2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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I won't speak to Morozov or O'Brien, but Dellandrea is a complete center. His playmaking skills are excellent and so is his ability to score.

He played on a really **** team & still finished only one point behind Hayton & scored more goals. Meanwhile, Hayton played on the best offensive team in the OHL.

Dellandrea did everything for Flint. Hayton had support.

Hayton will go earlier than Dellandrea, but they're not that far apart.

Not sure why you're so gung-ho on Hayton. He's a good player, but I'd bet on Dellandrea becoming as good or a better two-way NHL center than Hayton.

Yes and being top line and lone wolf means a boatload of minutes. Every bottom feeder has a somebody produce something.

Hounds rolled 4. Frost had the prime minutes and prime linemates.

I think Hayton's stats are excellent when thise factors are weighed in (and I'm sure they are) along with playing both end responsibly.

Great difference? No, wouldn't say that, but there's a defined and definite difference.
 
Yes and being top line and lone wolf means a boatload of minutes. Every bottom feeder has a somebody produce something.

Hounds rolled 4. Frost had the prime minutes and prime linemates.

I think Hayton's stats are excellent when thise factors are weighed in (and I'm sure they are) along with playing both end responsibly.

Great difference? No, wouldn't say that, but there's a defined and definite difference.
Hayton still had way more secondary points than Dellandrea, Ty also recorded 1.6 more shots per game and he also took about 600 more faceoffs and got positive % while Hayton was -.
 
Hayton still had way more secondary points than Dellandrea, Ty also recorded 1.6 more shots per game and he also took about 600 more faceoffs and got positive % while Hayton was -.

Minutes. Hayton was No. 2 centre on his team.

I know Hayton can shine in the playoffs and in physical games.

We don't know if Dellandrea can.

Gimme guys who can play in the biggest games and play well.
 
Minutes. Hayton was No. 2 centre on his team.

I know Hayton can shine in the playoffs and in physical games.

We don't know if Dellandrea can.

Gimme guys who can pmay in the biggest games and play well.
Thats some mental gymnastics, no offense. It seems like youre grasping at the smallest straws available here. By that definition, a guy like Carlson should be much better than Karlsson or Hedman? Weird. The facts are, Haytons production wasnt great. He played with great players, and he had plenty of playing time, including stints on the first line at wing and playing 1st line when Frost was at the WJC.
 
Does it matter the team's best D-man was at the WJC, too?

Speaking of nit-picking.

Fact is Dellandrea was an after thought until one game happened.

Fact.
 
Yes and being top line and lone wolf means a boatload of minutes. Every bottom feeder has a somebody produce something.

Hounds rolled 4. Frost had the prime minutes and prime linemates.

I think Hayton's stats are excellent when thise factors are weighed in (and I'm sure they are) along with playing both end responsibly.

Great difference? No, wouldn't say that, but there's a defined and definite difference.

I agree Hounds rolled 4 lines, but there isn't that big of a difference between them. We'll be disagreeing on that. I also think Dellandrea has the better offensive upside, especially when it comes to playmaking. I find Hayton is slow in his decision-making or just doesn't see plays when it comes to using his teammates.

Frost may be in the NHL next year, so we'll see how Hayton does in his draft+1. He should get the prime minutes then.

Dellandrea is top 15 for me, while Hayton is top 20, but I know other draft lists have them reversed. I don't.

No one knows how this draft is going to play-out though. It's all over the place.

Morozov and O'Brien I haven't seen a lot of. O'Brien plays high school hockey so it's really tough to get a read on him. What I've seen is he's a real waterbug on the ice & ALWAYS seems to have the damn puck. He's popular on here, but I have my doubts about him.

Wise is also in the mix. I know some have him top 20 too. I think he's a dark horse to go 20-25, like Thomas did last year.

I can see a run on centers where Hayton, Kupari, Lundestrom, Dellandrea & Wise all go together or within a few spots of each other.

Veleno and McLeod you either love or hate. No in between with those 2.
 
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Does it matter the team's best D-man was at the WJC, too?

Speaking of nit-picking.
Does it matter he finished 6th in scoring on his team? 72 behind Frost, 25 behind Katchouk? He wouldve finished 8th if Timmins and Raddysh played the whole season.

He had great POs? DOES IT MATTER HE FINISHED 6TH THERE TOO? :laugh: Jeez.
 
I wonder if Dellandrea is talked about half as much without the Prospects Game.

Seriously hypnotized some people.

I was actually expecting more there. I liked his game with the Flints, but really enjoyed watching him at the U18s.

He's still behind Hayton for me, like Thomas, there were a few games where he just didn't do anything. I'm not convinced the skillset is that far ahead though. Dellandreas fast, he has quick and deceptive hands and a killer instinct in front of the net.

And for a guy with a "better" shot, Hayton should have scored more. I was expecting more when he was put on Frosts wing. A lot more.

In any case, I'm putting Hayton mid 1st, because he's still pretty complete offensively, has great hands, compete and I love how he creates space to get to the slot. By all accounts, he already has a pro work ethic too.
 
Nice odds today on Mise O jeu. Some pretty good gambles in there, Boqvist vs Wahl-e at soemthing like 3.50 and Bergy trading away a 2nd at 6.

Can't play them. :mad: The earlier props looked very good and now they're gone.

Qvist vs Wahlstrom is a tough call, IMO.
 
Can't play them. :mad: The earlier props looked very good and now they're gone.

Qvist vs Wahlstrom is a tough call, IMO.
Its a tough call for sure, 50/50 I'm sure, but the odds are great on Qvist side.
Adam Boqvist or Wahle for the Habs are at 40.00 Right now, thats huge pay out.

Zadina over Tkachuk at 1.85

Total numbers of Q players drafted in the first round more than 4.5 = 3.45 Odds, 1.12 for less.

Already put in 40 bucks on that one.
 
So Bobby Mac has Tkachuk 3rd. Kotka 5th, so not a reach at all at 3.

Scouts really love Tkachuk.

If we had a true top line and more offensive punch in place, adding Tkachuk would be fine.

Instead, as we speak, we have a talent-starved mish-mash screaming for a stabilizing centrepiece.

I pray we leave the draft thinking we got it, or else MB might go on a lame spending spree, or make more trades.

Anyone have any hope the Total Tank'n' Rebuild can actually happen under Bergy?
 
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