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2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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DramaticGloveSave said:
Both are going to be tremendous players IMO. Can't go wrong between those 2.
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Pacioretty
Galchenyuk
Drouin
Lehkonen
Scherbak
Hudon
We certainly can go wrong with Zadina. They don't give the Stanley Cup to the team with the most left-handed wingers. Zadina is a decent player, but Hughes is much better and he fill a big need on d for us on the left side. No brainer.
 
We will regret it forever to not draft Quinn Hugues.

The smartest and the fastest player of this draft.

I would draft Hugues second overall in a heartbeat.

He will give a hell of a run to dahlin in their carreer...wait and see.

He was so good against men at the world championship...

If we are not taken him third overall..the sens will take him
 
Quinn would definitely fill a need and he could end up being the best player to come from this draft... but you gotta believe..
 
Hughes isn’t my first choice at #3 but I’d take him before Zadina.

It’s not just about filling needs or how many points these players will score. Hughes I think can do what we are missing so desperately from our backend and that is the ability to create offence. Zadina may regularly score more than Hughes but I think the latter can do more for our team.
 
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WinterLion said:
Have you watched Kotkienemi play?
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Haven't seen a ton of him, and if we draft him I'll revisit him, but I've seen enough to have an idea of who he is.

To be clear, I like the prospect. But there's no way he should even sniff the top 5. I think he'll be a quality middle 6er, has upside to be more than that, but right now there's way too much projection required to say he'll reach it.

On another note, anyone else see Zadina in William Karlsson? Though Zadina is bigger and more skilled and has a better shot, but they look similar out there.
 
Naslund said:
Pacioretty
Galchenyuk
Drouin
Lehkonen
Scherbak
Hudon
We certainly can go wrong with Zadina. They don't give the Stanley Cup to the team with the most left-handed wingers. Zadina is a decent player, but Hughes is much better and he fill a big need on d for us on the left side. No brainer.
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Or.......draft Zadina and trade one or two of your LW's for the help on LD.

Draft BPA .....trade for needs
 
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jaffy27 said:
Or.......draft Zadina and trade one or two of your LW's for the help on LD.

Draft BPA .....trade for needs
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Easily filling your needs with trades! How has this work for our Habs (or any other team in the league)? Is Toronto finding good D through trade? Is Montreal close to acquiring that 1C or 2C with a good trade? Has trade finally fixed the goalie situation in Philly? You make it sounds like you can always find the right trading partner at the right time. This is rarely the case. When you decide (or are forced) to trade because of poor team management on your part, you will take a hit, meaning that the value you will get back will not be what you put in the trade. The upcoming Pacioretty trade this summer will show a clear example of that. In addition, left-handed wingers is the easiest position to fill on a NHL roster. Only a fool can think that a Zadina trade will return you equivalent talent playing first-pairing LHD or 1C/2C?. See what Yzerman did to Bergevin last summer. Not a single GM in the league would trade Sergachev for Drouin.

However, in this case, as I said earlier, BPA is Hughes and he fills a need, so we should all agree on this and be happy. This Zadina thing has to stop.
 
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Naslund said:
Pacioretty
Galchenyuk
Drouin
Lehkonen
Scherbak
Hudon
We certainly can go wrong with Zadina. They don't give the Stanley Cup to the team with the most left-handed wingers. Zadina is a decent player, but Hughes is much better and he fill a big need on d for us on the left side. No brainer.
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Except Patches will be gone by October, you know in your heart of hearts Drouin will still be at center - the most you can expect from the Idiot is one top 6 center every 10 year extension - and Scherbak may be left handed but he plays on the right wing. So you're left with three left wings if you decided not to play Chucky on his stronger wing - the right.

But if it's a tie between Hughes and Zadina as BPA, yeah go with Hughes. He fills a desperate need.
 
Habs Icing said:
Except Patches will be gone by October, you know in your heart of hearts Drouin will still be at center - the most you can expect from the Idiot is one top 6 center every 10 year extension - and Scherbak may be left handed but he plays on the right wing. So you're left with three left wings if you decided not to play Chucky on his stronger wing - the right.
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That's a lot of negative rearrangement to fit Zadina in your depth chart, but hey, if you think he is that good to compensate for all this nonsense, be my guest and cheer really hard when that idiot Bergevin pick him at the 3rd spot. I will not.
 
Naslund said:
That's a lot of negative rearrangement to fit Zadina in your depth chart, but hey, if you think he is that good to compensate for all this nonsense, be my guest and cheer really hard when that idiot Bergevin pick him at the 3rd spot. I will not.
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I originally forgot to add the last sentence in the post you responded to.

First off it's not negative rearrangement. It's a reality. Scherbak plays right wing no matter where you have him slotted in your head.

Patches being traded is just a formality.

Drouin is staying at center. The Idiot can't get two top 6 centers in one offseason. (I pray I'm wrong with this statement)

You may have a point with Chucky but there's no denying he scores most of his goals from the right side.
 
