2019-nCov: NHL Season SUSPENDED

[yianik]

Welp this didn’t age well

p.s., still stuck at home, 5 weeks and counting

How is it getting food, other shopping ?

 

[yianik]

The number of people this kills is like ten times the rate of normal influenza, but it is still very small. Unless it mutates into something more dangerous, this is not something to cripple society. Although the panic threshold seems real low, people are freaking out.

 

[Canadienna]

The number of people this kills is like ten times the rate of normal influenza, but it is still very small. Unless it mutates into something more dangerous, this is not something to cripple society. Although the panic threshold seems real low, people are freaking out.

The mortality rate is very difficult to narrow down but from what I've seen is still predicted to be much higher than 10x the mortality of the common influenzas.

If those common influenzas had the mortality rate of covid19 they would kill absolutely immense numbers of people.

That's actually one thing epidemiologists are worried about, is this virus not really ever going away and circulating around in the future just as the common influenzas do now.

That would be, without an appropriate treatment, far from ideal. I don't think it does anyone any good to downplay the situation right now. Stock up on food and water, wash your hands (be a germaphobe generally).

If it fizzles out, then great, it's still good practice.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

I work in the Hotel Industry and I have groups wanting to cancel left and right at the moment. Groups that are not even coming from Asia or Europe. They're just scared of travelling. This will affect the worldwide tourism industry big time.

Imagine Italy which is probably the 1st or 2nd in the world when it comes to visiting tourists. All the cases in Sweden (15 so far) had been travelling in Northern Italy.

 

[yianik]

The mortality rate is very difficult to narrow down but from what I've seen is still predicted to be much higher than 10x the mortality of the common influenzas.

If those common influenzas had the mortality rate of covid19 they would kill absolutely immense numbers of people.

That's actually one thing epidemiologists are worried about, is this virus not really ever going away and circulating around in the future just as the common influenzas do now.

That would be, without an appropriate treatment, far from ideal. I don't think it does anyone any good to downplay the situation right now. Stock up on food and water, wash your hands (be a germaphobe generally).

If it fizzles out, then great, it's still good practice.

I read they would have a vaccine in 18 months so I thought they meant that would protect people. Yeah, if it stuck around killing 2% plus of the population every year that would be impactful alright.

Washing hands etc is not " panicking". Buying out all toilet paper seems excessive.

 

[Canadienna]

Washing hands etc is not " panicking". Buying out all toilet paper seems excessive.

Especially if you live in an area with lambs ear or sphagnum moss!

 

[Milhouse40]

Imagine Italy which is probably the 1st or 2nd in the world when it comes to visiting tourists. All the cases in Sweden (15 so far) had been travelling in Northern Italy.

Not for Canadians….apparently Iran is now a place to go these days.

 

[yianik]

Especially if you live in an area with lambs ear or sphagnum moss!

Damn right.

 

[MasterDecoy]

How is it getting food, other shopping ?

everything is stocked as normal

you know times are strange when its the chinese have their shit together

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Hand sanitizers are sold out in the greater Portland area and so are toilet papers in many places so it is getting ridiculous here.

 

[Braun]

everything is stocked as normal

you know times are strange when its the chinese have their shit together

My friend who’s worked on Shanghai for 5 years was told to return to Canada until they call him back to work. They did this with all the teachers from his international school. The whole thing is screwed up!

 

[Braun]

Hand sanitizers are sold out in the greater Portland area and so are toilet papers in many places so it is getting ridiculous here.

Toilet paper? Why?! Lol

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Not for Canadians….apparently Iran is now a place to go these days.

Sweden who also has a fairly large Iranian born population have stopped flights from Iran.

 

[MasterDecoy]

My friend who’s worked on Shanghai for 5 years was told to return to Canada until they call him back to work. They did this with all the teachers from his international school. The whole thing is screwed up!

yeah.

schools look like they're gonna be closed until at least april. probably may, but who knows at this point

 

[Treb]

I read they would have a vaccine in 18 months so I thought they meant that would protect people. Yeah, if it stuck around killing 2% plus of the population every year that would be impactful alright.

Washing hands etc is not " panicking". Buying out all toilet paper seems excessive.

A vaccine would be great since coronavirus has a relatively low mutation rate (AFAIK) compared to Influenza or HIV, so it should cover the majority of infections from that strand.

 

[montreal]

I read they would have a vaccine in 18 months so I thought they meant that would protect people. Yeah, if it stuck around killing 2% plus of the population every year that would be impactful alright.

Washing hands etc is not " panicking". Buying out all toilet paper seems excessive.

one of the companies I own stock in will start human trials in the US in a few weeks.

