2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Fazkovsky]

imo on our team, there is a good winger missing of 30-30 potential and that might be zadina's ceiling no?

Unless we sign JVR that's a whole different story. I would trade PAC for a D

 

[Hannibal]

Kotkaniemi, Dobson or Tkachuk. That's who we will end up with.

 

[ZUKI]

The Canadiens’ interest in Kotkaniemi came into focus Saturday as 104 prospects went though a battery of tests at the NHL Combine in Buffalo. He revealed that the Canadiens were one of three teams which took him out for a steak dinner in the past week. Detroit and Chicago were the others.

They took him out for steaks. Tipped their hand right there.

Hope for him he's not a vegan or that he doesn't like steak

 

[KFlint]

After watching Zadina jumping at the combine, I do believe my grandmother as more power than him. It was embarrassing.

I’m more and more convinced we don’t pick him. Kotkaniemi seems likely, would be fine with that!

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Has anyone watched Timmins interview ? My phone doesn't load the habs stuff for some reason. Anything other than his cryptic nonsense ?

I don't mean that in a negative way, just that he says a lot that equates to nothing

 

[Draft]

I would put his skill level higher than Dobson's, I'm just completely okay with a team taking who they think is best at 3 even if he isn't ranked there on other rankings. That's all my point has ever been.

That's a fair point and I think most teams do.

 

[Draft]

Has anyone watched Timmins interview ? My phone doesn't load the habs stuff for some reason. Anything other than his cryptic nonsense ?

I don't mean that in a negative way, just that he says a lot that equates to nothing

Lots of focus on speed and skill instead of size - using the 2013 draft as an example of where it didn't work. Knows where the game is going.

Will definitely choose BPA because of the typical reasons.

Talked a lot about upside and the second round.

That's all I really took of value.

 

[WeThreeKings]

They are holding their own combines in Montreal and Sweden. Actually taking a look at European prospects that werent invited.

That's smart. It's about time they cared about Europe.

 

[Naslund]

After watching Zadina jumping at the combine, I do believe my grandmother as more power than him. It was embarrassing.

I’m more and more convinced we don’t pick him. Kotkaniemi seems likely, would be fine with that!

Not sure if Kotkaniemi should be our pick at 3, but I'm sure we should not pick Zadina.

 

[yianik]

I have posted about how miffed I was at the Habs wasting so many 1st round picks on guys who couldn't skate but were always going to improve, but didn't.

So I am someone who gets nervous about taking any body with skating issues, especially in this faster NHL.

Having said that, back when we were picking these skating challenged guys there was no sports science. Those guys would have been told to work on leg strength and just to, skate faster.

Now they have loads of experts to help.

But I still am nervous.

Now it doesn't seem to me at all that Kotkaniemi is a bad skater, just that it isn't a strength. I also see the kid has chicken legs and could bulk his legs up. I also understand ( because I didn't see him play last year ) that he has improved his skating quite a bit.

Can anybody comment on whether his skating has improved ?

 

[Habs76]

2018 NHL Combine results: Top 10 at each drill - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Habs76]

Can't say I was surprised to see the Junior A dmen dominate the combine. They always get underrated throughtout the year.

 

[schnapshot]

Not sure if Kotkaniemi should be our pick at 3, but I'm sure we should not pick Zadina.

Care to explain why?

After watching Zadina jumping at the combine, I do believe my grandmother as more power than him. It was embarrassing.

I’m more and more convinced we don’t pick him. Kotkaniemi seems likely, would be fine with that!

Yeah and Mittelstadt couldn’t do a pull-up last year, surely wouldn’t like to have him in my prospect pool.

It baffles me that people give importance to the combine.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

Care to explain why?

Yeah and Mittelstadt couldn’t do a pull-up last year, surely wouldn’t like to have him in my prospect pool.

It baffles me that people give importance to the combine.

Still interesting to see what Zadina could do if he was in better shape.

 

[KFlint]

Care to explain why?

Yeah and Mittelstadt couldn’t do a pull-up last year, surely wouldn’t like to have him in my prospect pool.

It baffles me that people give importance to the combine.

Still it tells a lot about his dedication to be an athlete imo. If he was a small guy I would care less. Can’t believe he is NHL ready being average to weak in almost all the tests.

 

[schnapshot]

Still it tells a lot about his dedication to be an athlete imo. If he was a small guy I would care less. Can’t believe he is NHL ready being average to weak in almost all the tests.

