2019 NHL Draft, Pt. II

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what an astonishing thing to say. from my quick calculations, EP had 64g, 101a for 165 pts in 213 games (starting in the superelit league in 2015-16)...that doesn’t include his nhl totals this year.

hughes had 106g, 225a for 341 points in 165 games (starting in US juniors 2017-18).

what exactly are you basing your pettersson >hughes on? “lmao” indeed
Based on the fact that Pettersson is a PPG rookie???

Comparing SuperElite to USNDTP numbers is f***ing pointless lol
 
just curious...if the devils win the draft lottery and you guys are picking 9th, would you do:

to vancouver: 1st overall, 4th rounder
to NJ: pettersson, 9th overall, 3rd rounder

you immediately replace pettersson with hughes, who has a higher ceiling than pettersson, and you get another brother connection

again, just curious. i come in peace, etc. seems like a good deal for both sides
Lol this is a dumpster fire of a proposal.
 
I’m not saying this for shock value or anything

I wouldn’t do 1st overall and Hischier for Pettersson straight across

I think that’s how most of our fan base would react as well

Mystery box could be anything type scenario
 
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what an astonishing thing to say. from my quick calculations, EP had 64g, 101a for 165 pts in 213 games (starting in the superelit league in 2015-16)...that doesn’t include his nhl totals this year.

hughes had 106g, 225a for 341 points in 165 games (starting in US juniors 2017-18).

what exactly are you basing your pettersson >hughes on? “lmao” indeed

Oh dear.

Pettersson is about to win the calder trophy setting a Canucks points record in the process. He has already proven his ability to be an elite player in the NHL. You don't swap that for magic beans. Maybe Hughes will be as good as Pettersson. Maybe.
 
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stop, stop, i can only bookmark so many posts lol. looking forward to circling back on this in a couple of years to see how old jack “magic beans” hughes compares to pettersson. good lord
 
stop, stop, i can only bookmark so many posts lol. looking forward to circling back on this in a couple of years to see how old jack “magic beans” hughes compares to pettersson. good lord
Hey if the Canucks win the draft lottery and the Devils fall to say 6th, would you do:

To Canucks: Hischer, 6th overall, 3rd round pick
To Devils: 1st overall, 4th round pick
 
what an astonishing thing to say. from my quick calculations, EP had 64g, 101a for 165 pts in 213 games (starting in the superelit league in 2015-16)...that doesn’t include his nhl totals this year.

hughes had 106g, 225a for 341 points in 165 games (starting in US juniors 2017-18).

what exactly are you basing your pettersson >hughes on? “lmao” indeed

This season alone for Hughes skews his points totals. He's playing with top end talent on the USNDT (Quality of Teammates) and the USNDT plays a lot of their games against the USHL which has much lower talent for the most part (Quality of Competition).
 
what an astonishing thing to say. from my quick calculations, EP had 64g, 101a for 165 pts in 213 games (starting in the superelit league in 2015-16)...that doesn’t include his nhl totals this year.

hughes had 106g, 225a for 341 points in 165 games (starting in US juniors 2017-18).

what exactly are you basing your pettersson >hughes on? “lmao” indeed

did you ask Daneyko for drinkin advice?
 
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just curious...if the devils win the draft lottery and you guys are picking 9th, would you do:

to vancouver: 1st overall, 4th rounder
to NJ: pettersson, 9th overall, 3rd rounder

you immediately replace pettersson with hughes, who has a higher ceiling than pettersson, and you get another brother connection

again, just curious. i come in peace, etc. seems like a good deal for both sides

Hughes does not have a higher ceiling than Pettersson.

Not trying to be an A hole. But dont think theres any chance Van entertains it.
 
thank you for your advice, the internet is so big and scary sometimes. i’ll check out this “trade board” you referred to, maybe they won’t blindly dismiss mutually beneficial trades out of ignorance. in the meantime i’ll bookmark this post- hughes will put up a 100 point season quicker than pettersson. if anybody wants to put money on that send me a PM
You seem to be really full of yourself.

The only person here who thinks this trade is “mutually beneficial” is you.

Also people who disagree with you are “ignorant”? Wow gtfo.

Like someone else suggested, would you do Hughes for Hischier + devils first?
 
what an astonishing thing to say. from my quick calculations, EP had 64g, 101a for 165 pts in 213 games (starting in the superelit league in 2015-16)...that doesn’t include his nhl totals this year.

hughes had 106g, 225a for 341 points in 165 games (starting in US juniors 2017-18).

what exactly are you basing your pettersson >hughes on? “lmao” indeed
I think there's a real possibility Hughes could be better than Pete at the peak of their career, but that doesn't mean it's smart to make that trade. The difference between their ceilings, at this point, doesn't look significant. Pettersson is established in Van and is about to win the Calder by a landslide, it's just not a good trade for the Nucks.

..As for the stats you've chosen to compare these players - I don't even know where to start.
 
