Speculation: 2019-20 News/Rumors,Roster thread Post Deadline

[KingsOfCali25]

Just as a thought experiment, I’ve been thinking about what the Kings might look like in 2020-21 for real.

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Frk - Vilardi - Kempe
Grundstrom - Carter - Moore
Wagner - Lizotte - Luff

xxx - Doughty
Anderson - Roy
MacDermid - Walker

Quick
Petersen

That leaves a lot of good players down in Ontario:

Turcotte, Kaliyev, JAD, Thomas, Fagemo, Madden, Dudas, Kupari, Bjornfot, Clague, Durzi, Hults.

Add to that anyone we draft (including possibly Stutzle and any of the second rounders), and sheesh, what a depth chart we have.

I'd like to see it more as...

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Stutzle - Carter - Kaliyev (9 games)
Kempe - Vilardi - Frk
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore
Amadio, Grundstrum (would go for Stutzle if Byfield is picked)

Dark horse: Fagemo (would go in for Kaliyev)

Anderson - Doughty
Vet UFA - Roy
MacDermid - Walker
Brickley

Quick
Petersen

P.S. Kaliyev is NHL or OHL. Won't be able to go to Ontario.

 

[kings11]

I think he deserves a shot. When he was up after his trade he was playing pretty well.

I’m not sure how or where to slot him.. Jeff is going to be one of the 2nd line wingers with Gabe.. so that leaves Lizotte and Amadio down the middle..
Kempe, Wagner, Moore, Prokhorkin, Vet or two, maybe Byfield or Stutzle which would likely move Iafallo down... then you still have JAD and Kaliyev ... maybe Grundy and a 2nd to move 3-5 spots .. just spit balling here

 

[dman3474]

I think Madden may push for a spot. he might not make it but I think he's going to turn some heads

 

[kilowatt]

I’m not sure how or where to slot him.. Jeff is going to be one of the 2nd line wingers with Gabe.. so that leaves Lizotte and Amadio down the middle..
Kempe, Wagner, Moore, Prokhorkin, Vet or two, maybe Byfield or Stutzle which would likely move Iafallo down... then you still have JAD and Kaliyev ... maybe Grundy and a 2nd to move 3-5 spots .. just spit balling here

I think Amadio will be in Ontario next season. I had high hopes for him but he never took the next step. Hopefully he can help the kids in Ontario.

 

[kings11]

I think Amadio will be in Ontario next season. I had high hopes for him but he never took the next step. Hopefully he can help the kids in Ontario.

Pretty sure he’ll have to clear waivers as well..
they likely aren’t losing their 4C in favor of Grundy...

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Carter - Vilardi - Frk
Kempe - Lizotte - Moore
Prokhorkin - Amadio - Wagner
Grundstrom- Veteran

At this point the above is the obvious, but no one knows if Pro heads to the KHL, if Wagners plays himself off the roster and Amadio did exactly what you’d expect a 4C to do

 

[kilowatt]

Pretty sure he’ll have to clear waivers as well..
they likely aren’t losing their 4C in favor of Grundy...

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Carter - Vilardi - Frk
Kempe - Lizotte - Moore
Prokhorkin - Amadio - Wagner
Grundstrom- Veteran

At this point the above is the obvious, but no one knows if Pro heads to the KHL, if Wagners plays himself off the roster and Amadio did exactly what you’d expect a 4C to do

I though Pro already signed with Metallurg? Your roster is probably pretty close to what we’ll see, but I bet you swap Prokhorkin for Grundstrom and switch Kempe and Carter. I still don’t think Amadio sticks though. This might also be likely:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Kempe - Vilardi - Frk
Grundstrom - JAD - Carter
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore

 

[funky]

Blake is at the point he can trade some assets for an established young long term player.

an example. Blake wants Eichel

trades our 1st and some top prospects.

team is automatically better.

now this would be at the far end of the spectrum but say Blake signs a guy like Edmundson long term. That only leaves 2 open spots on the left side. I am assuming MacD is our #6/7.

