Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall
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Yanetti was quoted yesterday and full of praise for Caufield again. He went on and on about how he is a pure scorer who will translate to the NHL level. I think BLuc is willing to draft the player most ready to play in the nhl next year.
By all reports, that’s Byram, based on where the Kings are picking, both he and a Caufield could be available. Maybe a promise to play with Kopitar gets the kid to skip college.
By all reports, that’s Byram, based on where the Kings are picking, both he and a Caufield could be available. Maybe a promise to play with Kopitar gets the kid to skip college.
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Yes...the Black Hawks have recently drafted 5 defensemen in the first and second rounds the last 3 drafts: 2016 #45 overall Chad Krys, 2017 #29 Henri Jokiharju #57 Ian Mitchell 2018 #8 Adam Boqvist #27 Nicolas Beaudin ...AND today, just traded for Penguin, 24 yr old, LHD Oilli Maata. They are loaded with young defensemen now. Hoping hoping hoping they want Dach, Turcotte, Cozens or Zegras (and the AVS want one of them as well) and Byram falls to the Kings!
https://www.tsn.ca/chicago-blackhaw...a-in-trade-with-pittsburgh-penguins-1.1323311
https://www.tsn.ca/chicago-blackhaw...a-in-trade-with-pittsburgh-penguins-1.1323311
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I love all the interviews coming out from teams this time of year about the players in the draft. They all seem to be pumping up players they’re not gonna draft in the hopes of another team picking them allowing your team to select their preferred player. But then again, it seems like all the teams do it which means it probably cancels out that theory.
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If we do get Byram it would make the sting of getting screwed in the lottery a little less painful. Chicago has allot invested in the future D pipeline and the Avs are clearly 1 or 2 legit offensive players away from actual Cup contention so hopefully they keep their pick and take Cozens or Dach.
Ziggy Stardust
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I think Byram's stock is through the roof right now. I can't see Chicago and Colorado ignoring that regardless of need. If he falls to us, it would be a dream come true and would definitely take a little bit of sting out of losing out on the top 2. It could even be a blessing in disguise by kind of forcing the Kings to build from the net on out again despite us being desperately starved for skill up front.
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Ziggy Stardust
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Mishandling defensemen and trading them for crap was LA's specialty back then.
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When I see skating as a big "If" with a 5'8 165lb guy, it makes me pause. If a guy is that small, he can't have skating be an issue even if he is really smart. Maybe he can improve on it.
Here is what McKeen's said:
When he keeps his feet working, he shows his vision for
linemates and has the ability to hit them with well-timed passes both short and long.
That note about his feet is also why we could not rank Brink in the first round (pretty
close, though!).
Simply put, his skating is a bit of a let-down. Bigger, more forceful players can get away
with it, but I am not as sure that Brink will find the next level so easy. His top speed is
OK, but he lacks explosiveness or any type of second gear. Young players can get faster
with the right training, but he has a way to go in this area. He is incredibly smart and is
able to mitigate some of his speed concerns through positioning and anticipation, but
he will need to prove that those reads will be as useful to him at the next level. We have
confidence in him, but not enough to advocate for a Day One pick.
Craig Custance had a good comparison article in the Athletic. Here are some notable guys we have discussed for our first round picks:
Alex Turcotte
NHL player comparable: Sidney Crosby with a hint of Brad Marchand
The breakdown: “A lot of people are trying to compare him to (Jonathan)Toews. Toews is much sturdier and simpler. (Turcotte) has that pestering ability like Marchand does. Not to that end but I’m not sure that won’t be Turcotte in 10 years when guys have been playing against him for a long time. We get a small sample size of three or four games against Youngstown and those guys hate him. … Sid’s goals come in tight. Turcotte and he also have that similar skill set, like ‘How did that go in the net from two feet away?’ They both have that capability. And that mentality to win. That’s something that burns.”
Trevor Zegras
NHL player comparable: A mix of Clayton Keller and Patrick Kane
The breakdown: “(Zegras’) defining elements are that creativity that bubble up out of nowhere. Kane would be the closest to that. They make the almost impossible plays, they make it look routine. Their improvisation, the saucer passes and spin-o-ramas that happen on a whim. It looks like something that’s been orchestrated or set up. It happens all the time.”
