GPNuck
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Pre-Game Talk: 2019 NHL Draft, Pt. V: Got your ticket? (Mod note in pinned post)
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I think that’s spurious though. His shoulder has been healthy for 4+ years and his shot is no better now than then. His mechanics should have no reason to change permanently or impact him years later.
Josepho
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Essentially, Virtanen got lucky in his draft year with what was quite likely a high and unsustainable shooting percentage. The injury just makes the pick look even worse since it was known at the time of the pick. It took years before posters realized Virtanen’s draft season was an aberration and that he was just not a very good player.
Addison Rae
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I know you followed Virtanen really closely in his draft year and as a prospect and have a really good track record on here. I'll concede, I thought their was a correlation based on my viewings pre and post surgery.
Addison Rae
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Hey man went through the archives and couldn't find the interview, I handed the assignment into my school learning hub, but the course was taken down due to semester being over.
Sorry!
haha, your opinion of my track record is higher than my own, esp on Virtanen. I def took an L on him.
But it’s neither here nor there on Krebs, as his injury *is* more serious given its impact on skating, which is a pillar of Krebs’ game. I likely wouldn’t have taken him at 10 (assuming Newhook is there) before the injury and definitely would not now, though I do like him a lot and hope he recovers fully.
I am really high on Krebs but that's a very serious and unfortunate injury. How much of his achilles was torn? I think the percentage makes a big difference. Seguin I think had a relatively minor one and he came back ok? Erik Karlsson had a more serious one but he had successive injuries that made it hard to tell how he came back. For NBA players they are never the same so it does affect explosiveness and quickness.
Without knowing the full details, I am still tempted to draft without consideration for Krebs' achilles injury as it is an injury that players can recover from and isn't something that is typically chronic.
Without knowing the full details, I am still tempted to draft without consideration for Krebs' achilles injury as it is an injury that players can recover from and isn't something that is typically chronic.
Thought I would chime in as this is a familiar territory for me. I tore my Achilles and it failed to heal. I have chronic Achilles tendinitis which may be slightly different for me than Peyton, but I was never able to skate freely without pain.
Wasn’t super high on Krebs before so not a big problem for me.
Wasn’t super high on Krebs before so not a big problem for me.
Barzal aside I'm generally not into taking chances with seriously injured draft eligible players. As much as I like Krebs the Nucks should look elsewhere unless they see meaningful separation between him and other prospects in their range (I doubt there is one).
Newhook it is, I guess, since the other much talked about forwards are less likely to be there.
Newhook it is, I guess, since the other much talked about forwards are less likely to be there.
Damn. How much of your Achilles was torn? Was it ruptured rather than torn? Age and when it happened (assuming surgical techniques have improved) can be big factors as well. Krebs is obviously going to benefit from high level if not world class rehab treatment and advice as well.
I think the risk is there but it can go both ways. Take the 2012 draft. Morgan Rielly wasn't ranked as a top 3 pick mostly because he suffered an bad ACL tear. Galchenyuk could have challenged for the #1 spot.
I'm not sure. We've seen flashes where JV can "rip the puck". It's just his poor IQ results in generally poor shot selection and he's not good at finding "soft spots".
The problem with Jake is he had a very junior game and never really adapted. Basically, all the goals he scored in junior were "skate down the wing, burn defender, and either deke the goalie or rip a shot from the circle". It doesn't work all the time in the NHL.
Obviously, injuries don't help. But the big thing with JV is that he wasn't a good pick.
Krebs injury is going to impact his draft position. But he has a much different game than JV as well. He'll still have the playmaking mind. The impact on his skating will be unknown.
Bubbles
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Really sad news to hear about Krebs, but shows a lot of character to stick with the interview.
Pretty sure the Canucks are set on one of those three, maybe now they'll take Newhook as the "safer" pick.
Pretty sure the Canucks are set on one of those three, maybe now they'll take Newhook as the "safer" pick.
