Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Thread: The Countdown - 2 days to go!

[BudBundy]

He reminds me of Ty Rattie, and I'm not even afraid of the blow back from the comparison. North-south speed, not very lateral in his skating, is always on the top end of his gear and isn't necessarily looking for the next play.

There's a great video breakdown on his prospects page, and his play-style reminded me of Ty 100%.

I havent seen enough of him to weigh in. It would surprise me that a guy who you think skates like Rattie would be rated this highly. If true, that doesnt bode well.

 

[McTonyBrar]

If the draft plays out like Mckenzie thinks, which is extremely close to what I think, Boldy is probably the safe/best pick.

Caufield obviously the most skilled but I can't blame the Oilers after how ineffective Yamamoto has been if they steer clear.

Question. Ignoring the injury. Is Krebs better than Boldy?

Podkolzin at 8 doesn't make sense to me. 2 years in Russia and then the transition to North America... KHL also atrocious on lack of playing time for rookies. Long time to wait for a prospect you are drafting at 8... I still am not sure what is so great about him either.

Lol how has Yamamoto been ineffective? He's 20 years old and he was decent in his time in the AHL when he wasn't injured. It was his first pro year relax

 

[McTonyBrar]

Stauffer thinks Oilers will go Broberg at #8. I dont like that at all.

Everytime that Boob says this I want throw something around or maybe just at his head so he can regain some sense. That would be absolutely HORRIBLE. Trade down for him if you want him

 

[McTonyBrar]

Is he pushing this again today on OilersNow??
If we take a Dman i'd rather trade down and have Seider from what i've read about him.

Yeah passing, breakout D-men like Seider or Soderstrom are much better than Broberg. Broberg rushes the puck more and his decision making doesn't seem the best (although he's still really young). Bob has a hard on for him from one small tournament its so stupid to be honest

 

[McDrai]

Everytime that Boob says this I want throw something around or maybe just at his head so he can regain some sense. That would be absolutely HORRIBLE. Trade down for him if you want him

Could you imagine if Bob Stauffer was our head amateur scout?

Bob Stauffer: "So what are your thoughts on the Mediterranean Chicken Pizza from Royal Pizza?"

Broberg: "It's my favorite pizza hands down!"

Bob Stauffer: "You're our guy."

 

[nuck]

Except for Ty Smith I think Button was 11 for the first 12 last year and none were more than 4 spots off his guess, and 10 for the first 12 in 2017. He now has Broberg at #7 ahead of Turcotte, Dach and Cozens so I think I could see him top 10. If you are not a Broberg fan, how about having a choice between Turcotte and Dach at 8?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Except for Ty Smith I think Button was 11 for the first 12 last year and none were more than 4 spots off his guess, and 10 for the first 12 in 2017. He now has Broberg at #7 ahead of Turcotte, Dach and Cozens so I think I could see him top 10. If you are not a Broberg fan, how about having a choice between Turcotte and Dach at 8?

Broberg at 16th is a good sign though.

 

[BudBundy]

Except for Ty Smith I think Button was 11 for the first 12 last year and none were more than 4 spots off his guess, and 10 for the first 12 in 2017. He now has Broberg at #7 ahead of Turcotte, Dach and Cozens so I think I could see him top 10. If you are not a Broberg fan, how about having a choice between Turcotte and Dach at 8?

If Broberg was a RH shot I’d be far more enthusiastic. If Turcotte or Dach are available at 8, I giggle my arse off with either of them. Consensus seems to be Turcotte has the higher upside so I’d probably lean that way.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Lol how has Yamamoto been ineffective? He's 20 years old and he was decent in his time in the AHL when he wasn't injured. It was his first pro year relax

This. Injuries aside Yamamoto had a perfectly reasonable first AHL season. 10 goals in 27 games projects to 25 over a full AHL season. I would have preferred he’d been heathy, but this isn’t a Kieffer Bellows situation here.

As for Broberg he’s a huge, huge reach at 8. If he’s the guy then whatever but at very least trade down and grab another 2nd.

 

[FlameChampion]

If Broberg was a RH shot I’d be far more enthusiastic. If Turcotte or Dach are available at 8, I giggle my arse off with either of them. Consensus seems to be Turcotte has the higher upside so I’d probably lean that way.

I dont Turcotte necessarily has higher upside than Dach, because Dach has extremely good hockey IQ. The thing with Turcotte is that hes a great skater, competes hard all over the ice. The one main knock I read on Dach is that he doesnt always compete hard. He has games where he goes invisible. His skating is a bit of knock too but hes still a good skater for a 6 foot 4 player.

 

[Llamamoto]

I dont Turcotte necessarily has higher upside than Dach, because Dach has extremely good hockey IQ. The thing with Turcotte is that hes a great skater, competes hard all over the ice. The one main knock I read on Dach is that he doesnt always compete hard. He has games where he goes invisible. His skating is a bit of knock too but hes still a good skater for a 6 foot 4 player.

Dach has a higher upside than Turcotte imo. Bigger, better vision + passing, better shot, and better hands. Turcotte is better defensively, a better skater, and works harder.

 

[Raab]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

I've seen him a lot at the U18s and the Hlinka, but probably only 2-3 shift by shifts of him in the Allsvenskan. So not much, but I've got my concerns for sure.

