2019 Draft: 1st Pick: Philip Broberg

[Zaddy]

I feel like he's much better off in SHL with Skellefteå than in OHL. He needs to play against men in a structured environment. That's how he's going to learn to play defensively. Loose end-to-end junior hockey isn't going to teach him that, and Skellefteå is a great club at developing players. Really hope he stays in Sweden.

I guess the upside with OHL though would be that he'd have more of an opportunity to hone his offensive game, so there's that. But I feel like that part of the game will come in time anyway, just like it did with Klefbom. Just need two years in Sweden and then a year in AHL.

 

[Soundwave]

Our future owner lol

Why wouldn't he be? I'm not sure why people think that's funny, most businesses pass down to the children. He seems passionate about the team at least.

 

[snipes]

Why wouldn't he be? I'm not sure why people think that's funny, most businesses pass down to the children. He seems passionate about the team at least.

It was a dead serious comment I’m laughing about the difference from when he was a kid until now.

Makes me feel old.

 

[Soundwave]

It was a dead serious comment I’m laughing about the difference from when he was a kid until now.

Makes me feel old.

Yeah, kinda happens though. Kids tend to grow a lot between age 10 and 19, lol.

I wanna know where his height is coming from, he's a giant and his dad is like 5'7. Crazy.

 

[nabob]

I feel like he's much better off in SHL with Skellefteå than in OHL. He needs to play against men in a structured environment. That's how he's going to learn to play defensively. Loose end-to-end junior hockey isn't going to teach him that, and Skellefteå is a great club at developing players. Really hope he stays in Sweden.

I guess the upside with OHL though would be that he'd have more of an opportunity to hone his offensive game, so there's that. But I feel like that part of the game will come in time anyway, just like it did with Klefbom. Just need two years in Sweden and then a year in AHL.

As long as he doesn’t get stuck playing 6-8 minutes a night or being scratched all the time I think I’d want him in Sweden as well. For personal and selfish reasons I’d like him to be in the OHL where he’ll get more offensive minutes and it’ll be easier to watch him.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Yeah, kinda happens though. Kids tend to grow a lot between age 10 and 19, lol.

I wanna know where his height is coming from, he's a giant and his dad is like 5'7. Crazy.

Mailman

 

[NinjaKick]

I love this pick, Broberg is a big kid and skates well... and Holland has a strong history with the Swedes... and Tippet has a strong history with young players and defense...
I think Larsson will make a good mentor to Broberg as well... Larsson wears the "A" on his jersey for a reason and is a fellow Swede...Broberg has the potential to be exactly what the Oilers needed...

and with E. Bouchard on his way... I think we're goingto see a much improved team this next season...
I'm a big fan of what Holland has done... and in such a short period of time...

 

[belair]

I feel like he's much better off in SHL with Skellefteå than in OHL. He needs to play against men in a structured environment. That's how he's going to learn to play defensively. Loose end-to-end junior hockey isn't going to teach him that, and Skellefteå is a great club at developing players. Really hope he stays in Sweden.

I guess the upside with OHL though would be that he'd have more of an opportunity to hone his offensive game, so there's that. But I feel like that part of the game will come in time anyway, just like it did with Klefbom. Just need two years in Sweden and then a year in AHL.

If Broberg isn't getting the opportunities in the SHL, that could be counterproductive as well though. The AHL is also available for him to hone that defensive ability as well. There's really no rush for him to get to the NHL level at this point.

 

[guymez]

I'm going to apologize for all the vilitrol I posted about this player the other day. Pretty pathetic. Kids an Oiler and I'm going to express the good points in his game and cheer him on to improve and become the best player we can be. I'll post my thoughts about him in a positive manner with constructive criticism instead of negativity.

- Kids an extremely fast skater. His edgework could use some work but he gets up to speed very quick and puts defenders on their heels

- He has a hard slap and wrist shot. Needs to work on accuracy and release but the power is there

- He uses his speed well to get back defensively

- Plays a very clean game. Reminiscent of Klefbom. Doesn't use his body to hit or get agressive much, rather he uses his stickwork to get there.

- His defensive positioning is...relatively poor however his skating often can cover for it. When playing against adults in Sweden it was more exposed however against his age group the speed more than made up for it

- the knock I've heard most about him is that he doesn't really learn from mistakes too well. Tends to make the same mistakes multiple times and doesn't really correct fast. That said he is relatively new to playing defense and a lot of that could be coaching. I don't know a lot about how coach this year but it's possible that he didn't work with him or give him great direction to improve. Under the right direction I feel like he could correct.

