2019 1st Round Pick Watch / Scoreboard and Standings Thread

[stan the caddy]

I think the Rangers will bless fans with a whole bunch of losing seasons for quite some time.

 

[Edge]

I see a team with a less favorable schedule in the second half, a defense that is predictably collapsing on itself, and rookies who have hit the wall.

Combine that with the loss of some key players — via trade and injury (always happens), and I see a team right around the 5th overall pick.

If this team were to suffer a major injury to one of Zibanejad, Kreider or Lundqvist, I think that would pretty much be a death blow.

But as is, I’m sticking with my 4-6 prediction and splitting the difference at 5.

 

[Kovalev27]

Now 4th worst in goal differential. Dead last in ROWs and we haven’t even started the sell off yet. I also don’t think this coach is getting thru to anyone. At least not this group. And that may be more on the soft personnel than him I’m not sure.

But 5 pts clear of dead last. I think we’re headed for the bottom 3. Really do. You have Zibanejad go down forget it god forbid. Hank goes down? You’re done.

I don’t think there is a team below us right now that’s actually a worse team than us.

 

[Elliman]

Once the deals are made we’ll have younger hungry players come up or over and we’ll win some which will keep us from getting the best odds for #1 OV

 

[kovazub94]

Once the deals are made we’ll have younger hungry players come up or over and we’ll win some which will keep us from getting the best odds for #1 OV

You mean like all these wins in the last two weeks since Hayes got injured? What have you been watching?

 

[Inferno]

The funny thing about this team is that...as bad as the defense has been...and it's been bad..I feel like the forwards are more disappointing....the puck support in the defensive zone is sketchy at best. Still lots of vigneault in their games.

 

[Irishguy42]

Decent night for the tank so far. Hope CHI/NJD is a 3 point game, but w/e

 

[Irishguy42]

If scores hold, NYR will be in 25th, 4 points out of 31st.

 

[Elliman]

You mean like all these wins in the last two weeks since Hayes got injured? What have you been watching?

Same as you buddy. When we call up hungry young players with players acquired in the deadline deals the team will win some on that alone (passion, proving they belong, ect)

I’m not taking about Chytil or Anderson or the deangelo types... talking guys who haven’t seen NHL ice before.

 

[kovazub94]

Same as you buddy. When we call up hungry young players with players acquired in the deadline deals the team will win some on that alone (passion, proving they belong, ect)

I’m not taking about Chytil or Anderson or the deangelo types... talking guys who haven’t seen NHL ice before.

So let me get it straight - replacing Hayes and Zuke with some guys who haven’t seen nhl ice before (not Chytil or Andersson as you specifically noted) will produce guaranteed wins?

 

[nyr2k2]

So let me get it straight - replacing Hayes and Zuke with some guys who haven’t seen nhl ice before (not Chytil or Andersson as you specifically noted) will produce guaranteed wins?

The way that person is describing it sounds kind of implausible, for sure. I inderstund the premise, though. It's like after the TDL last year we immediately went 6-2-2 or something like that. And we had been something terrible like 3-14 the month leading up to it. Of course we then won just 2 of our final 11 or whatever.

I get the idea, though, as guys are dragging a little, knowing they're probably going to get traded. Other guys don't know what will happen to them. The rest, they're feeling it, too, because their buddies might be on the way out. I imagine it's a weird feeling being on a team like ours headed to the deadline, when anywhere from 5-10 players could conceivably be traded.

And then the deadline comes and goes, the remaining guys can chill out and get back to just worrying about playing. Some younger guys come up who have been chomping at the bit and they provide a jolt of energy. You have less talent than you did before but the guys are more motivated, more focused.

That's the theory, anyway. Whether it happens that way is obviously impossible to know.

 

[eco's bones]

35 games left and we have 43 points. IMO we'll end up low 70's--maybe less than that depending on who we trade. That will probably put us in the worst 5 or 6. We're not going to be worst and we'll be lucky to get in the top 3.

 

[Rangers in 7]

35 games left and we have 43 points. IMO we'll end up low 70's--maybe less than that depending on who we trade. That will probably put us in the worst 5 or 6. We're not going to be worst and we'll be lucky to get in the top 3.

It’s possible we could be worst. We are 4 points out of the bottom and have the least regulation and overtime wins. They are going to get worse before they get better

 

[kovazub94]

The way that person is describing it sounds kind of implausible, for sure. I inderstund the premise, though. It's like after the TDL last year we immediately went 6-2-2 or something like that. And we had been something terrible like 3-14 the month leading up to it. Of course we then won just 2 of our final 11 or whatever.