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stop, stop, i can only bookmark so many posts lol. looking forward to circling back on this in a couple of years to see how old jack “magic beans” hughes compares to pettersson. good lord
If you think Hughes is going to be so good why doesn’t NJ just draft him in your hypothetical reality
 
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Would people be disappointed if we took Soderstrom with our pick (8th-10th)?

Yes absolutely. Aside from Byrum the best players in the top 10 are all forwards. I don’t want to see Benning reach for another defenseman that is not exceptional but plays a good 2 way game at 175 lbs
 
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Since we're likely going to be picking 10-15 because God hates us, I would like to see another defenseman get picked. I really like this building from the net out management is doing. It's too bad Juolevi failed but defense wins Championships and I like this emphasis on drafting a blueline.

I think contrary to the hype of this being a weaker draft class, I think there's quite a few defensemen I wouldn't mind taking a run at. Alex Vlasic, Marshall Warren, Korczak off the top of my head would be great here. I wouldn't even mind trading down to grab more picks to get a couple of these guys in the second and third round.

If we're in the 8-12 range, I'd almost rather trade down since there's guys in the 20-50 range I like as much if not more than what's going to be at 8-12.

Then there's a lot of tantalizing forwards like Turcotte, Newfield, Dorofeyev, Caufield, Beecher, Poulin.

My perfect draft is we come out of the first and second round with Turcotte and Vlasic while somehow grabbing more picks in the top 90, but we'll see what happens. I'm pretty hot on this draft class though. I think if Benning and the scouts are sharp, we could come out of this draft with two or three good top four quality defensemen.

It's too bad Elmer is in charge because this is one draft I would like to go heavy on. There's tons of guys who should be available in the middle rounds who have tantalizing potential.
 
Looking like they are picking 9, 10 11 or 12. barring a lottery win

Matthew Boldy is a name to really keep a eye on. Ties to Brackett. and would fill a huge need for the Canucks at LW
 
Since we're likely going to be picking 10-15 because God hates us, I would like to see another defenseman get picked. I really like this building from the net out management is doing. It's too bad Juolevi failed but defense wins Championships and I like this emphasis on drafting a blueline.

I think contrary to the hype of this being a weaker draft class, I think there's quite a few defensemen I wouldn't mind taking a run at. Alex Vlasic, Marshall Warren, Korczak off the top of my head would be great here. I wouldn't even mind trading down to grab more picks to get a couple of these guys in the second and third round.

If we're in the 8-12 range, I'd almost rather trade down since there's guys in the 20-50 range I like as much if not more than what's going to be at 8-12.

Then there's a lot of tantalizing forwards like Turcotte, Newfield, Dorofeyev, Caufield, Beecher, Poulin.

My perfect draft is we come out of the first and second round with Turcotte and Vlasic while somehow grabbing more picks in the top 90, but we'll see what happens. I'm pretty hot on this draft class though. I think if Benning and the scouts are sharp, we could come out of this draft with two or three good top four quality defensemen.

It's too bad Elmer is in charge because this is one draft I would like to go heavy on. There's tons of guys who should be available in the middle rounds who have tantalizing potential.

Turcotte will likely be a top 5 pick...

Also, I almost always hate the idea of trading down because more often than not you're ending up with a worse prospect than what you could have had.
 
I would honestly consider moving the pick and a Dman like Hutton if the Canucks could secure a 21-24 year old proven top 4 dman who's on the rise. Maybe a player like Nurse. Someone young enough that you can plug into the "core" who'll have 6 - 7 years of solid good hockey before they decline.
If that happens, and you're able to sign a top6 forward to play with Horvat.....hmmm all of a sudden you have the making of a playoff team IMO, especially of Hughes proves that he's the real deal over the course of a full season.
 
just curious...if the devils win the draft lottery and you guys are picking 9th, would you do:

to vancouver: 1st overall, 4th rounder
to NJ: pettersson, 9th overall, 3rd rounder

you immediately replace pettersson with hughes, who has a higher ceiling than pettersson, and you get another brother connection

again, just curious. i come in peace, etc. seems like a good deal for both sides
LOL only if you guys add 2020 1st and Hall and we dont add that 3rd rounder
 
I would honestly consider moving the pick and a Dman like Hutton if the Canucks could secure a 21-24 year old proven top 4 dman who's on the rise. Maybe a player like Nurse. Someone young enough that you can plug into the "core" who'll have 6 - 7 years of solid good hockey before they decline.
If that happens, and you're able to sign a top6 forward to play with Horvat.....hmmm all of a sudden you have the making of a playoff team IMO, especially of Hughes proves that he's the real deal over the course of a full season.
You know, you might be on to something here. Particularly if the player the Canucks really liked at 8-12 in the draft was a already gone. Sort of a reverse of the Schneider-Horvat deal, with a significant young piece coming back.

But it would take some serious kahones for Jimbo to trade his first rounder in a year in which the Canucks are actually hosting the draft. Almost inconceivable really.
 
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