Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

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kings11

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Couple things on Caufield:

According to this post, Caufield said on the radio he did not meet with the Kings at the Combine, but he met with them last week: F Cole Caufield - USNTDP Juniors, USHL (2019 Draft)

I'm also trying to find it again on Twitter, but I don't know how reliable the person was; he said according to a source, the Blackhawks are leaning towards Caufield at #3.

Again, not sure if it's true.

If Caufield goes #3.. You can expect there to be a trade frenzy by teams to try and move up...
Turcotte likely would go to the Avs and Byram to the Kings then you'd have hat next tier thta's 10-15 deep..
Imagine if we land Byram and Newhook
 

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At this point reading all the articles there’s about 10 guys I could see going to us at number five. All 10 have some definite highlight and high-end probabilities and all 10 I have some warts.

It seems that no matter who we pick, we will definitely be getting an NHL player. The question is what is the ceiling on this player wants to hit the NHL.

I am going to try not to get too high or low when we make the pick as I thought we stole Vilardi a few years back and I am now greatly disappointed. I am trying to stay optimistic but every couple months I go by the optimism dims.

It seems every year I get tunnel vision to two or three players I want to Kings to pick and every year there are players picked after them that exceeded my expectations and many of times there are players picked before the Kings pick that I wanted to have the Kings pick that didn’t live up to expectations.

Five years from now we may look back and wonder how our second round pick is twice the player or fifth overall pick was. One never knows. There are many prospects to be excited about this year and I actually cannot wait to watch the draft unfold.
 

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That Athletic/Pronman Cozens article made me even lower on him.

He'll be an NHLer, I just can't get past the limited upside imo. Only thing that makes me think even remotely otherwise is TG. But otherwise he's just Carter/Wheeler with a mediocre shot.
You think that would not be awesome, RC ?
 

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You know, if Turcotte and Byram go three and four, I’m kind of easing into the idea of taking Caufield at five. We have Kopitar locked up for the foreseeable future and guys like Vilardi, Kupari, JAD, and Thomas that could fill the 2C.

Broberg, Seider, or Harley would be a pretty good choice at 21. Or take another winger. Brink? Suzuki? Poulin?
 

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You think that would not be awesome, RC ?

Maybe that came off wrong, didn't meant to suggest at all he'd be as productive as either guy at their best. I Just see him as a 2C/1W where I see the other options there as 1Cs.

My point isn't that he's bad, kind of the opposite--I think he has the greatest chance to be a good NHLer, but the lowest ceiling, and if we're picking that high, I don't want the 'safe' guy. I don't feel like Cozens brings enough creativity, offense, high-end IQ to change the franchise.
 

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Apparently Jack Hughes not doing the combine testing.

His brother didn't, either.

I know that he's the top player and the Combine physical testing doesn't mean much, but I still find that pretty disappointing and questionable if it's not injury related.

Edit: Maybe it's just me, but I'm also pretty sick of people being afraid to say anything negative about Jack Hughes. People are tweeting "Jack said he didn't prepare for the physical testing at all with all the different tournaments, so it's like taking a test he didn't study for. Great answer."





Why is that a great answer and a smart decision? It's not like he didn't know exactly what they would be testing throughout the year, his brother skipped out on the testing before, and it's not a knowledge/prep thing, anyways. It's using muscles he has been using.
 
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Apparently Jack Hughes not doing the combine testing.

His brother didn't, either.

I know that he's the top player and the Combine physical testing doesn't mean much, but I still find that pretty disappointing and questionable if it's not injury related
I see it as it would only hurt his stock, he's a little guy and hasn't physically matured much. If he can't bench 150 or doesn't have a good jump it just looks bad. Just leave it up to what he's already shown, great move by his agent.

Edit: Im not saying that I like him doing it, I just understand why.
 
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I hope Blake can somehow add another first round pick, the more I read about this draft class the more I like it. If he can add another pick in the 10-20 range it would be huge for the club. The only team that could really move their pick in that range would be the Avs at 16.

I could see Min, Fla, Habs, Vegas, Dal all willing to move to 22 if we gave them something good to go with it
 

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Sorry, but this kid is a midget. I wish him well, but I hope the Kings don't take him with the #5 pick. Yes, he might light it up in the regular season, but the playoffs are a big man's game.

Take a look at the St. Louis roster. Not a single skater under 190 lbs. and most around 200 lbs. Boston has a couple of 175 lbs. players with the rest approaching 190 lbs. Guys like Johnny Hockey may be fun and flashy during the regular season, but they don't win playoff games.

Unless Caufield is the next coming of Patrick Kane (5-10, 177 lbs), and he is not, it's Pasedena on this kid for me.
 

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Sorry, but this kid is a midget. I wish him well, but I hope the Kings don't take him with the #5 pick. Yes, he might light it up in the regular season, but the playoffs are a big man's game.

Take a look at the St. Louis roster. Not a single skater under 190 lbs. and most around 200 lbs. Boston has a couple of 175 lbs. players with the rest approaching 190 lbs. Guys like Johnny Hockey may be fun and flashy during the regular season, but they don't win playoff games.

Unless Caufield is the next coming of Patrick Kane (5-10, 177 lbs), and he is not, it's Pasedena on this kid for me.
Agreed. People constantly talked the league was changing. To certain extent that is true but lets not overreact.

Big players with skill still have advantages.
 

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Sorry, but this kid is a midget. I wish him well, but I hope the Kings don't take him with the #5 pick. Yes, he might light it up in the regular season, but the playoffs are a big man's game.

Guys like Johnny Hockey may be fun and flashy during the regular season, but they don't win playoff games.

You mean the playoffs we’ve missed three out of the past five years? Sure would be nice if we also had a few regular season performers.
 

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Sorry, but this kid is a midget. I wish him well, but I hope the Kings don't take him with the #5 pick. Yes, he might light it up in the regular season, but the playoffs are a big man's game.

Take a look at the St. Louis roster. Not a single skater under 190 lbs. and most around 200 lbs. Boston has a couple of 175 lbs. players with the rest approaching 190 lbs. Guys like Johnny Hockey may be fun and flashy during the regular season, but they don't win playoff games.

Unless Caufield is the next coming of Patrick Kane (5-10, 177 lbs), and he is not, it's Pasedena on this kid for me.
Supposedly one of the reasons the blues went big was because of the Kings.

But don't forget about Martin St. Louis.
 
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Caufield measured in at 5'7.25" and 163 lbs. Looks lean and strong. Can probably get to 170/175 with the right training. Also did 16 pull-ups, which is extremely impressive even given his size.

I don't think he'll be pushed around as easily as people think.
 

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Not really concerned with Coalfield's size. I would more worry about his hockey IQ and can he make plays at speed. Patrick Kane gets away with being small cause he has hockey savant like IQ and is 3 steps ahead of defenders in the thinking game IE incredibly shifty. That's what I would concern myself with when in comes to Caufield.

If Caufield is the type of player that doesn't create his own offense, I would pass. If you're going to be on the smaller side, you need to be able create your own offense, cause bigger defenders are going to push you out of the scoring areas in the NHL.
 
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You mean the playoffs we’ve missed three out of the past five years? Sure would be nice if we also had a few regular season performers.
Yes, I mean the playoffs where the object is to win the Stanley Cup, not get pushed around by a bigger team.
 

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The Bruins have a bunch of dmen under 6’ and they’re not getting pushed around. Their weakest link has actually been their biggest defenseman.


Chara is really old, and should have hung them up Five years ago. No idea why Boston just keeps letting him play.
 
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