On one hand, it is a ridiculously small sample size. BUT on the other hand, someone took the time to put it in a bar chart.....hmmmmm????
Sanford for MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On one hand, it is a ridiculously small sample size. BUT on the other hand, someone took the time to put it in a bar chart.....hmmmmm????
Sanford for MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brian39
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It doesn't feel that way because we are 1-4-1 in our last 6. The other 4 wins in the 10 game sample came between 1/7/20 and 1/13/20, which was 3+ weeks ago now. The All star break and the bye week really stretched out the last 10 games.
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A total of six division games (including one at Minnesota) over the course of the next four weekends. Should make for some Must-See-TV.
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Or is he building value?Sanford is making it hard me to champion his trade bait status
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It seems to me that Sanford gets more scoring chances then anybody on the team. That means something
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Dbrownss
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Renard
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The team needs a spark. If we can't make a deal, the team can at least go to a bar and get excited about a "new" old song.
The Athletic did a poll of agents asking various questions. I really enjoyed this one: Which GM do you find most unreasonable to deal with?
“Doug Armstrong. I would just say that he’s very inflexible when he takes a position, and the frustrating part is that no matter how many reasonable arguments you make, he doesn’t seem to listen. With other GMs, they say no but there’s an acknowledgment of your position.”
I'm glad Doug doesn't take any of the agents shit and draws a firm line in the sand. I'd much rather be known as a hard-ass with a Championship, than a reasonable guy in the eyes of the player agents.
“Doug Armstrong. I would just say that he’s very inflexible when he takes a position, and the frustrating part is that no matter how many reasonable arguments you make, he doesn’t seem to listen. With other GMs, they say no but there’s an acknowledgment of your position.”
I'm glad Doug doesn't take any of the agents shit and draws a firm line in the sand. I'd much rather be known as a hard-ass with a Championship, than a reasonable guy in the eyes of the player agents.
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It's not even a surprise that Dubas was one of the "easiest to deal with". He's been strong armed into some really questionable contracts
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It’s good for Doug to have that reputation. It hasn’t hurt his ability to get UFAs to sign with the Blues. We also haven’t seen any lengthy holdouts. I would say the fallout from his stubbornness has been a net positive very easily.
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Even if it has hurt us with UFAs, which is impossible to quantify, it's saved us from signing big and bad deals. It's much better to build a team through draft and timely trades, and that's what Army has been good at. I really wouldn't even say Army's stubbornness has resulted in players leaving St. Louis. Shattenkirk clearly wanted New York, Backes was a wise decision to pass on, Stastny was good to just move on from, so we can't act like there is a bunch of bad blood out there.
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Army did what was best for the team in the ROR deal, but there is absolutely some bad blood with Berglund. I doubt we ever get the full, unbiased picture of what exactly happened there, but if we are talking about bad blood and GM/player/agent relationships that should be acknowledged.
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I mean to the extent that he or the Blues are sort of black-balled by agents. Berglund might personally have some bad blood though, either with Army or his agent, so you are correct on that.
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Based on what Berglund said, it was his agent's fault, not Army's. Maybe there is bad blood, but even if there was, I'm sure a chat would clear things up. Bergy has to know that we won the cup largely due to O'Reilly. Berglund wouldn't have pushed us that far, nor would he have had 70 points.
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I think it is pretty obvious that Berglund blames his agent for screwing up, but was also incredibly hurt by his organization of 10+ years capitalizing on the opportunity almost as soon as they could to get him off the roster. To a team that they knew was on his previous no-trade list. I don't think the concept that "well we accomplished hockey's ultimate goal specifically because we removed you" is going to ease that hurt. Berglund immediately started suffering major mental health issues and quit the NHL because of it (leaving $10+ mil on the table). I don't think a quick chat is clearing everything up.
Again, Army did what was best for the team and as a fan of the team I am completely happy with where we ended up. But that transaction absolutely needs to be part of the discussion about whether Army being a shrewd GM may impact relationships and negotiations moving forward. We will never definitively know the answer to that question because those are not things aired out in public. We don't know if UFAs or agents to UFAs keep that transaction in their mind in the summer. We don't know whether guys in our locker room keep it in mind during negotiations and ask for anything extra in their contract. But when we are speculating on all this stuff, it is absolutely a relevant event.
I know if I'm Petro and his agent right now, I'm demanding nothing less than an iron clad NMC after watching Army capitalize on an agent screwing up a more nuanced, team friendly NTC.
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I can’t find the post now, but someone said “whoever broke ROR...” sumthn sumthn
ROR is on pace for one his best seasons in his career, points wise, that is.
I know stat lines are not always the best way to determine a player’s ability or evaluate their season, but ROR is on pace for 57-58 assists and he will probably wind up close to 20 goals.
That is outstanding.
With the objective being to outscore the opponent, I would say ROR is having a fine season, even if his defensive lapses have been unusually noticeable this season.
The net effect far outweighs the occasional lapse.
ROR is on pace for one his best seasons in his career, points wise, that is.
I know stat lines are not always the best way to determine a player’s ability or evaluate their season, but ROR is on pace for 57-58 assists and he will probably wind up close to 20 goals.
That is outstanding.
With the objective being to outscore the opponent, I would say ROR is having a fine season, even if his defensive lapses have been unusually noticeable this season.
The net effect far outweighs the occasional lapse.
Unless he gets hot soon, i have a hard time seeing oreilly getting that close to 20 goals.
He will probably end up around 14 which is fine if he continues to be an assist machine.
We were spoiled by him having career year last season just like we were spoiled by schenn having a career year his first season with us. They played so well they set too high of expectations for themselves.
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I consider it a badge of honor that agents think Armstrong is unreasonable. I want a GM who is smart and tough.
Armstrong has to be respectful and courteous to agents, which I'm sure he is. But no more than that.
Armstrong has to be respectful and courteous to agents, which I'm sure he is. But no more than that.
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That was me. It was a comment (that I have made in several recent GDTs) that he is suddenly making some very bad decisions with the puck. Very un-ROR-like. I'm not reading too much into it, but I would like to see him simplify his game a bit because these situations are usually a result of him trying to force a play that isn't there. As you say, the points are still piling up and that's great, but he's been turning the puck over a lot more than usual, often in a very bad spot on this ice and/or at a very bad time of the game.
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I will say he doesn't look at ridiculously good as last year. He does seem "off" but he's still an outstanding player and having a hell of a season. I'd list it under perception that's influenced by his god like performance last year. Plus the rest of the team doesn't look like hot garbage....so that's skewing things too
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