It doesn’t. Some simply have it better than others (aka Foudy) in athleticism.

I think what Zadina has done this year speaks more of him as an athlete than two days at the combine.

 

[jaffy27]

After watching Zadina jumping at the combine, I do believe my grandmother as more power than him. It was embarrassing.

I’m more and more convinced we don’t pick him. Kotkaniemi seems likely, would be fine with that!

Have you seen him on the ice.....goals goals goals goals x 11

 

[The Great Weal]

Timmins is a funny dude

 

[Habs Icing]

2018 NHL Combine results: Top 10 at each drill - Sportsnet.ca

Man, Foudy's name stood out for me. Not surprising at the U18 the announcers kept mentioning he was a track star.

 

[Mrb1p]

I have posted about how miffed I was at the Habs wasting so many 1st round picks on guys who couldn't skate but were always going to improve, but didn't.

So I am someone who gets nervous about taking any body with skating issues, especially in this faster NHL.

Having said that, back when we were picking these skating challenged guys there was no sports science. Those guys would have been told to work on leg strength and just to, skate faster.

Now they have loads of experts to help.

But I still am nervous.

Now it doesn't seem to me at all that Kotkaniemi is a bad skater, just that it isn't a strength. I also see the kid has chicken legs and could bulk his legs up. I also understand ( because I didn't see him play last year ) that he has improved his skating quite a bit.

Can anybody comment on whether his skating has improved ?

He improved on a weekly basis, pretty much.

 

[Mrb1p]

Theres a few tests that are relevant, agility drill, vo2 max, vertical jump, wingspan, wingate...
The rest, meh.

I also dont know why they dont test he 40 yard dash, its pretty much the single most important athletic barometer.

 

[TT1]

vo2 max is pretty important

 

[Habs76]

Man, Foudy's name stood out for me. Not surprising at the U18 the announcers kept mentioning he was a track star.

The names I noticed often:
Liam Foudy
Jack Gorniak
Xavier Bouchard (kinda worrisome, just one less excuse for his shitty year)
Gabriel Fortier
Jonathan Tychonick
Martin Fehervary
Oliver Wahlstrom
Jakub Lauko
Cameron Hillis

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Interesting, how does it work exactly?

I've done several different models, typically about 100 different questions that when you answer them you're thinking how can someone learn anything about you from them but when they get you your profile it's freaky how close they come without ever meeting you beforehand. Shows your strengths and weaknesses, how you like to be approached/ managed, how you approach/manage others. Some are just personality based where they just group you into your personality type, others are competency under pressure where you have strict timing to answer puzzles.

Its really good when you can get the results for your entire team and you can see why you get along with some people really well while butt heads with others, who's motivated by a pat on the back and who needs a kick in the arse, who's just going to coast no matter what you do and who's going to be a tyrant and succeed no matter who they step on/over. I did one once where they just split people off into groups regardless of personality and we had to solve a problem, huge fights at every table. They then revealed our personality type and paired us up based on that, deathly quiet after that at most tables cause everyone was in agreement, every table ended up with a different answer but full agreement at every table their answer was the right one, that's why you need a mix of all types to be successful but you have to find a way to do without killing each other.

Hopefully it follows through with how these players are developed/coached as yelling at 20 players the same way will not get the intended result for a good portion of them.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

I've done several different models, typically about 100 different questions that when you answer them you're thinking how can someone learn anything about you from them but when they get you your profile it's freaky how close they come without ever meeting you beforehand. Shows your strengths and weaknesses, how you like to be approached/ managed, how you approach/manage others. Some are just personality based where they just group you into your personality type, others are competency under pressure where you have strict timing to answer puzzles.

Its really good when you can get the results for your entire team and you can see why you get along with some people really well while butt heads with others, who's motivated by a pat on the back and who needs a kick in the arse, who's just going to coast no matter what you do and who's going to be a tyrant and succeed no matter who they step on/over. I did one once where they just split people off into groups regardless of personality and we had to solve a problem, huge fights at every table. They then revealed our personality type and paired us up based on that, deathly quiet after that at most tables cause everyone was in agreement, every table ended up with a different answer but full agreement at every table their answer was the right one, that's why you need a mix of all types to be successful but you have to find a way to do without killing each other.

Hopefully it follows through with how these players are developed/coached as yelling at 20 players the same way will not get the intended result for a good portion of them.

Thanks for the response, pretty neat stuff. Can't you adapt your personality or have it change over time (with maturity for example)?