Salary Cap: 2019-20 cap discussion {rfa comp has been established}

[Fenian24]

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We will be fine for next season cap wise
We will need to move Miller or Moore for cap space...if we can’t unload Backes

We will most likely trade Miller and Keep Moore

Because Moore will be kept so he can go to Seattle in 20-21 in the expansion draft

I could see Krug traded if they win the cup and can’t agree to an extension this summer but if we don’t win the cup Krug is staying

And I still think Backes could be moved to a salary floor team having already been paid 23 of his 30 million

If we can move Backes we would have 10 million to play with and could bring back Mojo or sign someone for Krejci or Bergeron wing if they don’t trust the kids

Can we PLEASE stop putting totally unproven prospects, who have not developed at all, on the top line of a Stanley Cup contender. PLEASE. What has Anders Bjork done to even be considered for this spot? This is why we don't have a second line RW now. "Let's see what the kids can do",. they can suck. Donato was going to be a star, JFK was Bergeron lite, Bjork is still held up as some kind of future star. Ain't happening. Package up some of these b and c level prospects for proven talent or higher draft picks and hope whoever they draft is better than Donato, JFK or Bjork. Let's not forget Zach (14 goals in the AHL, 2 in the last 29 games) Senyshyn as a rw stud in training.

I like Frederic, like Studnicka I am not counting on them as top 9 players next year, desperate teams do this not teams that could win the cup this year and be a contender next year as well, but won't be with Anders ******** Bjork on the top line. Move some assets if you have to and create space to get a proven top 2 RW via trade or as a UFA or RFA if you aren't afraid of using the offer sheet and think you can make it work.

While Kuhlman has been decent would prefer a proven 3rd line rw but not as vital as a top 2rw.

 

[Fenian24]

We are totally unable to sign Duchenne right?
Solves a lot of long term issues.

No, if the cap comes in at 84m they could find a way to sign Duchense, would mean trading Krug or finding a way to move Backes but it can be done.

 

[13Hockey]

Can we PLEASE stop putting totally unproven prospects, who have not developed at all, on the top line of a Stanley Cup contender. PLEASE. What has Anders Bjork done to even be considered for this spot? This is why we don't have a second line RW now. "Let's see what the kids can do",. they can suck. Donato was going to be a star, JFK was Bergeron lite, Bjork is still held up as some kind of future star. Ain't happening. Package up some of these b and c level prospects for proven talent or higher draft picks and hope whoever they draft is better than Donato, JFK or Bjork. Let's not forget Zach (14 goals in the AHL, 2 in the last 29 games) Senyshyn as a rw stud in training.

I like Frederic, like Studnicka I am not counting on them as top 9 players next year, desperate teams do this not teams that could win the cup this year and be a contender next year as well, but won't be with Anders ******** Bjork on the top line. Move some assets if you have to and create space to get a proven top 2 RW via trade or as a UFA or RFA if you aren't afraid of using the offer sheet and think you can make it work.

While Kuhlman has been decent would prefer a proven 3rd line rw but not as vital as a top 2rw.

You can’t have all proven players in the salary cap world you need cheap prospects to make an impact to win a job

The bruins will be tight against the cap they cant sign proven vets for 3-5 mill they need these 750k salary guys in the lineup

Would it make you feel better if I make the lines

Marchand Bergeron Heinen
DeBrusk Krejci Pasta
Bjork Coyle Kuhlman
Lol

And Bjork has played with Marchand Bergeron before and was a stud until he got hurt

 

[Jaguar God]

Anders Bjork may not be a top six player yet, but I can easily see him becoming one in two-three years. Why do you feel the incessant need to insult our prospects?

 

[BruinFanSam]

No, if the cap comes in at 84m they could find a way to sign Duchense, would mean trading Krug or finding a way to move Backes but it can be done.

