2019 Draft Discussion

[kings11]

#5) Bowen Byram
#24) Bobby Brink
#33) John Beecher

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Byram is a pipe dream at this point with how he's shown lately, especially given the teams ahead of us are mostly hurting for defense.

 

[kovacro]

My Prediction:
1. NJD Hughes
2. NYR Kakko
3. CHI Podkolzin/Dach/Turcotte*
4. COL Dach/Turcotte**
5. LAK Byram***

*Chicago has used all their top picks on Dmen in the last two drafts:
2018 1st: Adam Boqvist (Defenseman)
2018 2nd: Nicolas Beaudin (Defenseman)
2017 1st: Henri Jokiharju (Defenseman)
2017 2nd: Ian Mitchell (Defenseman)
After all those picks used on defense I think they'll draft a forward.

**Colorado will most likely take a forward. They want someone who can get to the NHL quickly as they think they can contend now (all thier core players are entering their prime). Plus they already have Makar so Byram could be redundant. I don't think they take Podkolzin because his path to the NHL could be longer.

***That means Byram falls to the Kings. He's the #2 ranked N.A. skater so he'd be BPA. I think in recent drafts the Kings focused on forwards because they wanted players who could get to the NHL fast and help our aging core make one last run. It sounds like management has given up on that, so drafting a Dman makes more sense now. Plus Byram is one of the youngest of the top prospects and the Kings have favored some younger players in recent drafts.

IF the Avs draft a forward, he won’t be in the NHL next year regardless so I could see them drafting Bynam to pair him with Makar. That could be a deadly combo in the near future. It’s never redundant to have 2 cornerstone potential studs in your lineup that can patrol your defence for the next 8-10 years like the Hawks had with Keith and Seabrook.

Their depth on defense in the NHL and AHL is average, at best.

They have some decent organizational depth at the centre position behind McKinnon.

Easier to acquire help upfront as opposed to trying to acquire top end talent on the back end.

There seem to be rumours the last few years about them dealing Barrie. I’m sure if that happens, a solid forward piece would come back.

I would almost wonder with all that potential cap space they will have this summer if they go after a guy like Gardiner or even Edler.

 

[kings11]

Byram is a pipe dream at this point with how he's shown lately, especially given the teams ahead of us are mostly hurting for defense.

I agree ... unfortunately for us we fell to our current spot but we are guaranteed a shot at Dach, Cozens, Turcotte and Podzolkin..
I wonder if we have any chance at Adam Fox next year since he seems unlikely to sign in Carolina and we’ll have a few spots up for grabs

 

[johnjm22]

IF the Avs draft a forward, he won’t be in the NHL next year regardless so I could see them drafting Bynam to pair him with Makar. That could be a deadly combo in the near future. It’s never redundant to have 2 cornerstone potential studs in your lineup that can patrol your defence for the next 8-10 years like the Hawks had with Keith and Seabrook.

Right, but a forward is still likely to get the NHL quicker, and be an impact player sooner. If you go to the Avs board you'll see they want a forward. Fans that follow their organization closely have a good concept of what they need.

Then the there's the Hawks who have used their last 3 first round picks on dmen, and all of their first and second round picks in the last two drafts on dmen. They haven't taken a forward in the first round since 2014 and their pipeline is severely lacking in good forward prospects.

So I'm saying I can see a scenario in which both teams draft forwards.

 

[kovacro]

I can see the Hawks going for a forward as they have some good young kids in the pipeline, one of which we saw this year in Jokiharju.

Boqvist looks like he could be a good one. Saw him earlier this year when I went to London.

I’m also intrigued by Chad Krys.

They certainly have pieces back there.

It’s the Avs where I can see them going for Bynam. I look at their AHL club and reserve list and I don’t really see a defense prospect that jumps out and to find a partner to pair with Makar seems logical which is why I could see that scenario.

We’ll see how it shakes out in June.

 

[RocketKing]

If Byram is as advertised and a true legit top Dman then we should consider moving some of our younger high end prospect talent to get him. Maybe he's the next Scott Niedermayer?

There will be 3-4 players that comes down to 3 teams (LA, Chi, Colo). Blake could work a deal to Chicago where we move Cleague + 5OA for their 3OA?

Its a clear upgrade for us and for Chicago they can still get to pick from 3 of these 4 after Colorado - Pod, Cozens, Turcotte, Dach.

I would be open to these kind of moved where our young talent/prospects are on the table if it means we are getting one of these Elite Players.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

If Byram is as advertised and a true legit top Dman then we should consider moving some of our younger high end prospect talent to get him. Maybe he's the next Scott Niedermayer?