Boesersflow123
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Yeah I think that is the guy the Canucks go with. I am not too high on Boldy and I don't want the team to gamble on Krebs especially after having this injury that's the last thing we need. Caufield is tempting its just that size but I love the offense he delivers and you think of guys like Gaudreau and Debrincat. Then you have Zegras if he falls I grab him, but I see him going 7 or 8th.
1. Newhook (Most realistic)
2. Caufield
3. Boldy
4. Zegras (Least likely)
Anything can happen.
Why are resale tickets to round one $150+ for upper bowl?! That's more per ticket than I paid for center ice Leafs/Canucks.
Bubbles
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At which point I'll still be happy with Krebs. The injury is a bit overblown because as he's only 17 and it was unlikely he would be in the NHL next year anyways. He'll have ample time to recover and there's no rush for him.
IMO two teams are going to "reach" and pick Caufield and Podkolzin in the top 9. Which leaves us plenty of options at 10, as long as it's not a defenseman.
Let's face it, the Canucks track record of drafting impact players from the Dub is just plain awful. Normally an injury to a prospect like Krebs would have happened AFTER the Canucks drafted him.
Better to stick to the USTDP or Sweden.....that's where the Canucks seem to have the most success.
Better to stick to the USTDP or Sweden.....that's where the Canucks seem to have the most success.
So if Byram fell to 10 you’d pass on him because he plays in the same league as some previous bad picks??
That sounds like superstition.
McKenzie's rankings aren't out yet but I'm not sure that Krebs and Newhook are likely to go in the top 9 anyways. If anything, Broberg having excellent combine interviews and being linked to Edmonton might cause one of the other forwards to slide down.
Exactly what I was thinking. Krebs injury is actually terrible news for the Canucks, since now there is one less player to tempt other teams drafting ahead of us.
Bettman Returnz
Why so serious?
How come Boldy isn’t getting a follow-up? At this point he should be in the mix (IMO) too.
I’ve finalized my choices for who we take at 10
Of the guys expected to go 8-12 I have Zegras as my number 1, he is just so creative, he looks like petterrsen and those two would make entertaining players for years
I have Newhook as my second choice because of his speed, which we lack, although I don’t know if he would be a fit YET but if he is committed to Boston college then our team should be different when he is ready
3rd I like Caufield, obviously he can score goals and that’s what we need, size is a concern but not enough to pass on him
4th Podkolzen, the kid is pretty awesome, his lack of exposure has dropped his stock but he is gonna be a Home run for the team gutsy enough to overlook the Russian factor
5th probably Broberg honourable mention, I think he is a pretty solid pick, not who I want but definitely wouldn’t be disappointed
Then if a turcotte, byram or cozens fell I’d have to take them
Just stay on the board and don’t reach and we should have a good player
Of the guys expected to go 8-12 I have Zegras as my number 1, he is just so creative, he looks like petterrsen and those two would make entertaining players for years
I have Newhook as my second choice because of his speed, which we lack, although I don’t know if he would be a fit YET but if he is committed to Boston college then our team should be different when he is ready
3rd I like Caufield, obviously he can score goals and that’s what we need, size is a concern but not enough to pass on him
4th Podkolzen, the kid is pretty awesome, his lack of exposure has dropped his stock but he is gonna be a Home run for the team gutsy enough to overlook the Russian factor
5th probably Broberg honourable mention, I think he is a pretty solid pick, not who I want but definitely wouldn’t be disappointed
Then if a turcotte, byram or cozens fell I’d have to take them
Just stay on the board and don’t reach and we should have a good player
TruGr1t
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Seems like they've zeroed in on a centre or defenseman, though there's been some buzz Boldy might be able to make the switch to the middle. Overall, I think they're looking at best-in-class skaters, which would be Newhook, Broberg, and probably Cozens/Krebs after Hughes.
I agree if he's there at 10 OA I'd be pretty disappointed if they didn't take him. He'd be a great fit in our top six.
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