie Biakabutuka (Val-d'Or-QMJHL)
203: Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (Chicago-USHL)
204: Nils Nordh (Mora-Allsvenskan)

Well, Holtz is a great pick at No. 13, but I doubt he falls that far. I would absolutely take the gamble on Gunler in the late 1st round, as well. Foudy is okay, not a big fan. Like someone mentioned before (that I agree with), he has the tools, but IQ is something that isn't fully accustomed. I would take him in the 3rd, though. Not so sure about Thompson, either. With how good Sudbury was, you'd think he'd have more to be involved with. For a 3rd round pick, might be a reach for me. Raska is a good gamble with their 4th. Plays hard hockey and could chip in offensively. Next Fast maybe? Skip McNelly, no draft for me. I honestly thought Tanus was drafted already, but yes I would take the gamble with their 6th. I think Biakabutuka is going to be a late bloomer, so yes I would take him in the 7th and maybe a little sooner. I, also, think Fontaine is a late bloomer, too, and is headed to Northeastern next year. A great program for a player of his skill-set, IMO. Love the name, hope he can grow a sick flow!! I'll be honest, don't know anything about Nordh so a little homework might be necessary.
 
I would guess that Jack Quinn jumping all the way up to #6 on Craig Button’s list pretty much indicates any chance of him falling to us is moot.

Button's ranking 1 year ago today:

3. Podkolzin
7. Boldy
12. Nikolayev
15. Dach
18. Lavoie
29. M. Robertson
30. Seider

Button's list should never be an indication of who will be available when you're on the clock
 
Jack Quinn in the top 10 is a horrendous pick so I'll gladly have some other team jump on that grenade so a better player falls to the Rangers

Quinn over Rossi should be a fireable offense for any team drafting in the top 10. Holtz available at 13 and Lundell at 16 are steals at those spots
 
As for the top defenders, Drysdale is the best by far and could go top 5. Schneider is the next best, IMO, followed by Niemela. Both I think could go mid-late teens. After that is a cluster of Sanderson, Viro, Kuznetsov, Mukhamadullin, Wallinder. The rest can go anywhere, even that cluster could fall or rise, depending.

I think good targets for the 2nd pick, depends on how the rest of the draft plays out. Mysak is one I hope they gamble on. There is also Schneider and the German forwards Reichel/Peterka. Jarvis is a good get, too. Depending where Gunler ends up he would be the best option, but there is an obvious amount of questions on his off-ice demeanor and play with others.
Debateable if Schneider goes ahead of Sanderson. I would not mind if either was a Ranger. And agreed with Mysak.
 
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Button's reasoning is so flawed, man.

"Quinn reminds me of Pastrnak, Rossi reminds me of Backstrom so Quinn is better" :laugh:

Never understood Button's reasoning towards everything. It's obvious when watching the games that Quinn (and most of the 67's team) is led by Rossi.

For context, Quinn (though up and down) primarily played on a line with Rossi and were on the PP together all season long. Rossi averaged OVER 2 PPG THIS SEASON!!!!!!!

It's obvious that Quinn's totals took an immaculate spike upwards...
 
Never understood Button's reasoning towards everything. It's obvious when watching the games that Quinn (and most of the 67's team) is led by Rossi.

For context, Quinn (though up and down) primarily played on a line with Rossi and were on the PP together all season long. Rossi averaged OVER 2 PPG THIS SEASON!!!!!!!

It's obvious that Quinn's totals took an immaculate spike upwards...

Quinn is just Rossi's Gropp
 
Debateable if Schneider goes ahead of Sanderson. I would not mind if either was a Ranger. And agreed with Mysak.

I could make an argument to see Schneider as the next best. Think Schneider has the better capability of being a two-way guy, than Sanderson. Schneider is good at practically everything. Good vision for outlet passes, goes up the rush, shoots to score, good positioning defensively, can lay a hip in occasionally and is aggressive on all sides of the puck/body. I see his offensive skill used more in today's NHL than Sanderson with his defensive game solid, as well.

With that said, I think Sanderson is going to be more defensively oriented than most think. I don't think his offense will be there in pros, but Sanderson is kind of like a lesser-Trouba in a sense. Defensive side of the puck he's great; long reach to break up plays, is aggressive along the boards, lays the body and has great edge-work and doesn't lose his balance easily. Big and strong, too. He'll occasionally come up the rush, sometimes going end-to-end, but would look to pass before shooting. That would annoy the f*** out of me, especially when this Rangers team already has too many pass-first guys. I do think his possession game is stronger than Schneider's, though, and his vision is good, too. Sometimes gets lost behind the net, though.

I currently have Schneider ahead of Sanderson, ATM, because of the offensive scoring that Schneider brings and two-way potential for today's game. Think the only thing Sanderson has over Schneider right now is the possession game. Keep in mind, though, I'd be happy if NYR selected either or both of them. They both look like good picks, depending where they are selected.
 
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^ With what I said above, I don't think this is a strong group of USNTDP. Haven't seen a weak group come out of the draft in a while, TBH...
 
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From what I’ve heard, Sanderson is the likely pick. I’d be very happy with that. Said earlier they really like Andrae too. I’d be very surprised if our first pick was a forward. Have no idea what they do with the 2nd first pick but I believe they added it in case a trade pops up and they wanted to clear Skjei’s salary before everyone realized he isn’t a promising young D anymore. Would love Dawson Mercer/Connor Zary if we don’t go D. With the 2nd first pick, if we make the pick it’ll be for someone who projects to be a great 3rd liner. Off the top of my head, someone like Jake Neighbours.

Can anyone tell me more about the top D in this class? Drysdale I don’t care for as there’s no way he’s a Ranger. Sanderson I already know a lot of, incredible stick work defensively and a very good skater. After that I really like Alex? Nikishin who’s like Zadorov. I’m not too sure how the order is for the next 5 or so Dmen bc I haven’t been keeping up with this class. If anyone wants to tell me more about good targets for the 2nd pick I’m willing to listen as well. Need to start catching up

Cool, I like Emil Andrae a lot too. Had Henriksson higher than most last season and I am not surprised if the same guys like Andrae too. Very mobile, skilled offensively. Plays with a lot of intensity, a bit chippy. Somewhat comparable to Brannstrom. A Hughes.
 
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