 

[cphabs]

Get Lysine

 

[Deebs]

everything is stocked as normal

you know times are strange when its the chinese have their shit together

China never has their shii together.

 

[Paddyjack]

I read they would have a vaccine in 18 months so I thought they meant that would protect people. Yeah, if it stuck around killing 2% plus of the population every year that would be impactful alright.

Washing hands etc is not " panicking". Buying out all toilet paper seems excessive.

A vaccine would be great since coronavirus has a relatively low mutation rate (AFAIK) compared to Influenza or HIV, so it should cover the majority of infections from that strand.

Ok, couple of things here. This is not the flu indeed and once it will go around the world a few times infections should likely be lower and lower because immunity will develop against that thing since it is stable. So in such a case this won't be a case of "it will kill 2% every year". Secondly, the rate of mortality is strongly biased by the 60+ people and people with health problems. Here are the official numbers from a document available at the Institut National de Santé Publique:

Les données suivantes portent sur les 44 672 cas confirmés par laboratoire (CCDC, 2020, Wu, 2020).  Distribution de l’âge des patients : La grande majorité (87 %) des cas ont entre 30 et 79 ans. Seulement 1 % des cas ont entre 10-19 ans et 1% sont âgés de moins de 9 ans. Trois pour cent ont plus de 80 ans.  Le taux de létalité global est de 2 % et semble un peu plus élevé chez les hommes (3 %) que chez les femmes (2 %). Aucun décès rapporté parmi les moins de neuf ans. La proportion de décès augmente progressivement avec l’âge : 1 % pour les 50-59 ans, 4 % chez les 60-69, 8 % pour les 70-79 et 15 % pour les 80 ans et plus. La létalité chez les patients avec maladies chroniques varie de 5 % à 10 % alors qu’elle est de 1 % pour les personnes sans maladies chroniques. Une étude réalisée chez neuf femmes enceintes infectées par le COVID-19 au troisième trimestre a révélé qu’aucune n’avait développé.

Now I'm not saying to be careless about it and act like it doesn't exist. To paraphrase US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams “Caution is appropriate, preparedness is appropriate, panic is not."

 

[Redux91]

People love a good health scare..its incredible.... this happens every couple of years you would think people would start understanding there are thousands of virus strands and there always will be...

Just like sars, just like H1N1, people get caught up in the mass hysteria..

As per usual , no mentions of the RECOVERIES (50 thousand of 90 thousand infected chinese have already recovered so far without the vaccine)
80% of ALL Coronavirus deaths so far have been to people aged 60+
75% of THEM already had prior cardio vascular and respiratory diseases....

I dont want to dismiss and disregard ANY of the actual deaths, it absolutely sucks and its sad sure.. And there IS some good to be had from all the hysteria, and that would be the precautions everybody can (and should always be taking ANYway) use now to prevent the further mass spread of such a "virus" ...but at the same time its like... Relax... people think just GETTING it is a death sentence..

The common cold kills 70 thousand people a year. (guess what, mostly seniors)
We are at 3200 related Cov-19 deaths... 90% from the 90k infected in china , Calculate the people per capita of china, and a suicide bomb that killed 30 in bagdad would kill a thousand in china... Again not dismissing any of that, its tragic, its important,...but...its inflated for a reason...

This is important and im not saying it isnt, but the mass hysteria coming from this is just a sad sad and pathetic sight, people litteraly think the world is coming to an end...my god...
Take your vitamins, dont smoke cigarrettes..you will beat COV-19 in a week. obviously a bit tougher to beat for seniors...as is everything else..


Remember that big black bubonic plague from the 1300's that killed 80% of europe? THE plague?
Well guess what... it still kills 200 people in the world ANNUALLY to this day.... these things just dont disappear...

Lets just all calm down please.

 

[MXD]

Amongst things I didn't expect to see in 2020 but that really makes sense at this point : A blockbuster's release delayed by 7 months due to a flu epidemic.

 

[Habaneros]

1.35 million people worldwide every year die in car/traffic accidents....

 

[Paddyjack]

 

[Paddyjack]

Here is an interesting video comparing Covid 19 to other outbreak. Swine Flu in 2009 was incredible!

 

[montreal]

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that's interesting, never saw that before. man people need to slow down in their cars, holy shit that's a lot of auto accident deaths. Granted I should take some caution there myself.

I know that in the coming years Alzheimer's is going to go way up on this list but I expect cancer will drop in the next 10-20 years as I do a lot of research/investing in bio-tech stocks.