Speculation: 2019-20 Expected Blackhawks Roster Part 4 - To Eberle or Not to Eberle - that is the question..

[featherhawk]

Hayes will be too expensive, no thanks.

Get a cheaper option and one that has more speed.

 

[AmericanDream]

Need to do more research. Why was his TOI in the playoffs 11:59?

If we could even just give away AA and Hayes was only a million more I’d probably be fine with it.

he really struggled to get going in the playoffs..not sure what exactly happend as Connor- Hayes - Ehlers was a strong line after the deadline when they got Kayes, then at some point in the playoffs the blender happened and Kayes was on different lines with little results. he looked a shell of himself during the playoffs - possibly playing through an injury or just simply lost his drive/fire..he wasn't alone as much of the Jets fizzled out as well..I would be very leery of 6x6 for him as his play away from the puck which is normally decent looked almost non existent in the playoffs..

 

[JaegerDice]

My view on Hayes is the same as Dzingel. If you can get him for under 4mil, sure. If not, hard pass.

I have little doubt the Blackhawks are interested though, because they always circle back on guys they were interested in once upon a time.

They liked him enough to draft him, little doubt they like him enough to sign him.

I just hope they can’t/don’t cause I think he’s overrated and will get overpaid.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Trading for Haula to ease the Vegas cap crunch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Throwing away money on Hayes

Haula will be healthy and ready for start of season and would slot in perfectly as 3rd line C with Saad

Also Haula is signed for only a year so if it doesn't work out we can simply walk away

Then flip Anisimov to Jackets for cheap (Milano + 2021 4th). Milano could be another low risk reclamation project but moving on from AA final two years is main motivator here

 

[Section88]

I would love to see Haula as the hawks 3C next year. Obviously brings more speed to the team, and it doesnt hurt that he kills penalties too. Could be had for cheap also. win win win

 

[Mrfenn92]

All for haula. Same for Hayes. I know he will be expensive. But I've always been a fan of his game.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Haula would be great. Trade for or develop 3Cs to keep costs down.

 

[Taze em]

It really doesn’t make sense how averse people are to signing FAs around here because we haven’t done it in awhile.

Look at it this way: you can buy an asset worth something for 1.25x what it’s worth and it costs you nothing but cap dollars.

Or

You can trade your assets for the right to pay someone what they are worth. So you are -picks prospects AND cap dollars

In the case of Hayes in Anisimov out: you can pay Hayes 1.25 what he’s worth and then trade anisimov for assets to recoup that and have the better player.

Hayes is a no brainer yes for me. Love the player, love the fit, and we can deal anisimov and get something decent for the trouble.

 

[featherhawk]

It really doesn’t make sense how averse people are to signing FAs around here because we haven’t done it in awhile.

Look at it this way: you can buy an asset worth something for 1.25x what it’s worth and it costs you nothing but cap dollars.

Or

You can trade your assets for the right to pay someone what they are worth. So you are -picks prospects AND cap dollars

In the case of Hayes in Anisimov out: you can pay Hayes 1.25 what he’s worth and then trade anisimov for assets to recoup that and have the better player.

Hayes is a no brainer yes for me. Love the player, love the fit, and we can deal anisimov and get something decent for the trouble.

depends on two things.

1) how much Kayes costs and what is the term
2) what is the return on Anisimov?

I would rather sell Anisimov and acquire a guy like Haula if you can get him for close to the same return that you got for Anisimov.

I don't mind Kayes and certainly not at 6x6

 

[EbonyRaptor]

We already have one center (Strome) who is a sub-par skater - I don't want another one by acquiring Hayes. I'm not saying Hayes is a poor skater - but he isn't quick/fast and if the idea is to be an aggressive forechecking team - we need more speed, not less.

On the other hand, Eric Haula, if healthy, would be a good fit.

 

[featherhawk]

We already have one center (Strome) who is a sub-par skater - I don't want another one by acquiring Hayes. I'm not saying Hayes is a poor skater - but he isn't quick/fast and if the idea is to be an aggressive forechecking team - we need more speed, not less.

