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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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MarkovsKnee said:
Here I was complaining about Smurfville 2.0 earlier & I'd take Berggren over Alex Alex, but only because I don't think Alex is going to have much of an offensive game at the NHL level otherwise I like him a lot too.

Of course, if others thought Alex squared could produce offensively at the NHL level he'd be ranked a lot higher.

Alex has top 4 defensive D potential. Tough to play against etc., etc. But Berggren plays like Gallagher (not a perimeter player, willingness to go to the net) except with vision, passing skills & terrific puck control skills. Fantastic speed too. He has top 6 upside for sure. He could wind up as an Arvidsson type (who was taken in the 4th round).

Go with the guy with the higher upside & who can be an offensive contributor. Defensive D are a lot easier to draft then scoring forwards, which is why D fall & scoring forwards get taken early in most drafts.

Also, no way either is there at 35. I'd be shocked. Take the one that is there.
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I really think AlexAlex has some really good tools offensively. His shot alone will make him a contributor.
 
Also his oft times partner, Dawson Barteaux, who WTK mentioned from the black book is not bad. He can't hang with Alexeyev defensively but he can run a PP and has a plus shot. Would be worth a look if we had a 6th/7th.
 
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Mrb1p said:
I really think AlexAlex has some really good tools offensively. His shot alone will make him a contributor.
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He's a late birthday too. He's 19 November something, so he's got one more year of junior.

Berggren is still 17. I want forwards with high upside, speed & skill, which he has.

I think it's all moot anyway. Both should go 1st round. No way Alex gets by Buffalo or Detroit at 32 & 33 if he's still there 2nd day.

Depending how many teams towards the end of the 1st draft D, maybe Berggren is there at 35.

Who would you pick? And, why these 2 players?
 
I'm just trying to figure out why Berggren didn't get invited for the combine. Really curious where he ends up on Bob's list.
 
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MarkovsKnee said:
He's a late birthday too. He's 19 November something, so he's got one more year of junior.

Berggren is still 17. I want forwards with high upside, speed & skill, which he has.

I think it's all moot anyway. Both should go 1st round. No way Alex gets by Buffalo or Detroit at 32 & 33 if he's still there 2nd day.

Depending how many teams towards the end of the 1st draft D, maybe Berggren is there at 35.

Who would you pick? And, why these 2 players?
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Theyre my two favorite players in the draft with KotK. I have both of them in my top 20 solidly. Just wondering who prefers who and why.
 
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G0bias said:
Liam Kirk was there no? He's not in their top 30. I thought teams had more say nowadays in who they wanted to see.
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Yup. Seems like he was an exception from this. Maybe teams wanted to hear from him first-hand what his plans are since he was playing in the EIHL. But that was the reason Berggren wasn't there at the combine. I read somewhere that a few scouts were surprised he wasn't there too.
 
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jvr32 said:
Yup. Seems like he was an exception from this. Maybe teams wanted to hear from him first-hand what his plans are since he was playing in the EIHL. But that was the reason Berggren wasn't there at the combine. I read somewhere that a few scouts were surprised he wasn't there too.
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Makes sense. Thanks.
 
Mrb1p said:
Theyre my two favorite players in the draft with KotK. I have both of them in my top 20 solidly. Just wondering who prefers who and why.
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Realistically, I don't see us getting either. We'd need to get a second 1st rder in which case I'd draft Alex 1st.

For 2 reasons: Sutter has come out strongly on how much he loves the kid. That kind of reference goes a long way in the NHL. And, he plays a NA style game, has good balance in his game & has good mobility period (and not just for his size).

He's a really "low risk" pick.

Because of all that, he's more likely to be drafted early rather than later. Someone like McIsaac may fall, but I don't see Alex falling past #32 & may go much earlier, whereas Berggren as a smaller European could slip to 35.

So we'd need another 1st to claim Alex then hope Berggren is still there at 35.

If Alex is there at 35, I fully expect Montreal to take him unless you believe the "hating Russians" thing.

I personally would take Berggren because I think he has higher upside, but he also isn't "low risk" either.

But, if we're talking Montreal, they definitely take Alex & I wouldn't hate it.
 
Ethan Wiles said:
Thats a tough one but in my opinion it depends on who we take at 3. If we take a D at 3 then I'd prob take Berggren but if we take Zad or Kotka then I'd prob take AlexAlex.
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Both would represent big fallers on my list at 35. I may be inclined to take AlexAlex at 35 and gamble of Berggren being there at 38. Would be so pissed if he were picked 37th, though.
 
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Brady Tkachuk will be drafted as a center.

Btw, who knows, maybe Brady will have same numbers as his father and become a 500 goals scorer. I'd take him 3rd overall.
 
jayhabsvgk said:
If Patch is traded for 10th pick and Kotka is selected 3rd, who would you take ?

Personally hoping for a LD
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Ty Smith would be the LD then & that's a great pick. It would be tough to pass on Wahlstrom if he was there and he could be. Dobson could be there too & he's a RD or Boqvist also RD.
 
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