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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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BeliveauFan4ever said:
A wealth of games watching Hayton score in a variety of ways while playing a complete game against good competition, regular season and playoffs.

And you?
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Exactly. Offensively, he's one-way. He's a shooting threat and generates with good puck skills and a nose for the net but I don't see someone who sets the table for his wingers.
 
G0bias said:
Exactly. Offensively, he's one-way. He's a shooting threat and generates with good puck skills and a nose for the net but I don't see someone who sets the table for his linemates.
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Hahahaha. Is this the new "tunnel vision" nonsense you're latching on to?

Yeah that must explain his steady rise in the rankings.

Tells me you haven't seen him nearly enough.
 
ProspectsFanatic said:
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Love the av, buddy.

Barry bless.
 
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They probably asked Tkachuk at dinner if he sees himself as a potential center. And of course he said yes, doing it with karakter more so, and we are ****** ! Seriously I'm not that worry, but it seems very clear that Zadina is out of the picture, unless I missed something. Still think they won't pass on the chance to pick a good center with good IQ and vision, that would be hard to explain to that media after whining countless times that trades are hard, can't get a center etc...
 
KFlint said:
They probably asked Tkachuk at dinner if he sees himself as a potential center. And of course he said yes, doing it with karakter more so, and we are ****** ! Seriously I'm not that worry, but it seems very clear that Zadina is out of the picture, unless I missed something. Still think they won't pass on the chance to pick a good center with good IQ and vision, that would be hard to explain to that media after whining countless times that trades are hard, can't get a center etc...
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KFlint said:
They probably asked Tkachuk at dinner if he sees himself as a potential center. And of course he said yes, doing it with karakter more so, and we are ****** ! Seriously I'm not that worry, but it seems very clear that Zadina is out of the picture, unless I missed something. Still think they won't pass on the chance to pick a good center with good IQ and vision, that would be hard to explain to that media after whining countless times that trades are hard, can't get a center etc...
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Free Agency (this should be a walk-in clinic designed to assist Habs' fans suffering under Bergy and predecessors) is where he might lift rocks, and of course, trading.

Shudder-worthy, either way.
 
ToLegitToQuit said:
Can anyone help me out here? I've been looking for guys like Kotkaniemi who skyrocketed into the top 5 due to hype at the end of the year and were ranked 10-15 (+/-) mid season. Looking for guys who had lots of hype later in the year but busted? I found a few who ended up being very good picks and trying to measure this against other busts.

- Pettersson: Mid season rank was 11 and final rank was 7. Would he of been a stretch to take earlier? I think not

- Heiskanen: Mid season rank was 13 and final rank was 3. Bad pick? Good Pick? You tell me.

- PLD: Mid season rank was 8 and final rank was 5. Blue Jackets took him 3rd.

- Keller: Mid season rank was 15 and final rank was 8. Would he of been a bad pick at 3rd? I think not!

- Draisaitl ? Can't find info on him (mid vs final ranking)

There has to be a few picks who where ranked 10-15 range mid season, dropped in rankings at the end of the year due to hype, were taken in the top 5, but busted? Anybody remember any?
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Huberdeau and Scheifele.

Scheifele started unranked, finished 12th and picked 7th. Close.
 
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BeliveauFan4ever said:
Hahahaha. Is this the new "tunnel vision" nonsense you're latching on to?

Yeah that must explain his steady rise in the rankings.

Tells me you haven't seen him nearly enough.
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Rankings. Well guess that's it then. No point arguing further, specially when they've shown to be always accurate.

Veleno's shot sucks. But that can't be true since you know, he went up rankings.
 
If the Habs take Tkachuk then I have to trust Timmins. I still think the Finnish kid is getting picked.
I personally hope for Dobson. He is a cant miss player
 
I've modified this so much over the past month that there has to be like 10 duplicates and twenty players I've forgot in there. Went with a fun but useless EA style rating for each player. (High to Low in likeliness to hit potential, Potential being : Franchise, Elite Top6/Top 4, Top 9/top 6, 4th line/7th D.)