Blake now has two spots to be filled by Bjornfot, Anderson, Hults, Clague etc. a very nice prospect like Bjornfot may be paired with a forward prospect like Thomas, Fagemo etc and sacrificed in a trade to land a high end younger forward.

if we land Byfield possibly Vilardi, Turcotte or a couple of group B guys like Kupari, Thomas or JAD are bundled for a proven young pup.

we have so many options at this point. No matter what anyone thinks of our management they have acquired more quality assets than anyone in the league and have reduced payroll to the point where we have many trade chips for the future and room to take on contracts.

 

[KopitarFAN]

I though Pro already signed with Metallurg? Your roster is probably pretty close to what we’ll see, but I bet you swap Prokhorkin for Grundstrom and switch Kempe and Carter. I still don’t think Amadio sticks though. This might also be likely:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Kempe - Vilardi - Frk
Grundstrom - JAD - Carter
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore

Not officially, but we all assume he's going back.

 

[TruKingFan]

I think he deserves a shot. When he was up after his trade he was playing pretty well.

Hopefully the Kings give him a QO.

 

[Statto]

I'd like to see it more as...

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Stutzle - Carter - Kaliyev (9 games)
Kempe - Vilardi - Frk
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore
Amadio, Grundstrum (would go for Stutzle if Byfield is picked)

Dark horse: Fagemo (would go in for Kaliyev)

Anderson - Doughty
Vet UFA - Roy
MacDermid - Walker
Brickley

Quick
Petersen

P.S. Kaliyev is NHL or OHL. Won't be able to go to Ontario.

Stützle? Do you expect us to trade down to#3?

In all seriousness they will pick BPA and that’s Byfield today and he has the higher ceiling.

I also think in Kaliyev sticks, he starts with Kopi..

 

[regulate]

I think Amadio will be in Ontario next season. I had high hopes for him but he never took the next step. Hopefully he can help the kids in Ontario.

I doubt they expose him to waivers.

 

[kilowatt]

I doubt they expose him to waivers.

Are people seeing something in him that I haven’t? He’s a 13th forward 150 games into his career. I had high hopes for him but he has failed to prove that he’s an NHL player. In fact I’d argue that his point totals paint a better picture than he deserves. On a game-to-game level, he often harms the team with his weak play. He’ll look like Mike Richards for a shift, then Nick Shore the rest of the game. If we lost him to waivers, I’d give it a big old shrug. Amadio isn’t a center on a playoff team. I don’t even think he’d be claimed.

But hey, I was wrong on Roy and Walker, so maybe Amadio can find another gear this year. Unlike Roy and Walker though, we’ve already seen 150 games over three seasons and very little growth. Prove me wrong, Mike!

 

[Johnny Utah]

I though Pro already signed with Metallurg? Your roster is probably pretty close to what we’ll see, but I bet you swap Prokhorkin for Grundstrom and switch Kempe and Carter. I still don’t think Amadio sticks though. This might also be likely:

Iafallo - Kopitar - Brown
Kempe - Vilardi - Frk
Grundstrom - JAD - Carter
Wagner - Lizotte - Moore

I agree - I think this will be the roster - or something similar.

Prok is gone to the KHL. If the Kings re-sign Lewis he might take that third like center spot.

JAD only had barely one season in the AHL and he scored under 10 goals. Not why anyone or Kings brass has him penciled in. Former Kings cup players like Nolan, King spent a few seasons in the A before getting called up.

 

[kilowatt]

I agree - I think this will be the roster - or something similar.

Prok is gone to the KHL. If the Kings re-sign Lewis he might take that third like center spot.

JAD only had barely one season in the AHL and he scored under 10 goals. Not why anyone or Kings brass has him penciled in. Former Kings cup players like Nolan, King spent a few seasons in the A before getting called up.

