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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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WeThreeKings said:
He's small. He takes chances offensively. He isn't strong defensively. His coach didn't trust him at the WJC and he didn't participate in combine testing because he didn't want to.
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And yet was selected to play with the big boys.....:huh:
 
JeffreyLFC said:
Maybe but Arizona could also be interested to leap frog Ottawa for their prime target.

It is highly speculative on my part but it's not a given Ottawa select Zadina if available they could definately target a defenseman to replace eventually Karlsson.
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I think that discussion happened, but had they agreed on a price the switch of picks would have been included in the Galchenyuk/Domi deal. Unless there is a substantial return, no point risking losing your the guy you truly covet.

If they truly covet Kot at #3, I agree the odds of trading down have shrunk as he has risen in the rankings. Imagine you deal down, then OTT trades down as well and let's someone leapfrog the Habs and pick Kotkaniemi.

I'm more hoping they manage to get another 1st rounder somehow, #15 in the deal to FLA for Max perhaps. Whatever the case I hope they move Pacioretty before or at the draft, will have a much better idea what the future holds once that deal is done.
 
Not sure where to put this, but I spent a few minutes looking into William Karlsson's analytics. There's nothing in his NHL numbers that could have predicted his 43 goal season this year. All of his previous season's numbers and underlying analytics were average/below average. Anything that above average, were you to base a prediction of 40+ goals on it, would end up looking very silly. The only thing that I could find that was exceptional about him was what he did before he came to the NHL.

1.) 7th all time U18 point production in SuperElit (4th is Berggren btw)
2.) 2nd all time U19 point production in Allsvenskan
3.) Led his SHL team in scoring as a 21 year old (37 points, same year Arvidsson had 40)

Interestingly enough, point number 2 includes Alexander Wennberg. Now, this is not to say that every player that puts up historically good numbers within their age cohort in a pro-league will go on to be a 40 goal scorer. But the William Karlsson story is, IMO, a case of an offensively talented player getting to play big minutes with other offensively talented players, and nothing more.

Why he never got the chance to Columbus to strut his stuff I'll never know. But the reason why they had no idea what they had is pretty clear: they buried him, played him with 20-30 pt players with 16 minutes total PP time for the entire season.
 
WeThreeKings said:
We are talking about the Habs. I like Hughes, he's early Subban without the shot and defensive proficiency and the agitation. But there's no way the Habs like him.
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I really don't think he is that bad defensively. It just looks ridiculous when he is always causing odd man rushes against or needs someone else to cover for him. Whenever he is in position, he makes the right defensive play more often than not. At least from my viewings. But yes, there is not way the Habs take him.
 
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Don't think he drops that far down but I wouldn't be surprised he does slip out of the top 5-6.
 
WeThreeKings said:
We are talking about the Habs. I like Hughes, he's early Subban without the shot and defensive proficiency and the agitation. But there's no way the Habs like him.
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If they don't want another winger, he should be the pick. Fills a need on defence and is way more talented than Kotko.
 
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Drew4u said:
If they don't want another winger, he should be the pick. Fills a need on defence and is way more talented than Kotko.
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They could just draft Dobson who will likely be their style of pick and an all around better defenseman who gives a bit on offense but holds his own and gains a lot on the other aspects of the game.
 
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ToLegitToQuit said:
A good situation for the Habs is if the Islanders lock up Tavares pre-draft and we are able to trade Patch for one of their picks.

Kotkaniemi and Boqvist would be a nice haul to start the draft.
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Absolutely. People keep saying that the Habs need to get a center for Patches. But if they take a center at 3 and trade Pacioretty for that much needed elite PMD, it's the same thing. I doubt the Isles do that though. I can see them trading a 1st, but for a dman.
 
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