1-Rasmus Dahlin Franchise Medium
2-Andrei Svechnikov Franchise Medium
3-Jesperi Kotkaniemi Elite Medium
4-Adam Boqvist Franchise Low
5-Filip Zadina Elite medium
6-Noah Dobson Top 4 High
7-Quinn Hughes Franchise low
8-Brady Tkachuk Top 6 high
9-Vitali Kravtsov Elite Low
10-Alexander Alexeyev Elite Low
11-Ty Smith Elite Low
12-Nils Lundkvist Elite low
13-Oliver Wahlstrom Elite low
14-Evan Bouchard Elite Low
15- Jonathan Berggren Elite Low
16- Joel Farabee Top 6 medium
17- Alexander Khovanov Top 6 Medium
18- Grigori Denisenko Elite Low
19- Dominik Bokk Top 6 medium
20- Ty Dellandrea Top 6 medium
21- Isac Lundestrom Top 6 Low
22- Calen Addison Top 4 Medium
23- Rasmus Kupari Top 6 Low
24- Jacob Bernard Docker Top 4 Medium
25- Jonny Tychonick Top 6 Medium
26- Bode Wilde Top 4 Medium
27-Joe Veleno Top 9 High
28- Akil Thomas Top 9 Medium
29- Jesse Ylonen Top 6 Medium
30- Jake Wise Top 6 Low
31- Martin Kaut Top 9 High
32-Cole Fonstad Top 6 Low
33- David Gustafsson Top 6 Low
34- Blake McLaughlin Top 6 Low
35-Barret Hayton Top 9 Medium
36-Filip Hallander Top 9 High
37-Jacob Olofsson top 9 medium
38-Jay O’brien WHO FN KNOWS REALLY
39-Jack Drury Top 9 Medium
40- Blade Jenkins Top 6 Medium
41-Rasmus Sandin Top 6 High
42-K’andre Miller Top 4 Low
43-Seron Noel Bottom 6 Medium
44- Bulat Shafigulin Top 6 Low
45- Liam Foudy Top 9 Medium
46- Ryan Merkley Elite Low, very low.
47- Ivan Morozov Top 6 Low
48- Kiril Marchenko Top 6 Low
49-Ryan McLoed Top 9 Medium
50- Jett Woo Top 6 Medium
51-Albin Eriksson Top 9 Medium
52- Semyon Der-Arguchintsev Top 9 Low
53-Nicolas Beaudin Top 6 Medium
54-Ruslan Ishkakov Top 6 Low
55- Jared McIsaac Top 6 Medium
56- Cam Hillis Top 9 Medium
57-Danila Zurahlyov Top 9 Medium
58-Milos Roman Top 9 Medium
59- Jacob Ragnarsson Top 6 Medium
60 Philip Kurashev Top 9 Low
61- Matej Pekar Top 9 Low
62- Jack McBain Top 9 Low

My confidence is good over 36, but after that it's mostly a crap shoot of talent that is all mostly similar.
 
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1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov

3. Bouchard
4. Dobson
5. Zadina

6. Kotkaniemi
7. Tkachuk
8. Hughes
9. Kravtsov
10. Wahlstrom

11. Hayton
12. Farabee
13. Kupari
14. Boqvist
15. Veleno
16. Smith

17. McIsaac
18. Lundestrom
19. Sandin
20. Kaut
21. Berggren
22. Alexeyev
23. Denisenko
24. Olofsson

25. Thomas
26. Hallander
27. Bokk
28. Merkley
29. Miller
30. McLeod

HM: Dellandrea, Roman, Wilde


There it is. Hours of watching and arguing in one list. Big values for me are: improvement from one season to the next, skating ability relative to position (multi-directional mobility being key for Cs and Ds IMO), offensive skill, positional need (Habs), season over tournament numbers and performance, exposure (Canadian Junior and SHL/Allsvenskan being the ones I've watched the most), and some consideration for combine and interview news or rumours. Split into six tiers, but the last tier could reach until 40ish. Didn't spend as much time on HF as I did other sites this year, but the Draft Thread here has always been a good one.

Looking forward to the big day!
 
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G0bias said:
Rankings. Well guess that's it then. No point arguing further, specially when they've shown to be always accurate.

Veleno's shot sucks. But that can't be true since you know, he went up rankings.
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Still waiting for the "two-way street" breakdown of your Fab Four.

