2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

[Mrb1p]

Why not? I have Boqvist just behind them but I still think he's got the most upside out of anyone in 3-8.

Because Wahlstrom is just a run of the mill top 6er. He has a great shot and the rest of his abilities are overrated. I was really high on him early on and he reall failed to show me anything I really wanted from him in my extensive viewings. Hes not a player that is gonna drive a line, like not even close. Zadina has similar tools and a better motor, both project to be really similar. The only thing Wahlstrom has over Zadina is skating and age, and he rarely uses his skating to beat someone or get to pucks. Hes THE frustating player of this draft. Huge tool box, not much else.

 

[Goldenhands]

[QUOTE = "WeThreeKings, poste: 146426943, membre: 42509"] Il est un excellent tireur d'élite, mais j'ai Wahlstrom plus élevé en raison d'avoir plus dans son répertoire en ce qui concerne les contributions offensives. Si je choisis un ailier buteur à 3, c'est ce que je prends. [/ QUOTE] I like Wahlstrom alot but he is more like Pacioretty as a sniper since he is a high volume shooter while Zadina wont waste as many shots to score his goals.. Personally Ive had Zadina Wahlstrom and Dobson basically all tied at third for a good while and Im still unsure who I would pick between them at 3...

 

[Habs76]

[QUOTE = "WeThreeKings, poste: 146426943, membre: 42509"] Il est un excellent tireur d'élite, mais j'ai Wahlstrom plus élevé en raison d'avoir plus dans son répertoire en ce qui concerne les contributions offensives. Si je choisis un ailier buteur à 3, c'est ce que je prends. [/ QUOTE] I like Wahlstrom alot but he is more like Pacioretty as a sniper since he is a high volume shooter while Zadina wont waste as many shots to score his goals.. Personally Ive had Zadina Wahlstrom and Dobson basically all tied at third for a good while and Im still unsure who I would pick between them at 3...

Zadina/Wahlstrom/Dobson @ 3/4/5? I can relate bro, I've switched those three around a million times.

 

[Habs76]

Because Wahlstrom is just a run of the mill top 6er. He has a great shot and the rest of his abilities are overrated. I was really high on him early on and he reall failed to show me anything I really wanted from him in my extensive viewings. Hes not a player that is gonna drive a line, like not even close. Zadina has similar tools and a better motor, both project to be really similar. The only thing Wahlstrom has over Zadina is skating and age, and he rarely uses his skating to beat someone or get to pucks. Hes THE frustating player of this draft. Huge tool box, not much else.

I question Wahlstrom's work ethic tbh, he could be a way better player if he applied himself on the ice.

 

[tooji]

Because Wahlstrom is just a run of the mill top 6er. He has a great shot and the rest of his abilities are overrated. I was really high on him early on and he reall failed to show me anything I really wanted from him in my extensive viewings. Hes not a player that is gonna drive a line, like not even close. Zadina has similar tools and a better motor, both project to be really similar. The only thing Wahlstrom has over Zadina is skating and age, and he rarely uses his skating to beat someone or get to pucks. Hes THE frustating player of this draft. Huge tool box, not much else.

If the canadiens pick Wahlstrom all we will hear for the next few years is that he’s a floater who can snipe the puck. Zadina at least has more of a competitive edge to him.

 

[417]

On a pure value standpoint, it'd be a smart move.
But seeing as Kotkaniemi's on the Wings' radar I'd trade down no further than 6th and even then I'd be concerned about Ottawa taking him.

Not sure I agree that value wise it makes sense...

#27 is pretty deep in the first round and considering the Habs have 4 2nd round pick, the first of which is 8 or 9 picks after #27...

It's not enough for me personally.

 

[Mrb1p]

I question Wahlstrom's work ethic tbh, he could be a way better player if he applied himself on the ice.

To be honest, its not even his work ethic, sure youd like to see him go all out use his skating, strength and size but yeah, hes never gonna do that, its his playing style to me that puts him behind Zadina.

 

[Habs76]

To be honest, its not even his work ethic, sure youd like to see him go all out use his skating, strength and size but yeah, hes never gonna do that, its his playing style to me that puts him behind Zadina.

His playstyle is lazy, honestly. He'd be more effective if he skated harder, but he doesn't do that.

 

[G0bias]

Because Wahlstrom is just a run of the mill top 6er. He has a great shot and the rest of his abilities are overrated. I was really high on him early on and he reall failed to show me anything I really wanted from him in my extensive viewings. Hes not a player that is gonna drive a line, like not even close. Zadina has similar tools and a better motor, both project to be really similar. The only thing Wahlstrom has over Zadina is skating and age, and he rarely uses his skating to beat someone or get to pucks. Hes THE frustating player of this draft. Huge tool box, not much else.

The Wahlstrom pre-Hughes- when he had a rotating cast of players but mostly Gruden as his center- along with Farabee, absolutely drove his line so I don't have quite the same concerns there. He can hurt you in more ways than Zadina but still you can't teach that type of shooting ability, which is probably the most lethal in the draft along with Svechnikov's.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

His playstyle is lazy, honestly. He'd be more effective if he skated harder, but he doesn't do that.