Cole Caufield
NHL player comparable: Alex Ovechkin
The breakdown: “He’s a miniature version of Ovi. He’ll score every single way but they both have that campout spot on the back side. If you leave them alone any other spot, they’re equally as dangerous. They’ll both score back door. The difference is 120 pounds or something. But you’ve got a mini-Ovechkin. The similarity is how the puck explodes off their stick. Once you get Cole into the dots and hash marks, they’re similar.”
Matthew Boldy
NHL player comparable: Marian Hossa
The breakdown: “It’s perfect. It’s a great throwback reference to a guy who plays a modern game but is supremely dedicated to 200 feet and works that transition game to his overall attack. His seek and destroy mentality is very unique – the way that he lifts sticks and goes the other way and catches teams off guard. There must be a dozen clips of us scoring off his backcheck in two years.”
Bowen Byram
NHL player comparable: Drew Doughty
The breakdown: “He’s got swagger like Doughty does. He’ll stick you behind the play. He has that fierce look in his eyes. He’s an elite defenseman. That edge is what you want to have. If you look at all the top players around the league, they all have that edge and killer instinct. It doesn’t have to be dirty, but when the game is on the line, they’re stepping up and making the play.”
Dylan Cozens
NHL player comparable: Patrice Bergeron
The breakdown: “He’s a hard one. I would say he’s got quiet skills. Great skater. He does everything well. Bergeron is so smart, he has skill but you don’t sit there and go ‘he has top-five skill in the league.’ Cozens has a lot of underwhelming qualities that equal a really, really good player.”
Philip Broberg
NHL player comparable: Brady Skjei
The breakdown: “I don’t see him as a one or two, I see him more as a four or five. I know people love him, though. You’d love for him to be Victor Hedman, but I think Brady Skjei is more of what you’re going to get. Broberg is such a polarizing player. People either love him or question some of his things. I think his hockey sense can get him in trouble at times, but if you’re big and can skate, you can play.
Kirby Dach
NHL player comparable: Ryan Getzlaf
The breakdown: “It’s going to take time to grow into his big frame, but with the way he shoots the puck, I see a lot of Getzlaf. His consistency was in and out but he’s also a kid. Comes from a great hockey background. He’s got No. 1 center, power forward skill set – that whole package.”
Alex Newhook
NHL player comparable: Cam Atkinson
The breakdown: “He’s an interesting one because he’s in the middle of the ice and can shoot and score. He’s a good player. He’s his own player. I think he can score like Atkinson. He has that quick release. He can get himself in and out of traffic to score goals and can shoot the puck.”
Arthur Kaliyev
NHL player comparable: Phil Kessel
The breakdown: “He just scores. Kaliyev has some holes in his game. He doesn’t love to play D. Doesn’t always look like he’s working. If he has a split second to score a goal, he’s going to score a goal. He knows how to score.”
Ryan Suzuki
NHL player comparable: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
The breakdown: “He’s a second-line center. Doesn’t love to go to the hard areas. He does a lot of stuff on the perimeter. Unreal hockey IQ and can make plays. I would like him to be a little more competitive. Skill and sense, there’s a lot of good here and he’s a No. 2 center if everything goes well.”
Alex Turcotte
NHL player comparable: Sidney Crosby with a hint of Brad Marchand
The breakdown: “A lot of people are trying to compare him to (Jonathan)Toews. Toews is much sturdier and simpler. (Turcotte) has that pestering ability like Marchand does. Not to that end but I’m not sure that won’t be Turcotte in 10 years when guys have been playing against him for a long time. We get a small sample size of three or four games against Youngstown and those guys hate him. … Sid’s goals come in tight. Turcotte and he also have that similar skill set, like ‘How did that go in the net from two feet away?’ They both have that capability. And that mentality to win. That’s something that burns.”
Trevor Zegras
NHL player comparable: A mix of Clayton Keller and Patrick Kane
The breakdown: “(Zegras’) defining elements are that creativity that bubble up out of nowhere. Kane would be the closest to that. They make the almost impossible plays, they make it look routine. Their improvisation, the saucer passes and spin-o-ramas that happen on a whim. It looks like something that’s been orchestrated or set up. It happens all the time.”