There will be 3-4 players that comes down to 3 teams (LA, Chi, Colo). Blake could work a deal to Chicago where we move Cleague + 5OA for their 3OA?

Its a clear upgrade for us and for Chicago they can still get to pick from 3 of these 4 after Colorado - Pod, Cozens, Turcotte, Dach.

I would be open to these kind of moved where our young talent/prospects are on the table if it means we are getting one of these Elite Players.

No to this for sure This team is in no position to move up giving up what little prospects its does have. If hes there when we draft great but i doubt he will be and i sure as hell hope we don't waste assets to move up to get him. This team needs goals and some top end forwards

 

[AzKing]

If Byram is as advertised and a true legit top Dman then we should consider moving some of our younger high end prospect talent to get him. Maybe he's the next Scott Niedermayer?

There will be 3-4 players that comes down to 3 teams (LA, Chi, Colo). Blake could work a deal to Chicago where we move Cleague + 5OA for their 3OA?

Its a clear upgrade for us and for Chicago they can still get to pick from 3 of these 4 after Colorado - Pod, Cozens, Turcotte, Dach.

I would be open to these kind of moved where our young talent/prospects are on the table if it means we are getting one of these Elite Players.

No, you don't move Clague for that. That's such an extreme overpay.

 

[No Name The Nameless]

Is Clague any good? I know he can play offense but his defense is not good from what I've heard and his injuries seem to have hurt his value. I could be way off

 

[AzKing]

Is Clague any good? I know he can play offense but his defense is not good from what I've heard and his injuries seem to have hurt his value. I could be way off

Yeah, he is a good player:

LA Kings: Kale Clague Skates Like The Wind, But Will Likely Do So in the AHL This Season

LA Kings 2019 Midseason Prospect Rankings: Nos. 5 and 6

 

[kings11]

Yeah, he is a good player:

LA Kings: Kale Clague Skates Like The Wind, But Will Likely Do So in the AHL This Season

LA Kings 2019 Midseason Prospect Rankings: Nos. 5 and 6

We currently have 2 stud defenseman that will be in Ontario this season and none of them are expendable!
Tier 1
Kale Clague
Mikey Anderson
Tier 2
Markus Phillips
Daniel Brickley
Tier 3
Austin Stand
Unknown
Sean Durzi
For this team, that’s a nice collection of defenseman closing in on being NHL ready!
Sorry to high Jack your post AzK

 

[AzKing]

We currently have 2 stud defenseman that will be in Ontario this season and none of them are expendable!
Tier 1
Kale Clague
Mikey Anderson
Tier 2
Markus Phillips
Daniel Brickley
Tier 3
Austin Stand
Unknown
Sean Durzi
For this team, that’s a nice collection of defenseman closing in on being NHL ready!
Sorry to high Jack your post AzK

Great breakdown. It really summarizes our depth.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Lack of depth ?

 

[crassbonanza]

We currently have 2 stud defenseman that will be in Ontario this season and none of them are expendable!
Tier 1
Kale Clague
Mikey Anderson
Tier 2
Markus Phillips
Daniel Brickley
Tier 3
Austin Stand
Unknown
Sean Durzi
For this team, that’s a nice collection of defenseman closing in on being NHL ready!
Sorry to high Jack your post AzK

Why are you so low on Durzi? From all accounts he is excelling this season and has potential to be a top 4 powerplay quarterback

 

[kings11]

Why are you so low on Durzi? From all accounts he is excelling this season and has potential to be a top 4 powerplay quarterback

I put him as an unknown because he need to see what he can do in the AHL first but seeing how he's going on 21 YO he should be physically mature so his game could translate sooner but until then he's a mystery.. for now

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Why are you so low on Durzi? From all accounts he is excelling this season and has potential to be a top 4 powerplay quarterback

Reports from scouts say that he has to get stronger and that he has a long way to go defensively. I think 2 years of AHL can help with that...as with all defensemen coming in...but Durzi'stalent level and skating, puck skills and puck moving skills will get him to the NHL. Just seems to be a 2-3 year process and that's fine. Big payoff down the road. There was a quote from an OHL opponent, that The Mayor got, in which the player said Durzi is strong on his skates, hard to hit...and does not want him to have the puck, because he does good things with it. I think he will make it...just may need 2-3 yrs.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

IF the Avs draft a forward, he won’t be in the NHL next year regardless so I could see them drafting Bynam to pair him with Makar. That could be a deadly combo in the near future. It’s never redundant to have 2 cornerstone potential studs in your lineup that can patrol your defence for the next 8-10 years like the Hawks had with Keith and Seabrook.

