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Speculation: 2020-21 News/Rumors/Roster Thread Part IV

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You'd have to be on cocaine to not make a play for Dahlin hard. He'd easily put the Kings on the map. So many prospects we're praying for turn out into solid NHLers. I'd rather not take the chance and give up our likely top 9-13 draft spot this year for Dahlin with one of the prospects wrapped up with it. You're not gonna get a Dahlin with that kind of a pick anyways, and kings have an abundance at forward. I'm down.

Plus it'd get MacD out of the line up.

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Sol said:
You'd have to be on cocaine to not make a play for Dahlin hard. He'd easily put the Kings on the map. So many prospects we're praying for turn out into solid NHLers. I'd rather not take the chance and give up our likely top 9-13 draft spot this year for Dahlin with one of the prospects wrapped up with it. You're not gonna get a Dahlin with that kind of a pick anyways, and kings have an abundance at forward. I'm down.

Plus it'd get MacD out of the line up.

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Dahlin and Doughty would be a major force together. Dominant I imagine. And below with Bjornfot Anderson on the left. Then the right with Roy and Walker while Faber and Grans are developing. Thats a strong defense for the foreseeable future.
 
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AzKing said:
It would be surprising to say the least if L.A. makes a massive trade like this before the end of the season. A trade of this magnitude if it would require multiple top prospects and the first can literally change the trajectory of the franchise with no guarantee that it would be a better trajectory than what they are currently on.
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While true, consider the fact the Kings have an abundance at forward, and zero established Dmen other than Doughty and the rest of the D core is hope based that they will pan out. It will change the trajectory, but for the circumstances at hand, Id think it'd easily be for the better.
 
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Sol said:
While true, consider the fact the Kings have an abundance at forward, and zero established Dmen other than Doughty and the rest of the D core is hope based that they will pan out. It will change the trajectory, but for the circumstances at hand, Id think it'd easily be for the better.
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I do feel that you have to give up something in order to get anything of value. I can live with moving Turcotte although I think he is a Mike Richards type of player. Kupari is another guy that I can live with moving in the package. The first would be a lot especially if it's top 5-10. That said, if it allows us to keep Kaliyev and Byfield plus get Dahlin then it would be hard to turn that down.

Now if they could get away with moving a tier two player and both 2nd's while keeping the first then that would be even better.

On the Buffalo side, it would be more than fair to see:

Turcotte
Kupari
Strand or someone along that tier
2 2nd rounds picks
 
I don’t see the Kings doing anything major this season or this offseason.

If the team plays well and is hanging around the 4/5 spot by the trade deadline, we may see a small move to bring in a depth player who costs very little to acquire. Similar to a Freddy Modin trade.

If they fall back of the playoff race, then guys like AA22 will get dealt for scraps. And in the offseason, I think they wait for the expansion draft and then do one move with a free agent that is a slight upgrade at LD.

Otherwise, they’ll resign Iafallo and Roy, let Amadio and Luff walk, with the plan to replace those spots with a prospect from the Reign like Kupari and a Thomas or Fagemo. Basically I’m expecting the same roster, minus minor changes.
 
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DoktorJeep said:
I don’t see the Kings doing anything major this season or this offseason.

If the team plays well and is hanging around the 4/5 spot by the trade deadline, we may see a small move to bring in a depth player who costs very little to acquire. Similar to a Freddy Modin trade.

If they fall back of the playoff race, then guys like AA22 will get dealt for scraps. And in the offseason, I think they wait for the expansion draft and then do one move with a free agent that is a slight upgrade at LD.

Otherwise, they’ll resign Iafallo and Roy, let Amadio and Luff walk, with the plan to replace those spots with a prospect from the Reign like Kupari and a Thomas or Fagemo. Basically I’m expecting the same roster, minus minor changes.
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I think youre right but its ok to discuss a big name trade. Especially since its the media starting the smoke and not kings fans pipe dreaming on the boards.
 