I’d rather Panarin. No idea if he can be squeezed in or convinced not to sign in Florida haha

 

[13Hockey]

I’d rather Panarin. No idea if he can be squeezed in or convinced not to sign in Florida haha

We only have 13.5 million in cap space this off season with McAvoy, Carlo, and Heinen to sign

We will need to make a trade just to be under the cap this season the Bruins won’t be signing any big name UFAs

 

[Fenian24]

Anders Bjork may not be a top six player yet, but I can easily see him becoming one in two-three years. Why do you feel the incessant need to insult our prospects?

Better prospects and I'll stop insulting them. When do they stop being prospects to you and start being failures? When they sign in Europe or become Seattle Sasquatch?

 

[BruinFanSam]

We only have 13.5 million in cap space this off season with McAvoy, Carlo, and Heinen to sign

We will need to make a trade just to be under the cap this season the Bruins won’t be signing any big name UFAs

Totally fair. I was just thinking one CBJ UFA vs. another.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

remember last year we offered Tavares and kovalchuk contracts we couldnt afford

obviously the team had a plan in mind how to afford it?

I speculate the plan involved krejci and/or krug

those are very good players that we dont want to trade for just any reason... but if we could add someone like Tavares I think the team is willing based on last year's behavior

so.. is there a possibility? could we go rfa hunting?

get someone like Patrick laine for 4 first round picks... paying him too much money
trade krejci to recoop 1 first round pick and something
trade krug to recoop a second first round pick
hope a combination of Charlie coyle/kids fills the second line hole for the short term

does it make sense for us? if we offersheet laine it makes us vulnurable for McAvoy and debrusk

is that a deal that makes sense?

for me... I say no… I didnt really feel the Tavares deal made sense either. it can be fun to imagine, but theres a lot of heavy lifting to be done to make something like this work

 

[DKH]

I wish I could be a fly on the wall or someones best friend and get some inside info... its easy for us at home to think we know more than we do, but theres always a possibility we dont know and might never know.

will a guy like krug actually sign a contract that we will feel ok offering? talent wise most of us know what we are getting with krug. hes very important to the pp. but these days, more and more undersized offensive gifted guys are popping out of the woodwork all the time. the need to overpay for one isnt nearly as great as it would have been even 4-5 years ago.

will krug test ufa before he signs? will anyone else go 6-7 years? is that what krug needs in order to be happy? at home, we might think we know these answers but its not us that will decide.

I know there are people here saying they dont feel comfortable paying Heinen 3 mill... and that is there right. theres always 2 options in a case like this for a team. pay or part ways. how much would Heinen be willing to give the team a 'deal' in order to stay? again, its not something we can know all the answers if we arent on the inside. ultimately, if the team feels a guy like Bjork or senyshyn or kuhlman can slide into heinens hole in the lineup and provide a similar result for an elc type payment then the answer becomes easier for the team. Heinen is not now nor will he ever be a 'core' part of this team {or probably any nhl team} He is a supporting piece of the puzzle and it wouldnt be wise to harm more important parts of your team by overpaying/overcommitting to any support piece.

is 3 mill on a 2-3 year deal an overcommittment? its the same price we were paying peverly/Kelly many years ago when the cap was a fraction. can Heinen be as important to the team over the next couple years as they were?

my gut says that if these players are reasonable then both are in the teams plans moving forward. we have a cup winning group put together now. the most important parts are older and wont last forever. the best bet is to keep the teams chemistry as much as possible for the short term and immediate future. make our bet on our kids being able to fill holes and make improvements to the lineup at a price we can afford. use the trade deadline for short term adds in places where the kids havent filled whatever cracks we have in the lineup

maximize the amount of winning we are able to do while Bergeron/marchand/rask stay at the top of their game and then rebuild when our window closes

If they win the Cup the goal is met

If they don’t they are more likely to go hard next year with Krug a year away from UFA and likely Chara last season

Reasonable to expect the skills of 47 & 46 will still be in late summer of their careers

Coyle is a beast and should take regular season heavy minutes from these two older players

In 30 days I’ll have a much better idea of atleast what I’d do

 

[neelynugs]

If they win the Cup the goal is met

If they don’t they are more likely to go hard next year with Krug a year away from UFA and likely Chara last season

Reasonable to expect the skills of 47 & 46 will still be in late summer of their careers

Coyle is a beast and should take regular season heavy minutes from these two older players

In 30 days I’ll have a much better idea of atleast what I’d do

danny boy. i think this is their best shot to win, so they'd best strike while the iron is hot.
after this spring, another year for father time to crack his whip. tampa will be back with a
vengeance. toronto keeps getting closer to beating us. yzerman in detroit will have that
team whipped into shape soon. the time is nigh.