I get the idea, though, as guys are dragging a little, knowing they're probably going to get traded. Other guys don't know what will happen to them. The rest, they're feeling it, too, because their buddies might be on the way out. I imagine it's a weird feeling being on a team like ours headed to the deadline, when anywhere from 5-10 players could conceivably be traded.

And then the deadline comes and goes, the remaining guys can chill out and get back to just worrying about playing. Some younger guys come up who have been chomping at the bit and they provide a jolt of energy. You have less talent than you did before but the guys are more motivated, more focused.

That's the theory, anyway. Whether it happens that way is obviously impossible to know.

I understand that a relief after the TDL could bringing the team together to put together a few wins but it won’t be these new guys who’d be driving such streak.

 

[tradenashnow]

I think the Rangers will bless fans with a whole bunch of losing seasons for quite some time.

I don't agree. I think Shesterkin, Lindgren, Miller, Lundqkvist, Hajek, Kravtsov will energize this team. I also think there is a really good chance Panarin signs here. He loves NY and is reported to want to play here. You bring him here, your team becomes a lot better right away. For the first time I'm starting to believe that Chytil will take a big step forward offensively fairly soon. Andersson when he rounds out his game will be a winning player.

 

[Profet]

I think Panarin ends up on the Islanders. He fits their window, and they need to make it up to their fans for losing Tavares.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Athletic's Dom Luszczyszyn had the Rangers 4th yesterday morning. The Rangers have been as high as 6th when they were playing well earlier this season.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Seventeen of their 18 games beginning on Feb. 1 are against playoff/ bubble teams. Toughest part of the schedule IMO and leads right into the deadline.

The post-deadline schedule will be irrelevant. This team, even with youngsters giving their all, should lock up being a bottom-three team by early March.

 

[Irishguy42]

Another big night tonight.

DET/ANA - hope for DET ROW
NJD/CBJ - hope for NJD ROW
LAK/MIN - hope for LAK ROW
FLA/MTL - hope for FLA ROW
STL/NYI - hope for STL ROW

If the LAK/FLA/DET games go as hoped and NYR lose in regulation, that effectively drops us to 26th (not 27th b/c DET has more GP, which is first tiebreaker atm) and within 3 pts of 31st

 

[nyr2k2]

I understand that a relief after the TDL could bringing the team together to put together a few wins but it won’t be these new guys who’d be driving such streak.

I could see Andersson making an impact. I've been of the opinion that had Andersson taken Howden's minutes a couple months ago and Howden taken a fourth line role, that there would have been increased production there. I could also see Bigras stepping in for a Smith or Staal or McQuaid and improving production. Otherwise you'd have to "hope" that someone like Spooner came back and played well like he did last year.

Otherwise, they're far more likely to be worse after the TDL. I can however see a scenario where in-house guys come up and provide some improvement. Even a guy like Meskanen could be better than a Namestnikov in terms of production. But that's all speculation.

 

[kovazub94]

I could see Andersson making an impact. I've been of the opinion that had Andersson taken Howden's minutes a couple months ago and Howden taken a fourth line role, that there would have been increased production there. I could also see Bigras stepping in for a Smith or Staal or McQuaid and improving production. Otherwise you'd have to "hope" that someone like Spooner came back and played well like he did last year.

Otherwise, they're far more likely to be worse after the TDL. I can however see a scenario where in-house guys come up and provide some improvement. Even a guy like Meskanen could be better than a Namestnikov in terms of production. But that's all speculation.

I'll say it's highly doubtful. The only fringe NHL up front right now is Nieves and maybe Howden (McLeod has a specific role). I'd be VERY surprised if any current Wolfpacks could come in and do better than these guys and even more so than the Rangers next higher tier like Buchnevich, Fast, Namestnikov or Vesey. That includes Andersson where I know our opinions differ - Howden hasn't done much but even that was way better than anything that Andersson has done.

 

[nyr2k2]

I don't have The Athletic so I can't post an update of what RB posted, but here is Tankathon after last night:

 

[Rangers in 7]

I don't have The Athletic so I can't post an update of what RB posted, but here is Tankathon after last night:

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luckily there is alot of season to play and a lot of games to lose

 

[CasusBelli]

I think the Rangers will bless fans with a whole bunch of losing seasons for quite some time.

Remarkable how well we do with later round selections and undrafted players, compared to first round selections. Then again, we went quite some time without a first round pick.

 

[E-Train]

Big wins by OTT & PHI tonight. AZ already up 2-0. Won't be a long journey to the bottom.