GDT: 2019 Training Camp Info/Roster
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Master Yoda
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Constantinou and Yantsis still here. Hope they earn a contract.
kovacro
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It would be tough as the Kings are at 49 contracts. Maybe they offer AHL deals if these guys impress.
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Ziggy Stardust
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You are correct. I think the tweet from LA Kings PR misspoke as usually the day before on-ice activities is when players report and get weighed, measured and have their portraits taken. Plus, this link also mentions the first day of camp being on the 12th.
2019 Preseason schedule released; Training camp opens on September 12 - LA Kings Insider
Sleeping Dog
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Maybe they told a few players to report on Friday 9/12 and when they don’t, they’ll cut them!
regulate
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Thomas contract won't count towards the 50 when he goes to the OHL, same with Bjornfot and Fagemo when the return to the SHL, so there is room to add more if they want.
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LaDue starting injured?
That might be your last shot whistling bye-bye, Paul.
That might be your last shot whistling bye-bye, Paul.
kilowatt
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Some exciting guys to look out for: Anderson-Dolan, Clague, Grundstrom, Rempal, Rymsha, Anderson, Lizotte, Eyssimont, Durzi, Wagner, Kaliyev, Bjornfot, Phillips, Luff, Fagemo, Strand, Brickley, Thomas, Dudas, Sodergran, Kupari.
Will any of them make it? Anderson-Dolan, Grundstrom, and Wagner are all a probably. Can some of these other guys really impress?
Will any of them make it? Anderson-Dolan, Grundstrom, and Wagner are all a probably. Can some of these other guys really impress?
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Reaper45
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I'm of the belief Lizotte could be a 4th line center right now
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I also think Lizotte and JAD have good shots, but also with Forbort probably not being ready, (LHD) Clague may make it, if he has a great camp and games. I know Ryan will have a good chance to be among the 6 with Forbort out.
I think Michael Anderson may have a shot as well. If he's in Ontario, fine, but think he's a fixture by next season. I know the 'plan' is to send Bjornfot back to Sweden, but wonder if there's a chance he plays in Ontario. May actually be better for him and the Kings, so he plays on the smaller ice and adapts quicker...OR is it arranged if he does not make the Kings, he MUST go back to Sweden? Either way, he will be here next year.
I think Grundstrom is on the team...unless he has a bad camp and games.
Choralone
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New Pronman Article on the Athletic, Pronman: Top 124 NHL prospects entering the 2019-20 season.
(This one includes skaters only - he will do a separate goaltending one. )
With 31 NHL franchises, the average number of top prospects for teams should equal 4, and average distribution should place them one each in the following ranges: 1-31, 32-62, 63- 93, 94-124.
The Kings have 9 on his list, ranked as follows: (As usual, Pronman groups them by tiers)
Special NHL Prospect (1)
Special / Elite Bubble (2)
Elite NHL Prospect (3-7)
High-End NHL Prospect (14-30)
Very Good NHL Prospect (42-87)
So 2 prospects in the top 25%, 1 in the 26% - 50% quantile, none in the 51%-75% quantile, and 6 in the 76%-100% quantile.
(This one includes skaters only - he will do a separate goaltending one. )
With 31 NHL franchises, the average number of top prospects for teams should equal 4, and average distribution should place them one each in the following ranges: 1-31, 32-62, 63- 93, 94-124.
The Kings have 9 on his list, ranked as follows: (As usual, Pronman groups them by tiers)
Special NHL Prospect (1)
Special / Elite Bubble (2)
Elite NHL Prospect (3-7)
# 7 Alex Turcotte
Elite/High End Bubble (8-13)High-End NHL Prospect (14-30)
# 19 Arthur Kaliyev
High-End Very Good Bubble (31-41)Very Good NHL Prospect (42-87)
#42 Rasmus Kupari
Very Good / Legit Prospect (88-124)# 96 Tobias Bjornfot
#105 Kale Clague
# 108 Samuel Fagemo
# 110 Akil Thomas
# 116 Jaret Anderson-Dolan
# 120 Mikey Anderson
#105 Kale Clague
# 108 Samuel Fagemo
# 110 Akil Thomas
# 116 Jaret Anderson-Dolan
# 120 Mikey Anderson
So 2 prospects in the top 25%, 1 in the 26% - 50% quantile, none in the 51%-75% quantile, and 6 in the 76%-100% quantile.
Choralone
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He also includes "tool grades" for each player, as he explains:
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Pronman said:
| Rank | Name | Skating | Puck Skills | Physical Game | Hockey Sense | Shot Grade |
| 7 | Alex Turcotte | 60 | 60 | 50 | 60 | |
| 19 | Arthur Kaliyev | 50 | 55 | 50 | 65 | 60 |
| 42 | Rasmus Kupari | 60 | 60 | 55 | 55 | |
| 96 | Tobias Bjornfot | 60 | 55 | 45 | 60 | |
| 105 | Kale Clague | 60 | 55 | 45 | 55 | |
| 108 | Samuel Fagemo | 55 | 55 | 50 | 55 | |
| 110 | Akil Thomas | 50 | 60 | 45 | 60 | |
| 116 | Jaret Anderson-Dolan | 60 | 55 | 45 | 55 | |
| 120 | Mikey Anderson | 50 | 55 | 45 | 60 |
kilowatt
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Worth noting that Vilardi is not on this list, and would likely slot in between Turcotte and Kaliyev if healthy. Although Kaliyev is too high and Kupari too low, in my opinion.
"If" Vilardi where healthy he'd be between Kakko and Makar.. Although he hasn't played much, the times he has he's been the best player on the ice.
regulate
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I'd give Vilardi 50 for skating, 60 for puck skills, 60 for physical game, 65 for hockey sense, 60 for shot.
Yup, right up there with Kakko... Because he's been hurt people have forgotten just how good he is... there's a reason the Kings are handling him with kid gloves.. Hopefully he regains his health soon
Raccoon Jesus
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Yep, a healthy Gabe Vilardi is Jason Allison 2.0. Let's hope we see that guy at some point. But I agree, if he's some fringe prospect, they're not handling him the way they are.
An unhealthy Vilardi is also Jason Allison 2.0.
kingsfan28
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yeah, that would be sweet having a guy like that. If it take a few extra years to get there, so be it.
I think calling Vilardi an asshole who no one wants to bowl with is going a bit far. I mean, we don't even know if he can bowl, especially with that back of his.
kilowatt
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I like Pronman and have The Athletic...but if Kaliyev and Akil Thomas are equal skaters; at 50, that is flawed. Akil Thomas is an excellent skater and should be 55 or even 60. He's right about Kaliyev's hockey sense and adding an extra element for his shot, however. I think Akil Thomas is on the rise and taking his game to the next level...being named Captain of Niagara is a good thing as well. You could see good things from the rookie tournament, but Akil needs to get his shot off quicker. He will learn.
Both Kaliyev and Thomas should be top 5 in scoring this yr in the OHL.
Both Kaliyev and Thomas should be top 5 in scoring this yr in the OHL.