 

[DKH]

danny boy. i think this is their best shot to win, so they'd best strike while the iron is hot.
after this spring, another year for father time to crack his whip. tampa will be back with a
vengeance. toronto keeps getting closer to beating us. yzerman in detroit will have that
team whipped into shape soon. the time is nigh.

It’s a glorious chance & if Panaren and Bobrovsky go to Florida we are probably looking at 5 teams in division making the playoffs

 

[neelynugs]

It’s a glorious chance & if Panaren and Bobrovsky go to Florida we are probably looking at 5 teams in division making the playoffs

what's your prediction?

 

[PlayMakers]

remember last year we offered Tavares and kovalchuk contracts we couldnt afford

obviously the team had a plan in mind how to afford it?

I speculate the plan involved krejci and/or krug

those are very good players that we dont want to trade for just any reason... but if we could add someone like Tavares I think the team is willing based on last year's behavior

so.. is there a possibility? could we go rfa hunting?

get someone like Patrick laine for 4 first round picks... paying him too much money
trade krejci to recoop 1 first round pick and something
trade krug to recoop a second first round pick
hope a combination of Charlie coyle/kids fills the second line hole for the short term

does it make sense for us? if we offersheet laine it makes us vulnurable for McAvoy and debrusk

is that a deal that makes sense?

for me... I say no… I didnt really feel the Tavares deal made sense either. it can be fun to imagine, but theres a lot of heavy lifting to be done to make something like this work

I don't see them going after RFA's, but Sweeney always seem to dip a toe in the UFA pool. As of right now, there are some interesting names...

Matt Duchene? They were rumored in on him when he was dealt from Colorado. Last year they went for Tavares so they seem interested in a center.

Anders Lee? Big body top6 forward, scored 40 goals once, captain of the Islanders.

Michael Ferland? Brings some real nasty and is a big time hitter. Not a big scorer but seems to play well with talent and always find himself in a top6 role. We'll get a good look at him over the next two weeks.

Brock Nelson? Another big body top6 forward. Not as offensive or as physical as Lee but more of a puckhound and takeaway guy. And he has put up offensive numbers similar to Coyle.

Jeff Skinner? High-end skill, but can we afford him? Would he sign here?

 

[DKH]

what's your prediction?

Bruins win the Cup

All I can do is end result and that’s it - how many or who stars no idea

My only player comment is I expect Johansson comes up big

I’ll stick with those two

 

[finchster]

I think if they win the Cup they will act a bit differently if they don’t

When it’s all over it will be fascinating to dive into but until then I am not sure how it will end

I understand if they win the cup, there will be less impetus on making a 'big move'. However, I think it is a mistake; Chiarelli's fatal flaw was falling in love with the 2011 guys, and not looking to improve. A good GM should be in on every piece they feel will help the team. Obviously cap constraints need to be taken into an account, but it's not as if there is no possibility for the Bruins to get better or younger.

 

[Fopppa]

I understand if they win the cup, there will be less impetus on making a 'big move'. However, I think it is a mistake; Chiarelli's fatal flaw was falling in love with the 2011 guys, and not looking to improve. A good GM should be in on every piece they feel will help the team. Obviously cap constraints need to be taken into an account, but it's not as if there is no possibility for the Bruins to get better or younger.

I think if they win it, it will be much easier for Sweeney to make a biggish adjustment in the vein of moving Krug/Backes or even Krejci to re-model the team for the future. If they don't win it'll be a hard sell to management, fans and the roster itself to not have another crack while the vets are still viable players. Sweeney's mandate to restructure will be much stronger with a Cup under his belt.