- With him being a center till 4 years ago his offensive instincts are still good and he isn't afraid to join the rush or crash the net which can create chaos for opposing teams as he acts like a 4th forward at times but has the speed to get back defensively.

I believe with good coaching and lots of hard work, if he is able to start to learn from his mistakes and improve his defensive position he could be a very good second pairing defender in the NHL. Development can be wild and all over the place so he could sky rocket that as well. Hell if he has the se jump in ability Samorukov had he could be a #1 for sure from his elite skating alone.

I think he takes 2 more years overseas or Junior here. After that I believe he goes to Bakersfield until he is ready to breakout into the NHL.

Classy post.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Yeah, kinda happens though. Kids tend to grow a lot between age 10 and 19, lol.

I wanna know where his height is coming from, he's a giant and his dad is like 5'7. Crazy.

I’m not sure what Katz wife looks like but I’m guessing she’s very attractive and basically genetically perfect. I’ve seen some rich dweebs have kids with damn near perfect women and those perfect women genes seem to win, their kids tend to get a way better set of genes than their dads.

 

[3IR]

I feel like he's much better off in SHL with Skellefteå than in OHL. He needs to play against men in a structured environment. That's how he's going to learn to play defensively. Loose end-to-end junior hockey isn't going to teach him that, and Skellefteå is a great club at developing players. Really hope he stays in Sweden.

I guess the upside with OHL though would be that he'd have more of an opportunity to hone his offensive game, so there's that. But I feel like that part of the game will come in time anyway, just like it did with Klefbom. Just need two years in Sweden and then a year in AHL.

I agree.

I remember an interview with klefbom when he got called up from the AHL for the first time, talking about how the NHL almost seemed like an easier transition for him because the AHL players would make plays that they werent supposed to make in his eyes.

I can't remember the exact interview, and it's been a long time, but I specifically remember him mentioning playing NHLers was more predictable because they made the right plays more often than not, and I think that's because he came from the SEL where he was playing against professional men with structured games.

I have nothing against Broberg coming to the OHL, but if he has the chance to be playing against men in a professional league, I think he'll transition to the NHL game a bit easier.

That said, I'd also love to watch him play with his peers just for comparison sake in the OHL.

I'm sure Holland and Broberg will find the best path for him.

 

[Aerchon]

Watched the draft today. Had to PVR.

Still dont like the pick but I found Stevey Ys comments interesting.

He made it sound like the players, including Cozens and Zegras, left in the draft just were not that great/different from each other.

This goes with what I was thinking months ago but got caught up in pre-draft hype.

Negative way to look at it but if the forwards after Turcotte and Dach just were not that impressive picking a long shot future #1 in Broberg isn't as bad.

Broberg very much seems like a true boom or bust prospect. Up and down career to date. Only been a defenseman for a relatively short time.

Great speed/size and literally nothing else of true note. Sounded like he interviews very well.

A gamble that his development will exceed his current skill set.

No floor but high ceiling.

If some of the picks we passed on have great quick surges it will be tough to follow this kid because I think he is an extremely long term project.

He is a reach somewhat like Jankowski was for the Flames. Not as bad but the Oilers obviously see tons of room for growth rather than an established skill set.

 

[JustNapamIt]

I’m not sure what Katz wife looks like but I’m guessing she’s very attractive and basically genetically perfect. I’ve seen some rich dweebs have kids with damn near perfect women and those perfect women genes seem to win, their kids tend to get a way better set of genes than their dads.

Shes not. Not even close. Plus shes about 70 now

 

[KarmaPolice]

Maybe I just wasn't that impressed with this draft other than 5 or 6 prospects that really stood out to me (who were already taken before our turn), but I really liked taking a swing for the fences with Broberg when contrasted to the 'meh' that was left. Not 'meh' as in not good, but just no one left that really stood out or that truly excited me. And I'll trust Holland with his Swedish hockey knowledge; I think he's earned some trust there.

 

[dustrock]

I guess the question is: should Broberg play 24 minutes per game in the OHL or 12 minutes per game in the SHL.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think I would rather just leave him in Sweden. If hes getting buried under guys, then maybe on the OHL.

 

[Aerchon]

He has not always been a defenseman. He has question marks about his iq. Playing against lesser competition won't hurt him like some other prospects.

