Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Discussion: LA Kings pick 5th, 22nd overall

[LAKings88]

Wow if we ended up with that without trading anything that’d be amazing.

Yeah. It’s a decent mental exercise but it’s way off.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I'm insanely jealous that Blackhawk fans have a guy on site who's speaking with all the prospects and tweeting on the fact the Blackhawks have spoken to them, as well as getting quotes.

Don't we have media people paid by the Kings? Can't any of them provide anything?

Jon Rosen has a WHL background, so he definitely could cover prospects. I’d also love to see the Kings use him more in this area.

 

[dman3474]

If Blakes guy isn't there at 5, I could see him making a trade with buffalo for 7 & 30 + another piece. Ideally we get them to take Phaneuf (if he'd waive his mmc) but maybe we could send McDermid (or another RHD) and get back something good

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

Since I'm a weirdo draft junky, I booked a flight to Vancouver yesterday. Tickets for the draft went on sale today. I got lower bowl for day #2, but trying to get day #1 tickets on Ticketmaster was a disaster. Every time I tried to click on a seat it prompted me with a message that the seat was gone. Currently ridiculous prices on StubHub, but hopefully that goes down closer to the event.

I have been to 2 drafts,one in Edmonton(95) and the other in Calgary(2000). They were both free all you had to do was lineup. Its sickening that people are getting charged for this event...disgusting actually!

 

[Brodeur]

I have been to 2 drafts,one in Edmonton(95) and the other in Calgary(2000). They were both free all you had to do was lineup. Its sickening that people are getting charged for this event...disgusting actually!

I kinda blame social media and the popularity of the NFL/NBA Drafts. It's become oddly fashionable to attend a draft even if you have no idea who any of the prospects are. Most of the people sitting next to me in 2017 were taking photos with their $10 beers just waiting to yell "Woo" when the Blackhawks made their pick. After their pick was made, the guy I was sitting next to for like 3 hours asked who Henri Jokiharju was. I really wanted to ask the guy "Why did you come and sit through all of this?"

I actually don't blame teams for charging a small amount of money (it'd be nice if it went straight to local youth hockey or something). Tried to go in 2012 in Pittsburgh but all the free tickets got claimed, but naturally there were plenty of seats to be had when people realized they had better things to do.

It'd be a bummer to fly up there and not get to do Day #1, but realistically it wouldn't be too bad.. Most of my fun stories from attending the draft usually come from Day #2 when there's much less fan fare.

 

[King'sPawn]

My personal draft day story was when I attended the 2010 draft in LA. It was pretty funny because they weren't very good at hiding the nameplates which were going to go up on the draft board, and with where we were sitting, we saw who was being drafted before the name was called.

One of the people I was sitting by looked back a few rows at Charlie Coyle, and called out to him "Hey, you're about to be called by the Sharks!" He just stared blankly, since nobody announced anything and he had no idea what to say. Sure enough, about a minute later, his name was called.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Zegras is extremely talented and I could see him being 1 of the best kids in the draft but also could see him bust like Robbie Schremp. The kid is a hot dog....

 

[Brodeur]

My personal draft day story was when I attended the 2010 draft in LA. It was pretty funny because they weren't very good at hiding the nameplates which were going to go up on the draft board, and with where we were sitting, we saw who was being drafted before the name was called.

One of the people I was sitting by looked back a few rows at Charlie Coyle, and called out to him "Hey, you're about to be called by the Sharks!" He just stared blankly, since nobody announced anything and he had no idea what to say. Sure enough, about a minute later, his name was called.

That's pretty funny/sad that he had his moment kinda spoiled. They went to a digital setup in 2012 finally. In 2011, Nashville went off the board for Magnus Hellberg and whoever was operating the draft board must not have had that one ready. I think a few more picks got put on the board before Hellberg's.

I sat behind the NBCSN table in 2017, kinda had some picks spoiled for me. The teams enter in the picks at the table, so it gives the TV people time to queue up the highlight package and for the cameramen to find the kid in the crowd for the reaction shot. I had a jersey with separate Hischier/Patrick nameplates and before the pick, one of the cameramen turns around and tells me it's Hischier. As the draft went on, I had to look away from their set since I could see which highlights they were getting prepped.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I wish someone on the Kings’ staff at the time could explain to us why they called a timeout at the 2003 draft. My assumption is they were prepared to select Anthony Stewart, Florida probably became aware of this and jumped ahead of the Kings, who then had to scramble to determine who their next pick would be.

 

[King'sPawn]

That's pretty funny/sad that he had his moment kinda spoiled. They went to a digital setup in 2012 finally. In 2011, Nashville went off the board for Magnus Hellberg and whoever was operating the draft board must not have had that one ready. I think a few more picks got put on the board before Hellberg's.

I sat behind the NBCSN table in 2017, kinda had some picks spoiled for me. The teams enter in the picks at the table, so it gives the TV people time to queue up the highlight package and for the cameramen to find the kid in the crowd for the reaction shot. I had a jersey with separate Hischier/Patrick nameplates and before the pick, one of the cameramen turns around and tells me it's Hischier. As the draft went on, I had to look away from their set since I could see which highlights they were getting prepped.

I agree. If there's an appropriate time to engage a player, I will, but when they're kids hanging out with their family, I want them to enjoy their moment. If anything, he probably thought we were nuts since we were just sitting there in the stands not too far in front of him.