On the other hand, Eric Haula, if healthy, would be a good fit.

agreed 100 %

 

[sooni]

Marko Anttila should come to Chicago... There might be top 9 place for him?

 

[clydesdale line]

Following the Blues-print: What the Blackhawks can learn...

 

[southernbeardown54]

It really doesn’t make sense how averse people are to signing FAs around here because we haven’t done it in awhile.

Look at it this way: you can buy an asset worth something for 1.25x what it’s worth and it costs you nothing but cap dollars.

Or

You can trade your assets for the right to pay someone what they are worth. So you are -picks prospects AND cap dollars

In the case of Hayes in Anisimov out: you can pay Hayes 1.25 what he’s worth and then trade anisimov for assets to recoup that and have the better player.

Hayes is a no brainer yes for me. Love the player, love the fit, and we can deal anisimov and get something decent for the trouble.

Hayes wants the most money he can get and someone like philly will offer him something insane. The hawks hopefully back away after that happens.

I like Hayes game too and it check a lot of boxes the hawks need though.

 

[OTC]

Isn't this what happened last season? There was all this talk about signing free agents and then the price was too high and we were left with Kunitz, Manning, and Ward. Quite a few teams have a lot of cap space.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to overpay and get stuck with another Bickell-esque contract but maybe the Hawks should focus their energy on improving their team via trades and a couple depth UFA signings. Or possibly offer sheet either Kapanen or Johnsson and give up a couple 2nd round picks.

We can get some players from Toronto if willing to take on a cap dump. i.e. Kadri/Kappenen+ Marleau and/or Zaitzev.
That gives Toronto space to sign Marner.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Marko Anttila should come to Chicago... There might be top 9 place for him?

A 34 year old who is 13th in scoring on his team in the KHL. Yeah sure...

 

[bwana63]

If the Hawks take Turcotte, that would completely negate signing a UFA center. Big plus, IMO. Keep AA and flip him at the TDL.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I wonder if Stan could acquire Alex Nylander. Something involving Brendan Perlini and Gustav Forsling.

 

[Rolo]

2019-20
SAAD - DUCHENE - KANE
STROME - TOEWS - DEBRINCAT
KUBALIK - ANISIMOV - KAHUN
PERLINI - KAMPF - CAGGIULA
HIGHMORE
HAYDEN

KEITH - JOKIHARJU
GUSTAFSSON - MURPHY
FORSLING - SEABROOK
DAHLSTROM
KOEKKOEK

CRAWFORD
DELIA

Trade AA, Saad & Murphy in 2020-21 for Strome/Cat extensions (replaced internally by Barratt, Kurashev, Mitchell/Boqvist)

 

[ColdSteel2]

I wonder if Stan could acquire Alex Nylander. Something involving Brendan Perlini and Gustav Forsling.

Maybe during the season if Nylander struggles.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

On board with acquiring a guy like Haula for a discount than giving Hayes multiple years at a high cap hit...

 

[featherhawk]

On board with acquiring a guy like Haula for a discount than giving Hayes multiple years at a high cap hit...

This I like; having said that I can't think of how perfect Danault would have been in previous years and moving forward

Toews
Strome
Danault
Kampf

That would have been stellar. down the middle...

 

[Toews2Bickell]

This I like; having said that I can't think of how perfect Danault would have been in previous years and moving forward

Toews
Strome
Danault
Kampf

That would have been stellar. down the middle...

Lets not talk about it...

 

[ChiHawk21]

I dont mind hayes if you can send out Anisimov for a little value. Hayes at 5x6 or somthing your only spending 1.5 extra on a player that will be better going forward and immediately upgrade your third line. Sign Tanev after and Hayes and Tanev can be a full PK unit too.

Kubalik-Toews-Kane
Debrincat-Strome-Kahun
Saad-Hayes-Tanev
Caggiula-Kampf-Perlini
Sikura

Keith-Joki
Gus-Murphy
Forlsing-Dahlstrom-Seabrook-Boqvist-Sign a cheap vet D man (anything that works)

 

[goldenbladz1]

I would still try to get Kadri out of the Leafs before signing Hayes