He can change the outcome of a game with one shift though, he really can take charge if he wants to, that's where I like his potential, yeah those players can be frustrating (still just a kid though), but successful teams needs a player or 2 like them, others have to work for them, but you know at some point they'll just take the game in their hands.

A bit like Kovalev.

Damn there's wayyy too many interesting choices at 3...

 

[417]

If the canadiens pick Wahlstrom all we will hear for the next few years is that he’s a floater who can snipe the puck. Zadina at least has more of a competitive edge to him.

I'm actually hoping for Wahlstrom at #3..maybe a tad early, but if we can't get a center...I want the next biggest need up front, a right handed sniper with some size, change the look up a bit

Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen, Hudon, Scherbak...all somewhat similar in profile.

 

[Habs76]

He can change the outcome of a game with one shift though, he really can take charge if he wants to, that's where I like his potential, yeah those players can be frustrating (still just a kid though), but successful teams needs a player or 2 like them, others have to work for them, but you know at some point they'll just take the game in their hands.

A bit like Kovalev.

Damn there's wayyy too many interesting choices at 3...

Doesn't mean I wouldn't rather Dobson, who can control a game for 25 minutes.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Doesn't mean I wouldn't rather Dobson, who can control a game for 25 minutes.

Dobson is another very interesting one...

 

[Habs76]

Dobson is another very interesting one...

Damn right

 

[The Great Weal]

Dobson, Hughes and Boqvist all have #1 dman upside. I think Dobson has a higher floor than the other 2 though. Dobson makes a lot of sense.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Here's McCagg after the Bergevin interview.

 

[Gainesvillain]

I love American prospects to death....but people here are wildly overrating Wahlstrom. He's more "complimentary" than Tkachuk (who I don't want at 3 either). Really - he's got all the attributes people here hate in Pacioretty - lazy, soft perimiter player. Yes he has a shot and can skate. But he doesn't have half of Zadina's determination, and I still see Zadina's shot as superior to Wahstrom's.

 

[ZUKI]

I'll never understand the desire to take a complimentary winger over:

A guy who can break the game wide open with one touch of the puck (Wahlstrom)
An unpressurable defenseman, with an unbelievable shot, and puck movement skills who plays within a pro structure despite offensively talent (Boqvist)
A potential two-way C who's very young for the draft and shown progression throughout the year (Kotkaniemi)
or a two-way blue-liner who can rush the puck, play 1st PP and 1st PK (Dobson)

I guess the ghosts of the Bruins near a decade ago still haunt people and they don't understand where the game has gone. Even the Bruins aren't the Bruins anymore. I can't imagine that anyone who wants Brady Tkachuk saw anything outside of the WJCs, specifically his play-offs in the NCAA where a guy "you win with" may have been the worst player on the ice.

i really appreciate how you resume the situation

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Here's McCagg after the Bergevin interview.

Thought DLR was supposed to become our 1st center ?

 

[le_sean]

Edmonton needs a Tkachuk or Wahlstrom. They certainly have their uses, but Montreal doesn’t have the players to compliment them with.

 

[Goldenhands]

If the canadiens pick Wahlstrom all we will hear for the next few years is that he’s a floater who can snipe the puck. Zadina at least has more of a competitive edge to him.

yeah, Zadina's compete level, will to score goals and make the difference is off the chart, Wahlstrom has more tools while Zadina is a pure gamer... its pretty close...

 

[Mrb1p]

He can change the outcome of a game with one shift though, he really can take charge if he wants to, that's where I like his potential, yeah those players can be frustrating (still just a kid though), but successful teams needs a player or 2 like them, others have to work for them, but you know at some point they'll just take the game in their hands.

A bit like Kovalev.

Damn there's wayyy too many interesting choices at 3...

Id say almost every option at 3 are "game breakers" or have the ability to change a game in a shift, save for Tkachuk, Smith and Dobson. Zadina, Kotkaniemi, Wahlstrom, Boqvist are the type that need only one shot to change a game. Bouchard and Hughes can change the game with their ability to use their cunning to develop offense (But Bouchard also has a great point shot.)

I find one of the reason the Jets are such a threat is that they have many players that are gamebreakers like that, guys like Scheif, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Wheeler, Buff, even Myers have the individualisss abilities to just create a play without the support of anyone or with limited support. All those kids are like that, imo.

 

[Mrb1p]

Edmonton needs a Tkachuk or Wahlstrom. They certainly have their uses, but Montreal doesn’t have the players to compliment them with.

Edmonton also needs a Boqvist, a Hughes, a few Dobson, a Bouchard, A zadina and any goalie worth spending on

 

[Mrb1p]

I love American prospects to death....but people here are wildly overrating Wahlstrom. He's more "complimentary" than Tkachuk (who I don't want at 3 either). Really - he's got all the attributes people here hate in Pacioretty - lazy, soft perimiter player. Yes he has a shot and can skate. But he doesn't have half of Zadina's determination, and I still see Zadina's shot as superior to Wahstrom's.

Trying to separate shooting ability between Zadina and Wahlstrom is pointless, they both shoot the puck with elite efficiency. Where they score goals is the main point I'd look at when comparing them.

 

[David Suzuki]

Here's McCagg after the Bergevin interview.

Gotta hand it to him he's loyal