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GDT: 2018 WJC • Game 02 • Group B: BLR (1) - SWE (6) F

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Which team wins this game?

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Please just this once... the Canucks get the lottery right.

I'm salivating at the thought of Dahlin and Petterson on the same team and also feeding pucks to Boeser.
 
Grub said:
Please just this once... the Canucks get the lottery right.

I'm salivating at the thought of Dahlin and Petterson on the same team and also feeding pucks to Boeser.
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I'll second that! I would like to see the Canucks get a bit of luck in the lottery!
 
crossbownerf said:
Loading the 1st line makes the 2nd useless.
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Yeah but that doesn't mean you should put someone who is completely lacking offensive instincts there.

Nylander probably just needed some time to get accustomed to the new surroundings he got better and better as the game progressed.
 
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Chainshot said:
I still don't get people beefing on Liljegren for that SHGA. That's all Nylander.
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If it's Swedish posters, I think a lot of comes from our experts being very harsh on him in the intermission. Mikael Renberg basically blamed the SHGA all on him, with solid reasoning such as: "I know he fell down as he tried to turn, but he lunged for the puck and I think it would have been much better if he stayed on his feet." He then went on to highlight Timothy flubbing a pass and question his hockey intelligence and decision-making, somehow.

Something I've realized over the years is that we fans are much more influenced by what experts and commentators say than we'd probably like to think. An example of that I always go for is how it became universal truth that Zaitsev got promoted from third pairing with Hunwick after only half a pre-season game there, after one of the commentators said so later on in the game. Thing is, Hunwick never even played in the game. Twitter, HF, Facebook, all talked about Zaitsev being so impressive on a pairing with a guy not even in the game that he was promoted right away.

DownGoesMcDavid said:
Liljegren was meh, i thought he was the 4th best Dman on Sweden today
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Yeah, I'd agree with that. Not a banner night for him.

Thing with Lilygrin is that he often looks a little out of it as he settles into a new team or tournament. Once he settles down, he'll likely look better.
 
Chainshot said:
I still don't get people beefing on Liljegren for that SHGA. That's all Nylander.
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I actually thought if he would have conceded the bad pass, he would have easily chased the player down with his speed or could have taken a penalty on the play. He made a high risk atempt and took himself out of the play.
 
Watched the game earlier today and clearly, some people in this thread must have watched different games.

Thought Andersson, Nylander, Karlstrom looked great in particular (Alex looked awful on that 1 play). Nylander made a suicide pass to Liljegren that was 90% on him, but Liljegren deserves some very minuscule degree of blame on that chance as well, looks like he stumbles on a hard pivot and tries lunging at the puck when falling. Clearly, I was watching a different game if people think that was on Timmy. That said, Timmy did get overshadowed a bit playing a simple, solid, unassuming fundamentals game against a weak team when others were producing on the stat sheet. But against a weak team, I take some solace that Liljegren can simplify his game which can be a real problem for defenders at the next level.



Here's the play on social media.

As for the D, I don't think anyone stood out, save perhaps Brannstrom because he scored. Brannstrom overskates far too much in his own end still. Liljegren just looked solid and somewhat under the radar, he has routinely started out slow every event so far post-draft (WJSS, training-camp, etc.). I thought he could have generated more but he didn't look out of place. Dahlin was also solid, hard to really judge his play off a 1 game sample size, don't think he stood out in particular but people already have a preconceived notion in their minds so they'll overstate his performance today (he's clearly that caliber of talent but if we're judging strictly on today's performance, there were no particular standouts at D). Though I do think Dahlin deserves a lot of credit for showing he can play an under-the-radar effective, simple game.

I would say in general, you can't take too much stock in today's performance against a weak team. I don't think anyone particularly looked good or bad enough to make sweeping conclusions. For example, I've seen enough of Brannstrom since before the draft to be thoroughly unimpressed, relative to say, Button's perception of him. Again, this was one of those dumpster fire games you can place almost no stock in- particularly because none of the top prospects looked remotely bad.
 
firstemperor said:
Watched the game earlier today and clearly, some people in this thread must have watched different games.

Thought Andersson, Nylander, Karlstrom looked great in particular (Alex looked awful on that 1 play). Nylander made a suicide pass to Liljegren that was 90% on him, but Liljegren deserves some very minuscule degree of blame on that chance as well, looks like he stumbles on a hard pivot and tries lunging at the puck when falling. Clearly, I was watching a different game if people think that was on Timmy. That said, Timmy did get overshadowed a bit playing a simple, solid, unassuming fundamentals game against a weak team when others were producing on the stat sheet. But against a weak team, I take some solace that Liljegren can simplify his game which can be a real problem for defenders at the next level.



Here's the play on social media.

As for the D, I don't think anyone stood out, save perhaps Brannstrom because he scored. Brannstrom overskates far too much in his own end still. Liljegren just looked solid and somewhat under the radar, he has routinely started out slow every event so far post-draft (WJSS, training-camp, etc.). I thought he could have generated more but he didn't look out of place. Dahlin was also solid, hard to really judge his play off a 1 game sample size, don't think he stood out in particular but people already have a preconceived notion in their minds so they'll overstate his performance today (he's clearly that caliber of talent but if we're judging strictly on today's performance, there were no particular standouts at D). Though I do think Dahlin deserves a lot of credit for showing he can play an under-the-radar effective, simple game.

I would say in general, you can't take too much stock in today's performance against a weak team. I don't think anyone particularly looked good or bad enough to make sweeping conclusions. For example, I've seen enough of Brannstrom since before the draft to be thoroughly unimpressed, relative to say, Button's perception of him. Again, this was one of those dumpster fire games you can place almost no stock in- particularly because none of the top prospects looked remotely bad.
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That's white clearly Nylander's fault. Thought he got much stronger as the game went on. He should be leading Sweden in points by the end of the tourney, as he did last year.
 
Nylander started poorly, but got better and better.

Much like the rest of the team, could have been a bigger win with some luck.
 
Nylander makes that pass 99 times out of 100, this was the 100th. Nothing more to it really, great intercept by the Belarus player.
 
VictorLustig said:
Nylander makes that pass 99 times out of 100, this was the 100th. Nothing more to it really, great intercept by the Belarus player.
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The second try that succeeded touched the stick of a BLRs players as well. I guess he will sharpen up his game a bit more until the finals but I have to admit that he made me a bit nervous when he touched the puck yesterday
 
VictorLustig said:
Nylander makes that pass 99 times out of 100, this was the 100th. Nothing more to it really, great intercept by the Belarus player.
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Finally seeing that play, that's an amazing play by the Belarus forward.

Nylander went high risk there and lost but redeemed himself later. (Or so I heard) I guess Liljegren could have not stumbled as he tried to accelerate there but that Belarussian player was really fast too.

Sometimes the other team just makes great plays and there is no need to tear players down.
 
VictorLustig said:
Nylander makes that pass 99 times out of 100, this was the 100th. Nothing more to it really, great intercept by the Belarus player.
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It was a bit telegraphed, and lacked a bit execution. But yeah, primarily a great intercept, and nothing wrong with the idea from Nylander either.

romelson said:
This is BS. Renberg blamed Nylander, but he also criticised the way Liljegren handled the situation, which by all means was justified. But I guess swedish fans arent listening very soberly.
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He mentioned Nylander, then shifted the focus to Liljegren, and then later recapped it by saying how he doesn't like how Lily played that, with barely a mention of Alex.

And as I see it, Liljegren's play on that goal was inconsequential. When the forward breaks a pass at that point and is already moving forward, he is pretty much gone.
 
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