tny760
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that's my read too, just dreger pointing out something obvious and calling it a rumor
wow the kings want a partner for doughty? no kidding!
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wow the kings want a partner for doughty? no kidding!
kovacro
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I think Rags fans would tend to disagree. They value him a ton. I think he's a keeper for them. Read somewhere a month or so ago that the organization was really impressed with the development track he has taken in the last year or so.
Tough to say who would even be out there. Maybe a guy like Vince Dunn. Apparently, the cost was/is a 1st round pick. I don;t think they are too strong down the middle organizationally after ROR and Schenn.
Jake Bean? He has played well since being inserted into the Canes' lineup. Put up some solid numbers in the AHL the past couple seasons. They look to be pretty good down the middle currently and prospect wise.
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Bean is playing good with pretty limited minutes. He’d be buried on the 3rd pair- we have Clague for that already.
I’m not sure if the strat here is to find someone good enough to push ppl down the depth chart or find a younger player who hasn’t broken out yet but should.
I’m not sure if the strat here is to find someone good enough to push ppl down the depth chart or find a younger player who hasn’t broken out yet but should.
I'd rather lose a forward than a defenseman in general when it comes to expansion. Middle pairing defense tend to bring a better return than middle forwards as assets.
I'd love to see Clague and Strand get more playing time, but since they are expansion eligible limiting their playing time in the NHL makes it more of a risk for a picking team as they are more unknown quantities. After expansion you see if they can supplant someone like Walker, who would be a pretty good trade chip in a bigger deal. I'm no GM, but I would guess that expansion is influencing roster time for guys in that 21-24 age range who are just breaking in.
I'd love to see Clague and Strand get more playing time, but since they are expansion eligible limiting their playing time in the NHL makes it more of a risk for a picking team as they are more unknown quantities. After expansion you see if they can supplant someone like Walker, who would be a pretty good trade chip in a bigger deal. I'm no GM, but I would guess that expansion is influencing roster time for guys in that 21-24 age range who are just breaking in.
cyclones22
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He had 6 goals and 13 assists in 44 games in Ontario last season. The way he thinks the game I think he can be a 30 point or so scorer from the blueline with some PP2 time.
These guys are almost never right about the Kings. The end.
kovacro
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Yes, depends on their thinking. I'd figure a guy like Dunn could be a match but, does a deal like this make sense during the season, especially for the Blues? You would think they have designs on contending even though they have been banged up recently so Dunn would be more of need at the moment. I don't think they would throw in the towel.
If something does happen, I suspect it's likely a deal in the summer at some point.
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A Werenski conversation starts with Turcotte or Vilardi unfortunately.
Same with any other under 25 dynamic LHD. Which is why the article is kinda a joke. You know who else is looking for those types of players? Every other team in the league! Including teams that already have one!
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cyclones22
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What's the fascination with Dunn? He's not good. Guys, he's getting 72% offensive zone starts! 59% last season. He's being sheltered to a ridiculous extent. He's not good at defense, at all. For reference, MacD is at 55.8% which is highest on the team. Then Clague and Strand, then Walker at a respectable 51.7%. Dunn is a specialist who's not that special. Pass.
agreed, there is a reason a team that is decimated by injury on D is looking to move him.
Friedman got it straight from Blake that the Kings are not going to add. 2/22. Just 4 days ago.
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I think we lose one of Walker, Clague or Strand regardless. All our protection decision does is dictate who they choose from. Forwards will be easier to get in the expansion, whereas we will have a young D with long term control of their rights to offer. I’m willing to bet there will not be many guys like that available with untapped upside like all 3 have.
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3 reasons I can think of:
(1) East coast bias and focus minimizes west coast players, esp US
(2) Analytics people do not take clutch performances, outcomes and competitive spirit team effects into enough account
(3) His stats look pedestrian but those that have watched him regularly know how great he is, esp in big games/playoffs
I agree, but 6 wins could change pressure from ownership.
KOTP also discussed it, but more in regards to a specific type and age of D-man., not just any LHD.
I doubt anything happens till offseason so both what Blake said on Sportsnet and TSN article will be true
I should have also added the mention that the plan is not to add even if the kings were in the playoff race. That makes Blake's position pretty clear.
Also keep in mind a professional season is defined as under an NHL contract. For example, Kevin Gravel didn't need protection from Vegas because his first year of professional experience was just an AHL contract.
BigKing
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Tell the world you are looking to add and GM's might think you are desperate. Say that you are standing pat and they might not try to clown you with initial offers.
I do believe that they are mainly standing pat but definitely have their eyes open for any deal that is a long term play.
If they truly keep Bjornfot up all season long, that is like adding a player for the purposes of making the playoffs this season since it did seem like the initial plan was to slide his ELC.
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This is pretty close to Quinn Hughes level of awesomeness. Anyone see the empty net beauty by McJesus last night. Okay it's McJesus but still epic D by Hughes.
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St. Louis is really banged up right now and have a ton of defensemen out. Also Vince Dunn has looked like crap this season.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
I just don't understand the level of anxiety here about losing a bottom-pairing D to Seattle. Honestly I would be sadder if Seattle picked Quick.
agreed. with Vegas I did not want to lose McNab as I saw him as a top 4. I thought LA should have moved him for help on the wing beforehand and then gone the 4x4 protection and lost no one.
At the time I suggestion Muzzin to Toronto for Kapanen and pick and most leaf fans were in agreement with some even offering a first.
This time around there is no clear wat to protect everyone I would like to, but Seattle can only take one guy and LA is still set up pretty good to ensure it is not a core player.
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