Rumor: 2020-21 Trade Rumours and FA Part VIII: Intra-Playoff Edition?

[dahrougem2]

That was an epic set up and you’d think a millionaire like Whitney would have a garage.

Yeah, this is why they completely sealed off the Oilers' new walkway from the room to the ice lmao.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah, this is why they completely sealed off the Oilers' new walkway from the room to the ice lmao.

Honestly what did they think would happen? Edmonton fans would never boo and harass them if given an opportunity to vent from ten feet away after a bad loss?

They're lucky no players lost their cool and got into an altercation. Shitty thing to subject your team to though.

 

[dahrougem2]

Honestly what did they think would happen? Edmonton fans would never boo and harass them if given an opportunity to vent from ten feet away after a bad loss?

They're lucky no players lost their cool and got into an altercation. Shitty thing to subject your team to though.

Pros and cons, I guess. During the 2006 cup run that walkway was electric and after wins it'd be even more electric. After losses the fans would be there cheering the team on trying to lift their spirits.

Then the Oilers started to really suck and the fans turned on the team, but to me that was more the fans letting management know how they felt instead of letting the players know "this is your fault."

 

[Hasbro]

I peg JTC’s negative value at about a 3rd. Anything over that I say just buy him out.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

I peg JTC’s negative value at about a 3rd. Anything over that I say just buy him out.

We can always say he has as many goals as McDavid/Matthews and more than Marner in the post season. .

 

[Hasbro]

We can always say he has as many goals as McDavid/Matthews and more than Marner in the post season. .

He's been playing better. Maybe he can get his value up to nothing.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

He's been playing better. Maybe he can get his value up to nothing.

No way....7th or bust!!

 

[shadow1]

Grubauer has been really good and should be re-signed but the Avs team defense is also among the best in the league. So if there's a bidding war then I think the Avs could still be okay with one of the inferior options. Someone like Andersen in free agency or maybe Elvis.

I wonder if Colorado goes back to the Washington well with Samsonov possibly on the outs.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

I wonder if Colorado goes back to the Washington well with Samsonov possibly on the outs.

Could be...I've heard others list him among the possibilities if we have to let Grubi walk.

 

[Pokecheque]

I wonder if Colorado goes back to the Washington well with Samsonov possibly on the outs.

Oh good heavens there is no way Samsonov has already played his way outta town. If he has the Caps deserve to crash and burn even harder than they eventually will the next couple of years.

 

[Hasbro]

Oh good heavens there is no way Samsonov has already played his way outta town. If he has the Caps deserve to crash and burn even harder than they eventually will the next couple of years.

Be interesting to see if they protect him or Vanek.

 

[Chiarelli]

Samsonov would be a clear downgrade on Grubs at current time.

 

[dahrougem2]

Samsonov would be a clear downgrade on Grubs at current time.

For sure, but Grubauer was also a clear downgrade from what we had in Varlamov.

Not saying it'll happen but he's also still 24 years old.

 

[redacted]

For sure, but Grubauer was also a clear downgrade from what we had in Varlamov.

Not saying it'll happen but he's also still 24 years old.

I don't agree with that at all. Varly had one good year in his last 4 with the Avs and was frequently injured. The year Grubi and Varly were together, Grubi was better and stole the job from Varly. Grubi wasn't (and isn't) better than Varly's peak, but injuries and time wore on Varly. He was and is much better than the current Varly.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

I wonder what the Islanders do with Sorokin. Will he command a lot?

 

[redacted]

I wonder what the Islanders do with Sorokin. Will he command a lot?

He's their long-term starter and they'd be wise to get him into a long-term deal now... but Lou will likely only go for ~4 years.

 

[Richard88]

He's their long-term starter and they'd be wise to get him into a long-term deal now... but Lou will likely only go for ~4 years.

Do you think Boston would consider moving one of their young goalies, Swayman or Vladar, and if so would they be viable options for the Avs?

 

[redacted]

Do you think Boston would consider moving one of their young goalies, Swayman or Vladar, and if so would they be viable options for the Avs?

Unlikely until they know who is the heir apparent to Rask.

 

[shadow1]

Oh good heavens there is no way Samsonov has already played his way outta town. If he has the Caps deserve to crash and burn even harder than they eventually will the next couple of years.

I think it would be a mistake to trade him, but he seems to be on the outs with the team. He had a rough season both on and off the ice, and both he (age 24) and Vanacek (age 25) are expansion eligible.

 

[redacted]

I think it would be a mistake to trade him, but he seems to be on the outs with the team. He had a rough season both on and off the ice, and both he (age 24) and Vanacek (age 25) are expansion eligible.

Samsonov might have had a rough year, but there is an extreme talent difference between the them and Washington knows that.

 

[shadow1]

Samsonov might have had a rough year, but there is an extreme talent difference between the them and Washington knows that.

I hate to go back 10 years, but it's reminiscent of when they traded Varlamov (who was younger than Samsonov is now, and had a better resume) and went with Neuvirth as the starter (and later Holtby).

What you're saying is absolutely correct but I think there's at least a decent chance they move on from Samsonov.

 

[Pokecheque]

I hate to go back 10 years, but it's reminiscent of when they traded Varlamov (who was younger than Samsonov is now, and had a better resume) and went with Neuvirth as the starter (and later Holtby).

What you're saying is absolutely correct but I think there's at least a decent chance they move on from Samsonov.

I think that's a little different though. Washington if I'm not mistaken had a young Braden Holtby in the fold at that time, and the relationship between Varly and the Caps had frayed to the point that he was ready to head back to Russia if they didn't deal him. I just don't see the breakdown reaching those levels, no matter how bad things got behind the scenes, after parts of two seasons with Washington.

 

[redacted]

I hate to go back 10 years, but it's reminiscent of when they traded Varlamov (who was younger than Samsonov is now, and had a better resume) and went with Neuvirth as the starter (and later Holtby).

What you're saying is absolutely correct but I think there's at least a decent chance they move on from Samsonov.

I think that's a little different though. Washington if I'm not mistaken had a young Braden Holtby in the fold at that time, and the relationship between Varly and the Caps had frayed to the point that he was ready to head back to Russia if they didn't deal him. I just don't see the breakdown reaching those levels, no matter how bad things got behind the scenes, after parts of two seasons with Washington.

Yeah the situations are apples and oranges. Varly was prepared to sign with Loko until the Caps traded him. Varly was oft injured for years prior. The Avs were a terrible team the previous year and offered up an unprotected first. Holtby was the best of the prospects and dominated the AHL. Neuvirth had taken the starting job from Varly and hadn't had his own injury issues. Vokoun was available and a deal was being negotiated for him to be their starter while Holtby got more seasoning.

I can see Washington moving on from Samsonov just to clear the air, but it wouldn't be choosing Vanecek as their starter. They'd be getting another starter instead. I don't see the Caps going this route simply because of the cap though. They need as cheap of goaltending as possible until they can clear cap.

 

[Iceberg]

They can trade us Samsonov and reunite with Grubauer.

A win-win situation, apparently.

 

[dahrougem2]

I don't agree with that at all. Varly had one good year in his last 4 with the Avs and was frequently injured. The year Grubi and Varly were together, Grubi was better and stole the job from Varly. Grubi wasn't (and isn't) better than Varly's peak, but injuries and time wore on Varly. He was and is much better than the current Varly.

I don't know how you can say that. Outside of 16-17 disaster, Varlamov was great for us. Arguably the only reason we were respectable as a team. Grubauer came in as a backup, so to me he was a clear downgrade to start from Varlamov.