If they do win and Krug and Backes are somehow moved it would open up a plethora of options to re-build the forward corps, be it UFA:s, RFA:s or via trade.

 

[BruinDust]

With the roster as currently constructed, talking about the Bruins going after this guy or that guy in free agency is pointless. Because guess what, once they extend Carlo, McAvoy, and Heinen, they got very little cap space left, certainly no where close enough to bring in anyone of significance. So forget Lee, or Duchene, or Skinner, or whoever, because they can't afford them without making other moves first. You can also rule out extending Johansson.

This 23-man roster with 83 million cap is at about roughly 82 million

Marchand
Pastrnak
Bergeron
Krejci
Debrusk
Heinen (extended with bridge at 2.75 per)
Coyle
Backes
Kuraly
Nordstrom
Wagner
Kuhlman
Frederic

Chara
Krug
Moore
Gryz
Carlo (extended long-term at 4.5 per)
McAvoy (extended with bridge at 5.0 per)
Clifton
Miller

Rask
Halak

Where are they creating space to make bigger moves? Obviously they would trade Backes but count me among those who don't believe that is possible without sending something significant with him (and finding somewhere for him to go).

 

[Domenic Pazzia]

What are realistic trade targets? Like a Krug for a Kyle Palmieri? Saves us about a mil and gives a winger to play with Krejci and DeBrusk. Then slide one of our younger defense man up with all the depth we have .

 

[BB88]

I just can't get myself into paying Krug the money he could get in the UFA market, rather use it on offense and go

Chara- McAvoy (bridge)
Grzelcyk- Carlo (4Mx6y)
Vaakanainen- x
Moore
on defense.

 

[DKH]

I understand if they win the cup, there will be less impetus on making a 'big move'. However, I think it is a mistake; Chiarelli's fatal flaw was falling in love with the 2011 guys, and not looking to improve. A good GM should be in on every piece they feel will help the team. Obviously cap constraints need to be taken into an account, but it's not as if there is no possibility for the Bruins to get better or younger.

I think if they win they will be less likely to fall in love

However- logic would figure next year is the last for Chara - and Krug a UFA. They would have to overhaul the left side but it would be cheap and they have a bunch of players who should be ready to enter the deep end.

The right side would seem very strong with young hopefully battle tested players in McAvoy Carlo Clifton. Miller probably is around next year as well.

No need to do anything at center other than likely extend Coyle- Frederic, Studnicka, JFK (who played well last 2 months in Providence) are on the periphery

The big change would be on D

Moving Backes contract would be a priority I’d think above the D this summer win or lose

 

[Kalus]

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We will be fine for next season cap wise
We will need to move Miller or Moore for cap space...if we can’t unload Backes

We will most likely trade Miller and Keep Moore

Because Moore will be kept so he can go to Seattle in 20-21 in the expansion draft

I could see Krug traded if they win the cup and can’t agree to an extension this summer but if we don’t win the cup Krug is staying

And I still think Backes could be moved to a salary floor team having already been paid 23 of his 30 million

If we can move Backes we would have 10 million to play with and could bring back Mojo or sign someone for Krejci or Bergeron wing if they don’t trust the kids

Budget an add'l $1.5m for Chara's bonus as he will likely play 10 games ($1.5m) and the team will likely make the playoffs ($0.25M).

 

[Fenian24]

Budget an add'l $1.5m for Chara's bonus as he will likely play 10 games ($1.5m) and the team will likely make the playoffs ($0.25M).

I believe that tags over into 20-21 and not next years cap.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

What are realistic trade targets? Like a Krug for a Kyle Palmieri? Saves us about a mil and gives a winger to play with Krejci and DeBrusk. Then slide one of our younger defense man up with all the depth we have .

not a fan of giving up Krug for a forward he outscores consistently

 

[8thRoundPick]

Bruins win the Cup

All I can do is end result and that’s it - how many or who stars no idea

My only player comment is I expect Johansson comes up big

I’ll stick with those two

The 'Rich Peverley' effect. A 3rd line scoring threat has the ability to turn this contender into a champion. And they are proving it on the ice this entire playoff season.