That's pretty funny with the Hellberg pick. For some reason I don't remember that draft too much (I wasn't there in person, but I always listen/watch on TV).

 

[Kingspiracy]

If Blakes guy isn't there at 5, I could see him making a trade with buffalo for 7 & 30 + another piece. Ideally we get them to take Phaneuf (if he'd waive his mmc) but maybe we could send McDermid (or another RHD) and get back something good

I'd rather keep MacDermid. If we are going to be shit a few more seasons and bringing in a lot of youth, having that big rig patrolling the ice will be priceless

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Herby]

I still think LA and Chicago could make good trade partners to swap picks if the Kings really like Byram and the Hawks value those 3 guys (Byram, Turcotte, Cozens) evenly or they just don't want to go D again. The Hawks could pick-up an asset and still end up with a guy they view as a future 1C at 5. I wonder what the Kings would have to give up to move from the 5 to 3?

 

[Ghetty Green]

He seems to be currently slotting right around 9-12 depending on the person doing the mock draft. It seems like Newhook, Zegras, Caufield, Boldy are the forwards that are really getting some bumps right now.

It feels like the forwards are really grouped right now:

Group A: Hughes, Kakko
Group B: Turcotte, Cozens, Dach
Group C: Zegras, Caufield, Newhook
Group D: Krebs, Boldy, Kaliyev

It kind of gets weird after these guys in terms of Forwards because none of them really jump off the page. You could throw Brink, Suzuki, Hoglander, Dorofeyev, Tomasino, Puistola and Lavoie in a pot and whoever you grab could be a hit or a miss. Some of those guys are going to be there when the Kings pick at 22. You can throw Podkolzin in there as well because nobody knows what he is going to do.

The main reason I think that Dach is going to be rated higher is that 6'4 Centers that can control the play and make others better are not that common. His size is going to make him go higher than a guy like Zegras who is probably the better overall player.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Kings try to package their #22 and 2nd rounder to get into the 10-15 range. Usually, teams have deals explored with other teams and can pull the trigger if the player they want is there. One or two of these guys in Group B-D is going to drop down because things always are fluid once the picks start coming off the board. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a guy like Krebs, Newhook or Boldy sitting there because a bunch of Defensemen went higher than expected. That's where I would be aggressive if I were Blake. How pleased would we be be if the Kings were able to grab Byram and then pivot up and snag Newhook or Krebs?

Exactly! I think Krebs will be the one to fall into the late teens

 

[Frolov 6'3]

I've seen more than half of the points Kaliyev scored this past season. He's a very good setup man. He made lots of excellent passes that led directly to teammate's goals.

He also scores goals in a variety of ways. He's got the big one-timer (reminds me of Stamkos), be he also scores a lot of goals in tight like Gaborik.

The knock on him is that he looks invisible when not scoring, but that can be said about a lot of goal scoring wingers.

50+ goals in the CHL is a lot for a 17 year old. The other players that achieved that all ended up having long NHL careers at the very least.

Yup and on top of that, nobody on his team was even close.

The only player I would trade up for.

 

[King'sPawn]

New article to come out on Mayor's Manor today. Will post when it's up,but keep your eyes open. Not 100% sure which one will go out as I have submitted a few for editing.

FWIW I'm sorry I'm not there to provide any Kings-related Combine coverage. I'm hoping you are enjoying the articles as discussion points.

 

[SFKingshomer]

I think it's such a crap shoot after the top 2 and I'm not sold on either being the best players in the draft in the long run. The top 10 is loaded with guys who very well could be the cream of the crop in a few years.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

New article to come out on Mayor's Manor today. Will post when it's up,but keep your eyes open. Not 100% sure which one will go out as I have submitted a few for editing.

FWIW I'm sorry I'm not there to provide any Kings-related Combine coverage. I'm hoping you are enjoying the articles as discussion points.

I know we may take it a bit for granted because basically all our content-creators are at arms-length on these boards, but I know everyone is thankful that guys like you, @FrozenRoyalty et. al. create off-site content, and that people like @KopitarFAN keep us updated nightly on-site, along with @kingsboy11 doing GDTs, and a whole lot of people I know I'm missing off the top of my head...but thank you for basically being the only people not staffed by The Athletic giving us any semblance of Kings news/access.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Rekingsfan17]

I still think LA and Chicago could make good trade partners to swap picks if the Kings really like Byram and the Hawks value those 3 guys (Byram, Turcotte, Cozens) evenly or they just don't want to go D again. The Hawks could pick-up an asset and still end up with a guy they view as a future 1C at 5. I wonder what the Kings would have to give up to move from the 5 to 3?

I like that idea. Maybe they could move a roster player that is a good player but just not in our future plans....?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

That Athletic/Pronman Cozens article made me even lower on him.

He'll be an NHLer, I just can't get past the limited upside imo. Only thing that makes me think even remotely otherwise is TG. But otherwise he's just Carter/Wheeler with a mediocre shot.

 

[King'sPawn]

Couple things on Caufield:

According to this post, Caufield said on the radio he did not meet with the Kings at the Combine, but he met with them last week: F Cole Caufield - USNTDP Juniors, USHL (2019 Draft)

I'm also trying to find it again on Twitter, but I don't know how reliable the person was; he said according to a source, the Blackhawks are leaning towards Caufield at #3.

Again, not sure if it's true.