So far, crickets.

And to be clear I'm calling BS on Hayton as "one-way street" on O.
 
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Mrb1p said:
I've modified this so much over the past month that there has to be like 10 duplicates and twenty players I've forgot in there. Went with a fun but useless EA style rating for each player. (High to Low in likeliness to hit potential, Potential being : Franchise, Elite Top6/Top 4, Top 9/top 6, 4th line/7th D.)

1-Rasmus Dahlin Franchise Medium
2-Andrei Svechnikov Franchise Medium
3-Jesperi Kotkaniemi Elite Medium
4-Adam Boqvist Franchise Low
5-Filip Zadina Elite medium
6-Noah Dobson Top 4 High
7-Quinn Hughes Franchise low
8-Brady Tkachuk Top 6 high
9-Vitali Kravtsov Elite Low
10-Alexander Alexeyev Elite Low
11-Ty Smith Elite Low
12-Nils Lundkvist Elite low
13-Oliver Wahlstrom Elite low
14-Evan Bouchard Elite Low
15- Jonathan Berggren Elite Low
16- Joel Farabee Top 6 medium
17- Alexander Khovanov Top 6 Medium
18- Grigori Denisenko Elite Low
19- Dominik Bokk Top 6 medium
20- Ty Dellandrea Top 6 medium
21- Isac Lundestrom Top 6 Low
22- Calen Addison Top 4 Medium
23- Rasmus Kupari Top 6 Low
24- Jacob Bernard Docker Top 4 Medium
25- Jonny Tychonick Top 6 Medium
26- Bode Wilde Top 4 Medium
27-Joe Veleno Top 9 High
28- Akil Thomas Top 9 Medium
29- Jesse Ylonen Top 6 Medium
30- Jake Wise Top 6 Low
31- Martin Kaut Top 9 High
32-Cole Fonstad Top 6 Low
33- David Gustafsson Top 6 Low
34- Blake McLaughlin Top 6 Low
35-Barret Hayton Top 9 Medium
36-Filip Hallander Top 9 High
37-Jacob Olofsson top 9 medium
38-Jay O’brien WHO FN KNOWS REALLY
39-Jack Drury Top 9 Medium
40- Blade Jenkins Top 6 Medium
41-Rasmus Sandin Top 6 High
42-K’andre Miller Top 4 Low
43-Seron Noel Bottom 6 Medium
44- Bulat Shafigulin Top 6 Low
45- Liam Foudy Top 9 Medium
46- Ryan Merkley Elite Low, very low.
47- Ivan Morozov Top 6 Low
48- Kiril Marchenko Top 6 Low
49-Ryan McLoed Top 9 Medium
50- Jett Woo Top 6 Medium
51-Albin Eriksson Top 9 Medium
52- Semyon Der-Arguchintsev Top 9 Low
53-Nicolas Beaudin Top 6 Medium
54-Ruslan Ishkakov Top 6 Low
55- Jared McIsaac Top 6 Medium
56- Cam Hillis Top 9 Medium
57-Danila Zurahlyov Top 9 Medium
58-Milos Roman Top 9 Medium
59- Jacob Ragnarsson Top 6 Medium
60 Philip Kurashev Top 9 Low
61- Matej Pekar Top 9 Low
62- Jack McBain Top 9 Low

My confidence is good over 36, but after that it's mostly a crap shoot of talent that is all mostly similar.
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Good stuff.
 
BeliveauFan4ever said:
Still waiting for the "two-way street" breakdown of your Fab Four.

So far, crickets.

And to be clear I'm calling BS on Hayton as "one-way street" on O.
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Initial post was about Farabee, as in player who's often ranked in the same range. You decided to shift goalposts to centers - which everyone knows is a weak class.

Explain how Hayton's more of a double-threat than Kravtsov, Farabee, Berggren. Go
 
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What’s really the problem about having dinner with most of the top 10?

Seriously overbashing waste so most space on these forums.

Sometimes you talk to others to make sure your initial candidate is right up there.
 
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Wouldn't they just smoke-screen with Zadina if the plan is to trade down? There's no way to really know for sure but I'm assuming he's the more coveted by teams between him and Tkachuk.
 
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