Their depth on defense in the NHL and AHL is average, at best.

They have some decent organizational depth at the centre position behind McKinnon.

Easier to acquire help upfront as opposed to trying to acquire top end talent on the back end.

There seem to be rumours the last few years about them dealing Barrie. I’m sure if that happens, a solid forward piece would come back.

I would almost wonder with all that potential cap space they will have this summer if they go after a guy like Gardiner or even Edler.

The thing about the AVs...if they draft forward at #4, they hold the (currently) #16 overall pick and 1 of either Soderstrom, Broberg, Harley fall to them.
They could end up with: Podkolzin / Turcotte / Cozens / Dach and a top rated defenseman...if they want a future franchise goalie, they can get Spencer Knight
with their #1. May actually be shrewd.

or, they draft Byram (if he's there at 4) and at 16 (or wherever it ends up) select Kaliyev or Caulfield.
Things look bright in Colorado. Maybe Spencer Knight would be an astute selection with their 2nd 1st rounder. You cannot win Cups without stellar goalttending...add Makar and Turcotte...and then Knight...who in 2-3 yrs is your franchise goalie.

 

[RocketKing]

We currently have 2 stud defenseman that will be in Ontario this season and none of them are expendable!
Tier 1
Kale Clague
Mikey Anderson
Tier 2
Markus Phillips
Daniel Brickley
Tier 3
Austin Stand
Unknown
Sean Durzi
For this team, that’s a nice collection of defenseman closing in on being NHL ready!
Sorry to high Jack your post AzK

I can appreciate the passion about our hard earned development assets being moved but even Gretzky gets Traded. We now have 8 dmen who may all be NHL material - Cleague, Anderson, Phillips, Brickly, Walker, Durzi, Ryan, and Ladue. Not all of them can play & I'm hoping we actually get more if we get the pick (Byram).

If moving Cleage (Anderson is the better player from my POV) gets us an ELITE Player then we should be open to that. Players like this we won't have access to in the draft black hole of mediocrity.

If Byram does become the next Scott Niedermayer then he will be untouchable.

If we had 2 Elite Dmen on this Team we would be well on our path to contention.

We appear to be assembling an assortment of many pieces and there isn't room for all those that have NHL potential so 2 for 1 deals for legit Elite players should be also being considered. That's where I'm coming from.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Sounds crazy, but almost easier to select 5 than 3 in this draft. At 3, who is best to select? (with Kings only in mind) Podkolzin? (probably not, with Vilardi a possible non future and issue with him not coming over for certain) Turcotte, Cozens, Dach or Byram? At #5, 2 of these 5 are gone and you're down to the best of the 3. You're going to get a great prospect. May be easier to choose from 3 than 5.
But of course, better to have #3.

 

[Choralone]

Keep our picks and trade roster players for more. There is no shortcut that involves moving picks or young prospects to move up in the draft. We only do that when we're looking to add the cherry on top of the sundae we're building.

 

[riznat]

We currently have 2 stud defenseman that will be in Ontario this season and none of them are expendable!
Tier 1
Kale Clague
Mikey Anderson
Tier 2
Markus Phillips
Daniel Brickley
Tier 3
Austin Stand
Unknown
Sean Durzi
For this team, that’s a nice collection of defenseman closing in on being NHL ready!
Sorry to high Jack your post AzK

Im hoping Durzi ends up higher but probably a pipe dream

 

[Jason Squirties]

You heard it here, this is how the first 5 picks will go down:

1. Jack Hughes (Given)
2. Kaapo Kakko (Given)
3. Chicago will take Dylan Cozens(Big Strong stud Center down the middle which Chicago needs)
4. Avalanche will take Podkolkin (Sakic loves forwards and plus they already have Makar)
5. KINGS here ya go drum roll......will take Bowen Byrem. Too good to pass up although we need
forwards I think Blake and company will take Byrem.

There you go folks no need speculating the prophecy has spoken. Now in saying this I'll probably be completely wrong but seeing that it looks good to me I'm sticking with it.

Says the guy that jinxed us with a Lose for Hughes av

 

[SFKingshomer]

Here at the Sioux Falls Stampede playoff game. 1 of the better kids is Ryan Johnson....son of Craig Johnson. He should be available with the Leafs 1st or the Kings 2nd.

The goalie is Jaxon Stauber, son of blueline!

 

[Reaper45]

Here at the Sioux Falls Stampede playoff game. 1 of the better kids is Ryan Johnson....son of Craig Johnson. He should be available with the Leafs 1st or the Kings 2nd.

The goalie is Jaxon Stauber, son of blueline!

god were getting old!