Cole Caufield
NHL player comparable: Alex Ovechkin
The breakdown: “He’s a miniature version of Ovi. He’ll score every single way but they both have that campout spot on the back side. If you leave them alone any other spot, they’re equally as dangerous. They’ll both score back door. The difference is 120 pounds or something. But you’ve got a mini-Ovechkin. The similarity is how the puck explodes off their stick. Once you get Cole into the dots and hash marks, they’re similar.”
Matthew Boldy
NHL player comparable: Marian Hossa
The breakdown: “It’s perfect. It’s a great throwback reference to a guy who plays a modern game but is supremely dedicated to 200 feet and works that transition game to his overall attack. His seek and destroy mentality is very unique – the way that he lifts sticks and goes the other way and catches teams off guard. There must be a dozen clips of us scoring off his backcheck in two years.”
Bowen Byram
NHL player comparable: Drew Doughty
The breakdown: “He’s got swagger like Doughty does. He’ll stick you behind the play. He has that fierce look in his eyes. He’s an elite defenseman. That edge is what you want to have. If you look at all the top players around the league, they all have that edge and killer instinct. It doesn’t have to be dirty, but when the game is on the line, they’re stepping up and making the play.”
Dylan Cozens
NHL player comparable: Patrice Bergeron
The breakdown: “He’s a hard one. I would say he’s got quiet skills. Great skater. He does everything well. Bergeron is so smart, he has skill but you don’t sit there and go ‘he has top-five skill in the league.’ Cozens has a lot of underwhelming qualities that equal a really, really good player.”
Philip Broberg
NHL player comparable: Brady Skjei
The breakdown: “I don’t see him as a one or two, I see him more as a four or five. I know people love him, though. You’d love for him to be Victor Hedman, but I think Brady Skjei is more of what you’re going to get. Broberg is such a polarizing player. People either love him or question some of his things. I think his hockey sense can get him in trouble at times, but if you’re big and can skate, you can play.
Kirby Dach
NHL player comparable: Ryan Getzlaf
The breakdown: “It’s going to take time to grow into his big frame, but with the way he shoots the puck, I see a lot of Getzlaf. His consistency was in and out but he’s also a kid. Comes from a great hockey background. He’s got No. 1 center, power forward skill set – that whole package.”
Alex Newhook
NHL player comparable: Cam Atkinson
The breakdown: “He’s an interesting one because he’s in the middle of the ice and can shoot and score. He’s a good player. He’s his own player. I think he can score like Atkinson. He has that quick release. He can get himself in and out of traffic to score goals and can shoot the puck.”
Arthur Kaliyev
NHL player comparable: Phil Kessel
The breakdown: “He just scores. Kaliyev has some holes in his game. He doesn’t love to play D. Doesn’t always look like he’s working. If he has a split second to score a goal, he’s going to score a goal. He knows how to score.”
Ryan Suzuki
NHL player comparable: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
The breakdown: “He’s a second-line center. Doesn’t love to go to the hard areas. He does a lot of stuff on the perimeter. Unreal hockey IQ and can make plays. I would like him to be a little more competitive. Skill and sense, there’s a lot of good here and he’s a No. 2 center if everything goes well.”
Here are a few more:
Philip Tomasino
NHL player comparable: Claude Giroux
The breakdown: “He’s so good at stripping pucks. He’s skilled, smart, elusive, sneaky skill. I think he could be a No. 1 center. He’s a good player. A really good player.”
Thomas Harley
NHL player comparable: Thomas Chabot
The breakdown: “I like him a lot. Chabot fell in his draft year because he wasn’t always hard to play against and wasn’t always engaged in battles. But now, it doesn’t really matter. The offense, the way (Harley) surveys the blue line, the way he walks the line – there’s a lot of similarities.”
Moritz Seider
NHL player comparable: Anton Stralman
The breakdown: “He’s top four. Right-handed shot. Mobile. Is he offensive? I’m not sure. Can he make a good first pass? Yes.”
Victor Soderstrom
NHL player comparable: Roman Josi
The breakdown: “He’s another offensive player. He’s not Erik Karlsson. How offensive is he going to be? Who knows? He’s reliable. He’s dependable. He could be top 10 in the draft. He could be the second D off the board. Josi is a pretty good all-around defenseman who has some offense, too.”
