2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)
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Only 23 more days left of Tkachuk fear mongering...
Then it's free agency...another dozen days to convince everyone we're going to sign Leo Komarov to a 7yr deal.
Mike Mike Caron
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LastWordArmy
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The second ranked goalie on our draft board.
Olivier Rodrigue Scouting Report: 2018 NHL Draft #64 - Last Word on Hockey
Olivier Rodrigue Scouting Report: 2018 NHL Draft #64 - Last Word on Hockey
Granted, people generally want a flawless player in the top-3, hence, Kotkaniemi carries some risk but in my opinion, I think the issues with Kotkaniemi's skating are overstated like Hughes and his shot.
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The best example of this IMHO was the Quebec Nordique's drafting Eric Lindros #1, Lindros & family balked at playing for Quebec. The efforts to trade Lindros became an NHL bidding war, eventually won by Philadelphia a year later, for a package that included Mike Ricci & Peter Forsberg amongst others. NYR's were up in arms feeling that Quebec had made the deal with them. Big time PR for the NHL, Lindros was considered a franchise type of center, which he was despite ever winning the SCC. Imagine Quebec with Lindros & Sakic & Roy playing in Quebec City, Lindros could have saved that franchise back then.
The 2018 Entry Draft biggest story IMHO is teams actually deciding which is the order of BPA from 2-5. Hard to differentiate the value of those players, truly evaluating the BPA eventually will be close. Boqvist, Svechnikov, Zadina & Hughes can all be great, possibly Kotkaneimi also. When considering the worth of many HOFers, picked outside of the Top Ten. Players like Larry Robinson, Bobby Clarke, Mike Bossy & Bryan Trottier come to mind, it's not an exact science is an understatement. Zadina bears a resemblance to Guy Lafleur.(Minus the blazing speed, Lafleur stood out as did the "Rocket" & the "Roadrunner"[Name given Yvan Cournoyer, whom ran the roads leading to the Forum, besides having blurring speed]). Hopefully the Habs can draft a very good blend of talent with speed given their many high 1st & 2nd round picks in 2018.
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schnapshot
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Sometimes it’s not all on Timmins either. I’m sure he didn’t single-handedly pick guys like Crisp, Pezzeta and Staum. He gets advice from other scouts too.
The recent drafts (2016 and 2017) have been pretty good so far. Loving the Sergachev (sigh), Bitten, Mete, Poehling, Brook and Fleury picks. He didn’t have many picks in 2015 so tough to judge.
The recent drafts (2016 and 2017) have been pretty good so far. Loving the Sergachev (sigh), Bitten, Mete, Poehling, Brook and Fleury picks. He didn’t have many picks in 2015 so tough to judge.
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If Kotkaniemi wasnt a center, he wouldnt have the upside of a 1C, so no, nobody would care. McDavid would probably not be deemed a generational player either, and nobody would care about Pettersson. Fact is, Centers are worth more than wingers, theres no way around it.
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Mrb1p
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Every draft has been nice since 2012, has been nice. The biggest fail has been McCarron, DLR and Fucale, aside from that theres great pick all over the board.
Then, when we draft Zadina, we will here about all the warts in his game, how slow he is and how he’s going to bust
My guess is 3 of the 4 second round draft picks will be ridiculed.
Zadina will get the initial Poehling treatment....mark my words!!
Still, Lehkonen and DLR are 1 and 3 in goal scoring in that second round, so it certainly was not a fail.
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Then, when we draft Zadina, we will here about all the warts in his game, how slow he is and how he’s going to bust
My guess is 3 of the 4 second round draft picks will be ridiculed.
Zadina will get the initial Poehling treatment....mark my words!!
I'm more interested in what happens with those second round picks than our first rounder. We're going to get a great player regardless, with that first round pick.
I'd like to see one of those 2nd round picks moved for a 2019 pick. Or, if a really good player falls, trade one or two of the late second rounders to make a jump to the last tier of the first round.
Habs Halifax
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McCarron was a bad pick cause he should of been taken in the 2nd round. You don't target prospects that have size, but limited skill and skating in the 1st round. That's why Tinordi was another bad 1st round pick.
Leblanc was a good pick. He just extremely dissapointed and never developed past the point of who he was when he was drafted. I don't even think he is playing hockey anymore
Collberg was a good 2nd round pick. Worth the throw of a dart cause he had skill. Turned out to be disappointing. Ikonen might be another similar pick.
Fucale was arguably the BPA when we drafted him. Another dissapointment but I wonder where he would be today if he played on a better AHL team. His performance in the Spengler Cup was something to take note of.
I really agree with your last statement......if there's a player that they are really high on, and he's falling, they have the assets to make moves and get their guy.
You're right, whoever they get at 3 will be a very good player, like very good (Zadina/Wahlstrom/Boqvist), but those second round picks are what can set this franchise 3 years forward in their quest for aquiring talent. The talent pool can benefit from a major injection of skilled players, this is the year to do it.
Habs Halifax
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I like him a lot! Hope he is around with our last 2nd or early 3rd. I know we are stocked with goalie prospects but Primeau and Rodrigue are the only ones projected to replace Price when he is near the end of the 8 year deal.
There are quite a few teams with no 1st and/or 2nd round picks...so I agree there
Heard him mention his name twice in 7yrs.......there was no crying, sobbing, sniffling, ranting or whining........
Not sure how anyone can say that considering Trevor Timmins himself basically admitting he wasn't who he wanted.
Do we really need another goalie though?? I'm just not sold on this idea......with, Price, Lindgren, McNiven, Hawkey and Primeau, I believe we are set.
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Plenty of good goalies to be had for free (Lindgren, McNiven) or with a late pick (Primeau). Wouldn't waste any picks on a goalie this year, no matter how good.
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Never hurts but I wouldn't with our first 5 picks. 1 of the 4ths, sure.
He did.
Habs Halifax
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Totally understand but I like Rodrigue a lot. Lets say he turns into a Hart type prospect. That would be wicket trade bait to acquire another asset. Towards the end of the 2nd and early 3rd, I think he would be considered BPA. It comes down to what other options we have at that point.
Not sure of the probability of Lindgren, McNiven, Hawkey being around when Price is in year 6, 7, 8 or his contract. This is a very long term pick. The legit Price replacement would be Primeau and Ridrigue. Lindgren, McNiven, Hawkey are small bridges but maybe one surprises by a lot. Hard to predict
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Habs Halifax
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Does that mean he was a bad pick based on what kind of player Leblanc was pre-draft? All picks Timmins didn't want are bad picks? Is that what your trying to imply? The point was Leblanc was a center and he had good skills and skating. He just never developed and nobody can predict this.
But hey, Maybe Timmins knew something we didn't
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