I hope Holland knows what he's doing if Broberg is our pick.

 

[BudBundy]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

I’m not so much down on Broberg as I am uncertain about him. The guys that love him seem to love him a lot, but I havent read a scouting report that was convinced he had enough offense in him to rate him that high. From a needs point of view, we need a Kyle Connor a lot more than we need a poor mans Oscar Klefbom. Holland is Holland and I’m just a doorknob on the internet, so if it happens I’ll wait and see, but it just seems far from ideal. I’d feel better if they traded down to get him.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

I've seen him a lot at the U18s and the Hlinka, but probably only 2-3 shift by shifts of him in the Allsvenskan. So not much, but I've got my concerns for sure.

I hope Holland knows what he's doing if Broberg is our pick.

He doesn't. He drafted Michael Rasmussen and gave both Justin Abdelkader and Jonathan Ericsson a NTC. The only thing good about him is that he doesn't lose trades as hard as Chiaturd.

 

[Titsuple]

What time does the draft start?

 

[FlameChampion]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

Well to be honest, Holland has watched a ton of the US guys. I am not sure how extensively the Oilers scout the swedish league but I doubt its as extensive as north american. I am sure Kretzky and Green have watched the WHL kids a lot. Holland probably has Detroits drafting list as well, so its possible that Detroit was high on Broberg but I cant personally see the Oilers being that high on him. I just think Holland is going to lean towards an american kid (with the first pick) unless KG/BG convinces him to go with a WHL kid.

 

[FlameChampion]

What time does the draft start?

Starts at 6pm mountain which means the first pick will be at 6:35 probably.

 

[Raab]

Well to be honest, Holland has watched a ton of the US guys. I am not sure how extensively the Oilers scout the swedish league but I doubt its as extensive as north american. I am sure Kretzky and Green have watched the WHL kids a lot. Holland probably has Detroits drafting list as well, so its possible that Detroit was high on Broberg but I cant personally see the Oilers being that high on him. I just think Holland is going to lean towards an american kid (with the first pick) unless KG/BG convinces him to go with a WHL kid.

I think theyre leaning towards Boldy anyways from whats coming out of the organization about wanting NHL ready players.

In saying that if we were to trade the pick to Vegas would anyone be opposed to 8th+Yamamoto+Manning for Tuch, Miller, Subban? Team looks like this:

RNH-Mcdavid-Kassian
Chiasson-Draisaitl-Tuch
Benson-Marody-Gagner
Khaira-Brodziak-Cave

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Miller
Sekera-Russell
Benning

Koskinen
Subban

 

[FlameChampion]

I think theyre leaning towards Boldy anyways from whats coming out of the organization about wanting NHL ready players.

In saying that if we were to trade the pick to Vegas would anyone be opposed to 8th+Yamamoto+Manning for Tuch, Miller, Subban? Team looks like this:

RNH-Mcdavid-Kassian
Chiasson-Draisaitl-Tuch
Benson-Marody-Gagner
Khaira-Brodziak-Cave

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Miller
Sekera-Russell
Benning

Koskinen
Subban

I just dont see Holland trading the pick. He believes in drafting, development and patience. I dont think hes looking to wave a magic wand and for quick fixes.

 

[BarDownBobo]

He reminds me of Ty Rattie, and I'm not even afraid of the blow back from the comparison. North-south speed, not very lateral in his skating, is always on the top end of his gear and isn't necessarily looking for the next play.

There's a great video breakdown on his prospects page, and his play-style reminded me of Ty 100%.

That is a bizarre comparison. Rattie is a guy who was billed as all offense, questionable work ethic away from the puck and not a strong skater; whereas Podkolzin is a guy who is living off of his work ethic and skating and the offense is what everyone is worried about. They’re basically polar opposites honestly.

 

[Aerchon]

Lol how has Yamamoto been ineffective? He's 20 years old and he was decent in his time in the AHL when he wasn't injured. It was his first pro year relax

The guy was spoon fed prime minutes with McDavid and couldn't score to save his life.

I agree he has tons of time and is by no means a bust, exaggerating, but I feel I could have provided more offense that he did playing with the best player in the world.

I think a player like Yamamoto or Caufield, drafted purely for offense, need to be better than Yamamoto has shown to date. His size makes him so ineffective at the pro level... so far.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The guy was spoon fed prime minutes with McDavid and couldn't score to save his life.

I agree he has tons of time and is by no means a bust, exaggerating, but I feel I could have provided more offense that he did playing with the best player in the world.

I think a player like Yamamoto or Caufield, drafted purely for offense, need to be better than Yamamoto has shown to date. His size makes him so ineffective at the pro level... so far.

"19/20 year old mid first round pick doesn't immediately have success in the NHL, Bust expected" Breaking News.

 

[Draiskull]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

imagine this board if one of Turcotte, Dach, Zegras, Byram falls to 8 and we pick Broberg.

 

[CycloneSweep]

It'd be nice to know how much of Broberg the guys down on him have seen? I trust Holland with whoever he takes, in my limited views of Broberg I can say he looks every bit as talented as any of the other prospects available at 8.

People high on him seem to have really only watched international play. People lower on him watched his play overseas. At least from the scouts I have read stuff on.