Holland said he would prefer him in junior hockey if he is not going to get ice time overseas.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

He has not always been a defenseman. He has question marks about his iq. Playing against lesser competition won't hurt him like some other prospects.

Holland said he would prefer him in junior hockey if he is not going to get ice time overseas.

Where did you hear that from? I read different.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

All the highlight packages I've seen of him I don't really see why there are people upset. He looks like a better version of Nurse with better offensive instincts and escapeability. I didn't pay much attention to the juniors this year so I don't even recall watching Sweden at all but this guy just blowing past all of his similarly aged counterparts with his speed is definitely eye catching to me, atleast.

 

[nuck]

He has not always been a defenseman. He has question marks about his iq. Playing against lesser competition won't hurt him like some other prospects.

Holland said he would prefer him in junior hockey if he is not going to get ice time overseas.

Much bigger responsibility and minutes playing in the OHL, and then move him to Bako next season which is tougher hockey than the SHL. Not like he wouldn't develop over there but they play to win, not to develop kids for the NHL, where he would get Bouchard minutes playing in the O, and later Oilers system coaching and development here. Woodcroft and Manson seem to handle young D men pretty well. I would like to see him against top Canadian kids his own age.

 

[Aerchon]

Where did you hear that from? I read different.

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Ive done a fair bit of research and his IQ from multiple sources seems to be low.

Quotes I remember are that he plays like he had blinders on. Makes a lot of obvious mistakes. Low vision. Low IQ. Not a great passer. Once he gains the zone often has no idea what to do. Not a great shot. Low offensive instincts. Has trouble in the corners under pressure. Has trouble puck handling at top speed, or doing anything at top speed. Very inconsistent.

He is incredibly raw. Has only been playing defense for a few years.

He is incredibly fast. Like extremely fast. Best forward skater in the draft. Has great size and reach. Gets to pucks quick and skates it out of trouble. Gains the offensive zone easily.

In all seriousness his scouting report is similar to Nurse but not as good.

He kinda seems like a blend of Klefbom and Nurse. Which if all goes well is a #1 defenseman.

 

[snipes]

I think I would rather just leave him in Sweden. If hes getting buried under guys, then maybe on the OHL.

And like half the games in the SHL compared to the OHL.

The OHL is a way better scenario IMO, the ice time in NA is huge.

He needs to be playing being minutes working on his game over the next few years.

 

[FlameChampion]

Ive done a fair bit of research and his IQ from multiple sources seems to be low.

Quotes I remember are that he plays like he had blinders on. Makes a lot of obvious mistakes. Low vision. Low IQ. Not a great passer. Once he gains the zone often has no idea what to do. Not a great shot. Low offensive instincts. Has trouble in the corners under pressure. Has trouble puck handling at top speed, or doing anything at top speed. Very inconsistent.

He is incredibly raw. Has only been playing defense for a few years.

He is incredibly fast. Has great size and reach. Gets to pucks quick and skates it out of trouble. Gains the offensive zone easily.

In all seriousness his scouting report is similar to Nurse but not as good.

You are correct that there are multiple sources in regards to his hockey IQ. Only thing I would say is that he doesnt havent low IQ, he has average IQ. That being said I think for a player who goes in the top 10, you would like to see better hockey IQ than average. Another thing I would say that it is very hard to analyze a prospect that plays against men.

One of my concerns with this prospect is that I wonder how much the Oilers (who dont seem to have a ton of european scouts) actually watched him outside of the tournaments. I am not going to pile on the prospect though, I hope he turns out for us.

 

[CycloneSweep]

And like half the games in the SHL compared to the OHL.

The OHL is a way better scenario IMO, the ice time in NA is huge.

He needs to be playing being minutes working on his game over the next few years.

Yep. With him not playing defense till 4 years ago, I feel like the more ice time the better cause he essentially needs to make up for lost time not playing defense.

For him he needs to be able to learn from mistakes and needs the ice time to do so. He will need to go to the AHL anyways so the SEL isn't as necessary as the plan is probably not Europe and then direct to NHL. 1 year in Hamilton and then 1-3 in Bakersfield imo

 

[KMart27]

The OHL has no problem turning out high end defensemen. He plays in the OHL, he gets a bigger role than staying in Sweden. It probably makes it easier for the Oilers to work with him during the season. After the season he can play another year in the OHL, he could go to Bakersfield, or he could go back to Sweden for a year. Lots of options. I imagine that Holland will do what he can to determine what role his team in Sweden has in their plans.