Yeah, third line center is the only one I’m really not sure on. Who knows if one of the kids takes it out of camp - Turcotte? Thomas? Maybe the Kings sign a veteran on a one-year contract?

 

[Sleeping Dog]

Interesting...
Rumor: LA Kings making trade offer for Jack Eichel

I know this is the silly season - with numerous unfounded rumors, but interesting nonetheless.
Would you do 2OA, Vilardi and Carter for Eichel? Would Buffalo?

 

[Telos]

Maybe. Depends on the deal. I would most likely just make the pick but if Buffalo gets crazy, who knows. Maybe an established elite center is worth two prospects hoping to get there....

 

[kingsboy11]

I think it would be ludicrous for Buffalo to get rid of Eichel, but lets entertain the hypothetical interest. I think the only way Blake does this is if he is really confident in our prospect system to get rid of some. So you'd have to be willing to part way with Byfield/Stutzle, Vilardi/Turcotte and then something else. Honestly I think it would be a mistake putting all your eggs into one basket in someone like Eichel. You need to find a way to balance the roster and I'm not saying Eichel wouldn't fit, but there are still holes in the roster that aren't going to be fixed by Eichel. Still need to be patient and see what you got in your prospects. I say wait until after the end of next season to start making key moves.

 

[Rusty Batch]

If you can get Eichel for #2overall + any one of our prospects you do it. We still will have lots of prospects. Eichel is a superstar.

 

[HookKing]

Interesting...
Rumor: LA Kings making trade offer for Jack Eichel

I know this is the silly season - with numerous unfounded rumors, but interesting nonetheless.
Would you do 2OA, Vilardi and Carter for Eichel? Would Buffalo?

If the rumor of an offer is real it could mean lots of pressure to start making the playoffs or perhaps he has the go ahead to try to fleece franchises with problems (seems a lot less likely).

 

[kilowatt]

We can only dream of any one of our prospects - Byfield included - becoming close to as talented as Eichel. I would much rather trade Turcotte than Vilardi though, I think Vilardi is going to be special as well.

Also worth noting though that that “source” isn’t a source at all, but pure speculation.

 

[Sparky206]

I think he would be very wise to wait and pick up some players that are getting squeezed by the lower than expected cap. I doubt Blake trades the pick, hes talked about before how the kings have always traded away their high picks and how he wanted that to change.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I think he would be very wise to wait and pick up some players that are getting squeezed by the lower than expected cap. I doubt Blake trades the pick, hes talked about before how the kings have always traded away their high picks and how he wanted that to change.

Not for 24 year old Eichel's though, who would be here for at least 6 years.

That's the kind of discussion or thoughts you can have when you have actual assets. Or, you can just as easily keep them, and try to build around guys who are 18 and 21. Either way is good.

 

[Sparky206]

Not for 24 year old Eichel's though, who would be here for at least 6 years.

That's the kind of discussion or thoughts you can have when you have actual assets. Or, you can just as easily keep them, and try to build around guys who are 18 and 21. Either way is good.

I agree, not Eichels, but good young players who teams cant afford because of the flat cap or some decent veterans whos cap hit is preventing the team from signing their youth.

That or you could weaponize our cap space, play the kids for the next 3 years on ELC. That 3 years corresponds to the flat cap. Use the space to hit the salary floor by taking on short term cap dumps for picks. It makes use of the cap space to gain assets without using it up for when the kids need their next contract. So realistically you can have the deepest prospect pool right now, and keep it re-stocked for the next 3 years while the kids turn into stars. Cap space is at a premium right now and we have the most, especially 21-22 season.

 

[KINGS17]

I don't think I would advocate making a move for a player like Eichel at this point. He is already expensive in an environment where the cap is not going to rise much over the next few seasons. Are we going to pay a combined $31M in cap hit for Eichel, Kopitar, and Doughty? Sounds like a bad idea to me.

 

[LAKings88]

You don’t trade this pick. This will be a core player going forward and will grow with the guys coming in the next few years.