2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[le_sean]

He couldn't and wouldn't.. and the WHL historically is the league the most like the NHL in terms of playing style. The point totals in the QMJHL aren't all that high this year because there isn't a lot of talent league wide there. It's a down crop for the Q.

I would argue the Q is starting to produce much better defencemen the last few years. Not top pairing guys, but NHL players nonetheless. A lot of teams have a stud or two on the backend, something we didn't really see in that league before.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The overrating of Zadina has begun now that people are convinced he's the Habs pick.

If you think he would have gone ahead of a 6'2 RH center with top line potential.. well, I don't know what to tell you

 

[Mrb1p]

The overrating of Zadina has begun now that people are convinced he's the Habs pick.

If you think he would have gone ahead of a 6'2 RH center with top line potential.. well, I don't know what to tell you

To be honest, positions aside, he's pretty much a similar level prospect.

 

[WeThreeKings]

To be honest, positions aside, he's pretty much a similar level prospect.

Don't see it. He's a tier below. You'll never get Glass from Vegas offering up Zadina.

 

[schnapshot]

The Q is the league with the least talent, that's pretty much a fact, it's watered down unlike the OHL.

That’s true, mostly I think because the population it covers is much smaller (10.5M for the Q, 13M for the O and 11M for the W).

The Q and the W however are pretty much on par when it comes to producing NHL talent.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

Don't see it. He's a tier below. You'll never get Glass from Vegas offering up Zadina.

I definitely think Glass, Pettersson and Heiskanen would have gone ahead of Zadina, but it's mostly due to position IMO. Stat-wise and overall skill level i think they're similar.

It's a case of when the prospects are similar, you go for more important position and need.

 

[The Great Weal]

Zadina is a 30/30 guy who could hit 65 points a few season. Don't think he becomes much more, and he will need the elite center with him to get the 30+ goals.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

Zadina is a 30/30 guy who could hit 65 points a few season. Don't think he becomes much more, and he will need the elite center with him to get the 30+ goals.

With his shot and hands he can potential hit 40 in his peak seasons. But I 100% agree with you that he needs an elite centre.

So were back to having some nice complimentary pieces with nobody to set them up.

Probably why I'd go with Boqvist.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Zadina is a 30/30 guy who could hit 65 points a few season. Don't think he becomes much more, and he will need the elite center with him to get the 30+ goals.

That's the vibe that I get from him as well, but it feels lazy. Like ''high octane offensive guy but not a super play maker? oh, he's a 30 30 guy.'' Watching some more games meow.

 

[Mrb1p]

Zadina is a 30/30 guy who could hit 65 points a few season. Don't think he becomes much more, and he will need the elite center with him to get the 30+ goals.

That's an elite piece to have though, 30/30 consistently is a top 10 winger.

 

[Mrb1p]

I feel WTK has pushed the "Zadina is meh" to the max these last few days, he's pretty far from that. He's better than any prospect the Habs have had in decades save for Galchenyuk and Price.

 

[Janne Niinimaa]

That's an elite piece to have though, 30/30 consistently is a top 10 winger.

DO you think he can be that on this team? Drouin plays too quick for Zadina's style IMO. A centre like Tavares would get the best out of Zadina. But we don't have that centre for him.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I feel WTK has pushed the "Zadina is meh" to the max these last few days, he's pretty far from that. He's better than any prospect the Habs have had in decades save for Galchenyuk and Price.

I never said he was meh. He's a goal scoring winger who's gonna need a play driver on his line. He doesn't rate up as high as Voracek, Hischier, Ehlers, MacKinnon or Drouin from their draft years. You would like to get more at #3.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

It'd be nice if we could pull this off:
24th (Minny) for 35th + 57th and Pacioretty for 15th + Mascherin.

 

[NotProkofievian]

It'd be nice if we could pull this off:
24th (Minny) for 35th + 57th and Pacioretty for 15th + Mascherin.

Zadina + Kaut + Tychonick on my list. Playing my list against Bob McKenzie's it would be Zadina + Kravtsov + Unknown (probs Alexeyev).

Two wingers and a D.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Zadina + Kaut + Tychonick on my list. Playing my list against Bob McKenzie's it would be Zadina + Kravtsov + Unknown (probs Alexeyev).

Two wingers and a D.

Second list is better.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Second list is better.

That's cuz I'm playing against weaker opposition (consensus ranking of NHL scouts, instead of my own list, aka da troof).

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Zadina + Kaut + Tychonick on my list. Playing my list against Bob McKenzie's it would be Zadina + Kravtsov + Unknown (probs Alexeyev).

Two wingers and a D.

Wouldn't mind picking a C like Berggren at 15 to guarantee picking a C if we go with Zadina for our top pick.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Wouldn't mind picking a C like Berggren at 15 to guarantee picking a C if we go with Zadina for our top pick.

I think muh boy Barry will play wing from now on. He's 14 on my list. Kaut is 15.

 

[Runner77]

Zadina is a 30/30 guy who could hit 65 points a few season. Don't think he becomes much more, and he will need the elite center with him to get the 30+ goals.

We need scoring. He provides it. What's not to like?

 

[The Great Weal]

I never said it was a bad thing to have a 30/30 guy.

 

[Runner77]

I never said it was a bad thing to have a 30/30 guy.

My comment was rhetorical.

However, I believe you prefer some of the other options at the no. 3 slot. Maybe it was Boqvist but you're reticent on account of his concussions.

 

[The Great Weal]

You guys got Berggren high.

 

[The Great Weal]

My comment was rhetorical.

However, I believe you prefer some of the other options at the no. 3 slot. Maybe it was Boqvist but you're reticent on account of his concussions.

I don't really think there is a big difference. Whether it be Wahlstrom or Zadina, they will need that elite center to feed them to start scoring tons of goals. I would still be fine with Boqvist at 3, I'd just be more cautious with him.

 

[NotProkofievian]

You guys got Berggren high.

Takes are meant to be hot, breau.