Vasili Podkolzin
NHL player comparable: Vladimir Tarasenko
The breakdown: “It’s his willingness to go to the net to score goals. Everywhere he’s played this year, he’s produced. He’s powerful, he’s strong. He’s fearless when it comes to going to the net and he has a great shot.”
John Beecher
NHL player comparable: Chris Kreider
The breakdown: “Kreider or a young Patrick Marleau. He has speed to burn. He can absolutely fly. Guys would always talk about Marleau, how good his first two or three strides were and then it was top speed. Beecher is the same way. He can fly. His speed is undeniable. Flying around, crossing the net. It’s a real simple game but fun to watch.”
Spencer Knight
NHL player comparable: Tom Barrasso
The breakdown: “Everyone wants to go with Carey Price but with the way (Knight) plays the puck, you almost have to go back to Tom Barrasso, with his steadiness. He was another guy labeled as a prodigy, in the NHL at 18 (years old), tons of expectations. They have prowess playing the puck and their confidence is very similar.”
Henry Thrun
NHL player comparable: Ryan Suter
The breakdown: “There is such a unique subtlety to Thrunner’s game and every now and then something pops. It’s simple, simple, simple and then all of a sudden there’s a remarkable stretch pass in the middle of the ice. He’s like a QB in the West Coast offense – a bunch of seven-yard passes, clipping along at 70 percent and then there’s the play action and it’s down the field. He’s a simple, calculated player.”
Drew Helleson
NHL player comparable: Matt Niskanen
The breakdown: “There’s an undervalued competitor there. Hardly ever gets beat out of the line rush or in the corner. There’s a steadiness to his activity in the offensive end. He knows how to activate, when to join the rush. He’s an above average shot. Very sneaky skill set. If there ever was a sleeper in the draft, I’d say it’s him.
Cam York
NHL player comparable: Morgan Rielly
The breakdown: “There’s hardly anything that catches Rielly off guard. He seems to turn in flux situations into offensive opportunities. On the power play, he’s so natural to delegate – when the shot is there, he takes it. He’s efficient at using his flanks on the power play and keeping pucks alive. Yorkie has the same abilities.”
Alex Vlasic
NHL player comparable: Colton Parayko
The breakdown: “He’s a mix between Victor Hedman and a guy like Colton Parayko. Big. Sturdy. Athletic up and down the sheet. Can log huge minutes. … (Vlasic) has got a cannon. He changed his stick lie after last season. It was night and day with how he could operate with it. He’ll continue to get better He’s used that same stick for seven or eight years and now he changes. His hands and shot will continue to get better.”
Philip Tomasino
NHL player comparable: Claude Giroux
The breakdown: “He’s so good at stripping pucks. He’s skilled, smart, elusive, sneaky skill. I think he could be a No. 1 center. He’s a good player. A really good player.”
Thomas Harley
NHL player comparable: Thomas Chabot
The breakdown: “I like him a lot. Chabot fell in his draft year because he wasn’t always hard to play against and wasn’t always engaged in battles. But now, it doesn’t really matter. The offense, the way (Harley) surveys the blue line, the way he walks the line – there’s a lot of similarities.”
Moritz Seider
NHL player comparable: Anton Stralman
The breakdown: “He’s top four. Right-handed shot. Mobile. Is he offensive? I’m not sure. Can he make a good first pass? Yes.”
Victor Soderstrom
NHL player comparable: Roman Josi
The breakdown: “He’s another offensive player. He’s not Erik Karlsson. How offensive is he going to be? Who knows? He’s reliable. He’s dependable. He could be top 10 in the draft. He could be the second D off the board. Josi is a pretty good all-around defenseman who has some offense, too.”
Vasili Podkolzin
NHL player comparable: Vladimir Tarasenko
The breakdown: “It’s his willingness to go to the net to score goals. Everywhere he’s played this year, he’s produced. He’s powerful, he’s strong. He’s fearless when it comes to going to the net and he has a great shot.”
John Beecher
NHL player comparable: Chris Kreider
The breakdown: “Kreider or a young Patrick Marleau. He has speed to burn. He can absolutely fly. Guys would always talk about Marleau, how good his first two or three strides were and then it was top speed. Beecher is the same way. He can fly. His speed is undeniable. Flying around, crossing the net. It’s a real simple game but fun to watch.”
