I've got it, everyone! Why don't we take the longest stretch of games in which he sucked, and create a narrative to exclude them!
2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)
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I've got it, everyone! Why don't we take the longest stretch of games in which he sucked, and create a narrative to exclude them!
Some people think he is worth a 3rd in a trade. He could go late 2nd for a team that wants a more mature player.
Montreal Canadiens trade target: Adam Mascherin
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There's no complete list just names that pop up here and there. There's a thread in the prospect forum.
If you're really determined you might find more names on Twitter. If you do, post them here.
Physical tests are today.
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Boqvist is #3 on my list. But in contention are Dobson, Wahlstrom and Kotkaniemi.
If you want a winger, Wahlstrom is my best guy and I don't see where Tkachuk or Zadina truly out class him in any one area while being more rounded offensively, he's going to need some good coaching for the finer points of the game vis a vis body positioning on the forecheck but that's nothing major.
If you want a defenseman, well Boqvist is the new breed defenseman but I will accept Dobson since he projects easier but upside is lower.
Then if you truly believe Kotkaniemi is on a huge upswing trajectory and he's a C, then take him.
Unless Svech is on the board, he's the clear pick.
Zadina will be OKAY, it won't be Tkachuk so that's a plus. I'm a never-Tkachuker at three, pretty much everything else is viable to me.
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That's pretty much how I have it as well.
Only difference is I have Smith and Dobson in my acceptance for D.
Smith at 3 is a massive jump but
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I'm high on Boqvist too. But Dobson for me has cemented as the defenceman for us. Yes, because of more exposure. Nonetheless, I like Boqvist attributes and skillset. But, I remember having a discussion here on these boards about who's the best player of 2012. Is it Galchenyuk or Forsberg?
Then one poster replied with Andrei Vasilesvky. He explatined that of all these players, only Vasilevsky has the potential to be amongst the best at his position, not only in his draft class, but the NHL. And he was right.
I don't think Zadina, Tkachuk or Wahlstrom being able to be the top 5-10 wingers of the league. Not when you have Ovechkin, Laine, Kane, Benn, Kucherov, Hall, Wheeler, Marchand, Voracek, Gaudreau, Pastrnak, Tarasenko. Those are extremely dominant wingers in our league.
With that being said, I can see Dobson, once brought up correctly, can become a top 10 defenceman in the league. Surpassing guys like Seth Jones, Dougie Hamilton, Jake Gardiner, OEL, Muzzin, etc. Burns, Karlsson, Dougthy, PK, Josi, Klingberg, Hedman, Pietrangelo for me are the elite.
I'd take Dobson over Boqvist. Just because I think it's gonna be harder for him to bulk up and be physically prepared for the NHL. Karlsson was as small as Boqvist, but post draft, grew up so much and became so solid too.
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Don't know if this was posted: OHL Prospects: My Final Top 50 OHL Players for the 2018 NHL Entry Draft - Part 4: 10-1
Interesting insights on several players regularly brought up in this thread, namely:
4. Ty Dellandrea - Forward - Flint Firebirds
Speaking of well rounded centers, that brings us to Dellandrea, one of the most underrated players in this year's draft. 2018 just isn't a strong year down the middle and Dellandrea presents a great draft option for team's looking to pick up a potential top 9 center. The Flint Firebirds just weren't very good this year and I think that's why Dellandrea seems to be flying under the radar for a bit, but he was the straw that stirred their drink and he was terrific at all other major events (Hlinka, TPG, U18's). Like Hayton, Dellandrea is the type of player who impacts the game on so many different levels. He's physical and is aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck, always hungry for the puck. He uses that physicality to be a very effective defensive player. He's a good skater and has some size, which helps him be a very solid north/south play creator. But he also possesses the hands and vision to play east/west. In particular, I like how he controls the boards and shows patience and poise in the offensive end. If we're talking about his performance at the U18's, I felt like he was Canada's best and most consistent forward. He was able to show his effectiveness without the puck as it seemed like he forced a couple turnovers in the defensive zone every game. I think Dellandrea has a chance to have a career similar to a guy like Mike Fisher and if you can get that in the later part of the first round, you're doing very well at the draft.
Interesting insights on several players regularly brought up in this thread, namely:
4. Ty Dellandrea - Forward - Flint Firebirds
Speaking of well rounded centers, that brings us to Dellandrea, one of the most underrated players in this year's draft. 2018 just isn't a strong year down the middle and Dellandrea presents a great draft option for team's looking to pick up a potential top 9 center. The Flint Firebirds just weren't very good this year and I think that's why Dellandrea seems to be flying under the radar for a bit, but he was the straw that stirred their drink and he was terrific at all other major events (Hlinka, TPG, U18's). Like Hayton, Dellandrea is the type of player who impacts the game on so many different levels. He's physical and is aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck, always hungry for the puck. He uses that physicality to be a very effective defensive player. He's a good skater and has some size, which helps him be a very solid north/south play creator. But he also possesses the hands and vision to play east/west. In particular, I like how he controls the boards and shows patience and poise in the offensive end. If we're talking about his performance at the U18's, I felt like he was Canada's best and most consistent forward. He was able to show his effectiveness without the puck as it seemed like he forced a couple turnovers in the defensive zone every game. I think Dellandrea has a chance to have a career similar to a guy like Mike Fisher and if you can get that in the later part of the first round, you're doing very well at the draft.
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Zadina has significantly better puck protection skills - better defensive awareness and commitment to a lesser degree. Wahlstrom is a bit better playmaker and skater when he puts it all together. That's what I've seen anyway. I don't think it puts Zadina WAY further ahead, but his ability to protect the puck and maintain pressure in the offensive zone - despite the fact he's primarily a shooter - makes the difference for me. I don't think I'd be disappointed by either.
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I just wish Bouchard was a better skater. He's brilliant offensively and really controls the game when he's on the ice.
Worst case, if we miss out on Kotkaniemi with a trade, we got the other two you mentioned and perhaps Smith or Bouchard depending on how the top-10 pans out.
Not like we need wingers, but there are still some high-potential wingers also left in the 1st round.
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Bergevin said we’d put emphasis on speed for our futures, doubt we’d draft a player with skating issues.
However, I’d be fine about it with our two later seconds.
Meh. Kotkaniemi will be gone unless we get another top 8-10 pick, I'd rather just trade for a 2019 first instead.
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Boqvist being 5-11.5 is pretty encouraging.
He's only 165 but that can always change.
Hallander is now 6'2"
He's only 165 but that can always change.
Hallander is now 6'2"
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