Some people need to take a step back and try to apply some logic here. Put yourself in Buffalo's position. Why am I going to trade a 20-year-old defenseman who scored 84 points in his first two seasons? Because he's struggling this season under a coach who is likely going to get axed and playing in front of unstable goaltending?

I guess rationale thought should be thrown out the window in these masturbatory dream scenarios.
 
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I would do Turcotte, Kupari, and our 1st. Trading Turcotte would still leave us with Byfield and Vilardi, which gives us three solid Cs for a while with Kopitar in the mix to. Kupari has skill, but his ceiling is really as a solid 3C, which we have covered with Byfield/Vilardi/Kopitar (along with others). The 1st is not a big deal for me, because whoever we draft won't be NHL ready for another 2-3 years and is going to be an uncertain.

I would be more concerned about including Kaliyev in any package because we don't have any sniper wingers in the pipeline.
 
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its interesting how people are willing to send Turcotte packing but are hesitant to trade a top 5 pick. Turcotte is a top 5 pick + a couple years of development.

I would think Buffalo would want either Anderson, Walker or Roy back to fill the hole created from Dahlin. One of the aforementioned D+ prospect(s) and pick(s) to round it out.
 
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I dunno man. It's a tough one. Dahlin could start fulfilling expectations, or he could be Adam Larsson/Erik Johnson, or something in between like Ekblad. But I don't think he's the generational d-man people thought he was going to be. While we have the dman whisperer in Yawney and the correct structure around him, it's still MUCH more of a gamble than it's being made seem.

I still fall back to you trade to add and complete, not to build. That would arguably open up more holes to MAYBE fill one, not even certainly fill one.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
I dunno man. It's a tough one. Dahlin could start fulfilling expectations, or he could be Adam Larsson/Erik Johnson, or something in between like Ekblad. But I don't think he's the generational d-man people thought he was going to be. While we have the dman whisperer in Yawney and the correct structure around him, it's still MUCH more of a gamble than it's being made seem.

I still fall back to you trade to add and complete, not to build. That would arguably open up more holes to MAYBE fill one, not even certainly fill one.
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I think your part about trade to add is the right mentality. I think its very tempting for Blake to go after someone like Dahlin or Eichel, especially Dahlin, but I think there's a point where you don't want to stray too far off of the plan you've spent putting in place even if Dahlin could be a long term piece. I believe the Kings think Turcotte, for example, is a big piece of what they're trying to build and I don't think they would move him even moving him means filling a hole. I just don't think the Kings are in the right spot to make this kind of deal
 
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I do feel that you have to give up something in order to get anything of value. I can live with moving Turcotte although I think he is a Mike Richards type of player. Kupari is another guy that I can live with moving in the package. The first would be a lot especially if it's top 5-10. That said, if it allows us to keep Kaliyev and Byfield plus get Dahlin then it would be hard to turn that down.

Now if they could get away with moving a tier two player and both 2nd's while keeping the first then that would be even better.

On the Buffalo side, it would be more than fair to see:

Turcotte
Kupari
Strand or someone along that tier
2 2nd rounds picks
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Definitely don't see the Kings dropping to top 5 pick considering the fact they're playing solid hockey. They're probably gonna end up being 9-12th in drafting, so that makes giving up the first a lot more doable for me.

But yeah, I have no issue with pursuing Dahlin since we won't get that from the draft nor our pipeline realistically. Watching Dahlin play, he's definitely a top defender on most teams. Hes nothing close to Adam Larsson or Erik Johnson. He just has the misfortune of being drafted by the Sabres.
 
The kings can't trade QB with an aging Kopitar. Turcotte seems like a real play driver. A guy who wins 50/50 battles. I wouldn't be surprised if Turc has a kings tattoo already. It would sting bad if the Kings traded AT and we are left with that copper division dalhin getting pylon'd on the regular lol
 
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