Spencer Knight
NHL player comparable: Tom Barrasso
The breakdown: “Everyone wants to go with Carey Price but with the way (Knight) plays the puck, you almost have to go back to Tom Barrasso, with his steadiness. He was another guy labeled as a prodigy, in the NHL at 18 (years old), tons of expectations. They have prowess playing the puck and their confidence is very similar.”
Henry Thrun
NHL player comparable: Ryan Suter
The breakdown: “There is such a unique subtlety to Thrunner’s game and every now and then something pops. It’s simple, simple, simple and then all of a sudden there’s a remarkable stretch pass in the middle of the ice. He’s like a QB in the West Coast offense – a bunch of seven-yard passes, clipping along at 70 percent and then there’s the play action and it’s down the field. He’s a simple, calculated player.”
Drew Helleson
NHL player comparable: Matt Niskanen
The breakdown: “There’s an undervalued competitor there. Hardly ever gets beat out of the line rush or in the corner. There’s a steadiness to his activity in the offensive end. He knows how to activate, when to join the rush. He’s an above average shot. Very sneaky skill set. If there ever was a sleeper in the draft, I’d say it’s him.
Cam York
NHL player comparable: Morgan Rielly
The breakdown: “There’s hardly anything that catches Rielly off guard. He seems to turn in flux situations into offensive opportunities. On the power play, he’s so natural to delegate – when the shot is there, he takes it. He’s efficient at using his flanks on the power play and keeping pucks alive. Yorkie has the same abilities.”
Alex Vlasic
NHL player comparable: Colton Parayko
The breakdown: “He’s a mix between Victor Hedman and a guy like Colton Parayko. Big. Sturdy. Athletic up and down the sheet. Can log huge minutes. … (Vlasic) has got a cannon. He changed his stick lie after last season. It was night and day with how he could operate with it. He’ll continue to get better He’s used that same stick for seven or eight years and now he changes. His hands and shot will continue to get better.”
Herby
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I'll be disappointed if the Kings don't end up with one of Byram, Turcotte or Caufield.
Really hoping Colorado or Chicago becomes enamored with one of the big WHL centers.
Really hoping Colorado or Chicago becomes enamored with one of the big WHL centers.
Is it only freakin Sunday. Sheesh. But I have a feeling Thomas Hickey pick coming up.
There is really nothing that would support them picking like that. That's a staff from quite awhile ago.
kovacro
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Just a reminder of how young some of these kids are. Look at that mug on Brink. Looks like he’s in grade 6.
Ziggy Stardust
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Just a reminder of how young some of these kids are. Look at that mug on Brink. Looks like he’s in grade 6.
Which makes his numbers kind of stand out a bit given how immature he appears to be physically. I don't know if he lasts until 22 or day two of the draft, but I wouldn't be upset if the Kings took him at 22 or 33. He's an unbelievable talent.
Take note of where he goes to score his goals. His physical stature doesn't appear to hinder him from driving to the net.
This blurb from the article I linked above perfectly summarizes his competitiveness.
"Bobby's a real competitive kid and he's ridiculously smart," said John Wroblewski, who coached Brink with the NTDP and at the World U-18 Championship. "He could pick up a drill or system tweak very quickly. He shows a lot of patience yet urgency in his game and reminds me a lot of Justin Williams of the Carolina Hurricanes."
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I would be happy if the Kings got him at #22...I live 6 miles from DU and would go there often and watch him this season and report back on him.
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The thing with Colorado though, is they also have pick #16. They could get Cozens / Dach / Zegras (or Turcotte, if Chicago took Byram) at #4 and then get a top defenseman
at 16 in Soderstrom, Broberg, Harley or York. With picks 4 and 16, they will do well.
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I am really hoping Byram drops to us. The one thing we have been missing is a true PP QB. It would be great to get one with a left shot so DD can remain out there as well.
I know Byram is a few years away from being that guy but he would be a great all around partner for DD for many years to come. Doughty’s defensive prowess Would let Byram gamble a wee bit more than usual.
I know Byram is a few years away from being that guy but he would be a great all around partner for DD for many years to come. Doughty’s defensive prowess Would let Byram gamble a wee bit more than usual.
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