Naslund said:
Easily filling your needs with trades! How has this work for our Habs (or any other team in the league)? Is Toronto finding good D through trade? Is Montreal close to acquiring that 1C or 2C with a good trade? Has trade finally fixed the goalie situation in Philly? You make it sounds like you can always find the right trading partner at the right time. This is rarely the case. When you decide (or are forced) to trade because of poor team management on your part, you will take a hit, meaning that the value you will get back will not be what you put in the trade. The upcoming Pacioretty trade this summer will show a clear example of that. In addition, left-handed wingers is the easiest position to fill on a NHL roster. Only a fool can think that a Zadina trade will return you equivalent talent playing first-pairing LHD or 1C/2C?. See what Yzerman did to Bergevin last summer. Not a single GM in the league would trade Sergachev for Drouin.

However, in this case, as I said earlier, BPA is Hughes and he fills a need, so we should all agree on this and be happy. This Zadina thing has to stop.
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This Zadina thing has to stop?.....:laugh:

He's the most likely #3 overall pick while Hughes is like at 6 or 7.....I believe it is you who has to stop this nonsense. Nobody is trading Zadina....like WTF are u talking about.

Plus Zadina plays RW......see ya
 
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jaffy27 said:
Or.......draft Zadina and trade one or two of your LW's for the help on LD.

Draft BPA .....trade for needs
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The problem is our position of strength for trading is the least valuable position..... I agree draft bpa but we can't fill our homes via trade. That why we need a full tear down and rebuild. The team is built wrong. We need to be in the running for Hughes next year and Lafreniere next.....
 
I am a little surprised at the amount of debate for a 3rd OA pick when there has been a clear consensus who the top 3 are. If Habs scouts have this much debate at their table then they better trade down.
 
Naslund said:
Easily filling your needs with trades! How has this work for our Habs (or any other team in the league)? Is Toronto finding good D through trade? Is Montreal close to acquiring that 1C or 2C with a good trade? Has trade finally fixed the goalie situation in Philly? You make it sounds like you can always find the right trading partner at the right time. This is rarely the case. When you decide (or are forced) to trade because of poor team management on your part, you will take a hit, meaning that the value you will get back will not be what you put in the trade. The upcoming Pacioretty trade this summer will show a clear example of that. In addition, left-handed wingers is the easiest position to fill on a NHL roster. Only a fool can think that a Zadina trade will return you equivalent talent playing first-pairing LHD or 1C/2C?. See what Yzerman did to Bergevin last summer. Not a single GM in the league would trade Sergachev for Drouin.

However, in this case, as I said earlier, BPA is Hughes and he fills a need, so we should all agree on this and be happy. This Zadina thing has to stop.
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If bpa at 3 was hughes than there would be more than 0 articles online about him going there maybe your holding him a bit higher than you should 9 out of 10 have zadina at 3 and im sure thats not a coincidence
 
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DramaticGloveSave said:
Taking Kotkaniemi at 3 would be a desperate and firable offence. We're desperate for a center, but there are other ways to get it done. trading Pacioretty for a pick in the 8-12 range makes way more sense.
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Ignoring the fact that Bergevin has made more than one firable offense, the firable offense would be to ignore the consensus in the war room and make the pick based on web based scouting services' rankings. If their clear #2 or #3 is there, pick him (regardless of what the media pundits and fans think). If they have multiple players in the same tier, pick the player at the most valuable position (if players from multiple positions are in the same tier in their eyes).

It'll also look really bad if they pick a guy who proves to be a unidimensional winger and Kotkaniemi proves to be a legit #1 C or one of the Dmen becomes a star (or one of the other wingers proves to be the better scorer or more valuable).
 
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Genghis Keon said:
Ignoring the fact that Bergevin has made more than one firable offense, the firable offense would be to ignore the consensus in the war room and make the pick based on web based scouting services' rankings. If their clear #2 or #3 is there, pick him (regardless of what the media pundits and fans think). If they have multiple players in the same tier, pick the player at the most valuable position (if players from multiple positions are in the same tier in their eyes).

It'll also look really bad if they pick a guy who proves to be a unidimensional winger and Kotkaniemi proves to be a legit #1 C or one of the Dmen becomes a star (or one of the other wingers proves to be the better scorer or more valuable).
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Would also look really bad if they pick a 3rd line center and miss out on a 40 goal scorer, which seems far more likley to happen to me
 
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MrNasty said:
I am a little surprised at the amount of debate for a 3rd OA pick when there has been a clear consensus who the top 3 are. If Habs scouts have this much debate at their table then they better trade down.
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Why have scouts? Just pick the consensus player.........
 
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MC94 said:
Would also look really bad if they pick a 3rd line center and miss out on a 40 goal scorer, which seems far more likley to happen to me
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That's true. If they like Zadina (or Wahlstrom or Tkachuk or other winger) the best and he's available, pick the guy.

They have to live with the player they pick, so make sure it's the guy they want.
 
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