Prior to the U18s, I felt we had an honest shot at getting him in the second. Now, I am not so sure. I think he’ll be gone by the time we pick. There are some other good centers available in the second though.
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Prior to the U18s, I felt we had an honest shot at getting him in the second. Now, I am not so sure. I think he’ll be gone by the time we pick. There are some other good centers available in the second though.
1-Cam Hillis - great skater and passer, works hard, smart
2-Ty Dellandrea -
3-Jacob Olofsson -
4-Jay O'Brien -
5-David Gustafsson
6-Liam Foudy - fastest skater in the draft
7-Milos Roman
8-Jake Wise
9-Jack McBain - big project
10-Ivan Morozov
11-Alex Khovanov - great passer but doesn't have that next gear
12-Chase Wouters
13-Cole Fonstad - perimeter player
14-Kyle Topping
15-Phillip Kurashev
16-Nathan Dunkley
17-Riley Stotts - strong second half after the trade
18-Luka Burzan
19-Blade Jenkins
20-Mathias Laferriere
21-Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
Aiden Dudas-a winger
2-Ty Dellandrea -
3-Jacob Olofsson -
4-Jay O'Brien -
5-David Gustafsson
6-Liam Foudy - fastest skater in the draft
7-Milos Roman
8-Jake Wise
9-Jack McBain - big project
10-Ivan Morozov
11-Alex Khovanov - great passer but doesn't have that next gear
12-Chase Wouters
13-Cole Fonstad - perimeter player
14-Kyle Topping
15-Phillip Kurashev
16-Nathan Dunkley
17-Riley Stotts - strong second half after the trade
18-Luka Burzan
19-Blade Jenkins
20-Mathias Laferriere
21-Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
Aiden Dudas-a winger
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Could maybe be one full time next season with Pu graduating. London has a logjam at center.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Think I read somewhere he had a stretch at C but yeah ideally you'd want him using that speed of his as often as possible.
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Habs Halifax
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Who knows a lot about Kupari? According to Cam Robinson's latest rankings and description of him, he is ranked 15th and his drafting report on him is...
Cracked the WJC roster for the Fins and did well in a secondary role. He owns high-end playmaking ability that compliments his quick and elusive style. Small role with a top-level Liiga team limited his production. Will need to continue to build his frame, but is a smart player who defends well.
Lets say we take Zadina and trade Patch to the Panthers for the 15th pick and another piece. Lets also say the top 14 are Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Boqvist, Wahlstrom, Hughes, Dobson, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Smith, Farabee, Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Hayton. Would you be happy with Zadina and Kupari from the 1st round?
The other center after Kupari is Lundestrom and he is ranking somewhere around 20th.
Cracked the WJC roster for the Fins and did well in a secondary role. He owns high-end playmaking ability that compliments his quick and elusive style. Small role with a top-level Liiga team limited his production. Will need to continue to build his frame, but is a smart player who defends well.
Lets say we take Zadina and trade Patch to the Panthers for the 15th pick and another piece. Lets also say the top 14 are Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Boqvist, Wahlstrom, Hughes, Dobson, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Smith, Farabee, Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Hayton. Would you be happy with Zadina and Kupari from the 1st round?
The other center after Kupari is Lundestrom and he is ranking somewhere around 20th.
I think Kupari and Lundestrom are fine choices. Both I think can be top-6 centers, though I am not sure about Lundestrom being the go to #1C. They’re about the same size, both played in men’s leagues, but I like Kupari more as he’s a righty and in my opinion a better skater. Lundestrom isn’t a bad skater at all, but Kupari seems quicker to me with perhaps more offensive upside.
Habs Halifax
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If the Panthers are willing to do a Patch for the 15th pick and Mascherin. I'm taking Zadina and who is left from Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Hayton, Kupari at the 15th spot. It's almost 100% chance that one of those guys will be available.
Zadina, and a grade A prospect at Center along with our other 9 picks from 35-128 range. It would be a great Draft! Might measure up to the 07 draft. Maybe? lol.
Habs Halifax
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Also trying to gauge the 25-60 rankings to see who we can pick. My targets are Wise, Tychonick, Sandin, Dellandrea, Alexeyev. But I'm starting to get concerned that none of these guys will be available when we pick 35. I know there are other options but I wonder what point this deep draft start to become normal? Cause normal means only 1 or 2 guys that become impact players in the NHL from the 2nd round. My wildest guess is there is 4 or 5 impact players in the 2nd round from this draft.
I think Bergevin makes a trade with those 2nd's to get another 1st from 20-30 range. I think we should target one of Tychonick or Sandin. 35 and 57 for 25-30 range. I'd do it to ensure we get a potential grade A prospect at LD. Tychonick and Mete would fit well with either Juulsen, Brook, or Fleury down the road IMO.
I think Bergevin makes a trade with those 2nd's to get another 1st from 20-30 range. I think we should target one of Tychonick or Sandin. 35 and 57 for 25-30 range. I'd do it to ensure we get a potential grade A prospect at LD. Tychonick and Mete would fit well with either Juulsen, Brook, or Fleury down the road IMO.
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Janne Niinimaa
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I know we need a centre and I would like to draft a couple even if they didnt happen to be BPA at our slots. But if we were to get pick #15 and those 14 were off the board, the easy pick IMO is Kravstov.
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Don't know much about him. But my plan would be to take who is left from Kotkaniemi, Veleno, Hayton, Kupari with the 15th pick. Especially if we take Zadina at 3rd. Who does Kravstov replace on the wing with our young core in 2 or 3 years time? Drouin, Galchenyuk, Zadina, Gallagher, Scherbak, Lehkonen? That also don't factor in if Ikonen, Bitten, Hudon, Mascherin (Patch trade), surprise and become top 9 players as well.
I'm targeting a grade A prospect and if we don't get one from this draft. I think it will be a disappointment
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My first round list:
1.Dahlin
2.Svechnikov
3.Hughes/Boqvist
4.Boqvist/Hughes
5.Wahlstrom
6.Zadina
7.Kotkaniemi
8.Dobson
9.Smith
10.Tkachuk
11.Bouchard
12.Farabee
13.Kravtsov
14.Lunderstorm
15.Kaut
16.Hallander
17.Lundkvist
18.Thomas
19.Sandin
20.Alexeyev
21.Berggren
22.Kupari
23.Dellandrea
24.Denisenko
25.Hayton
26.Veleno
27.Shafigullin
28.Addison
29.Wilde
30.Tychonick
31.Merkley
After 14 is really hard so I'm probably going to switch it up along the way
1.Dahlin
2.Svechnikov
3.Hughes/Boqvist
4.Boqvist/Hughes
5.Wahlstrom
6.Zadina
7.Kotkaniemi
8.Dobson
9.Smith
10.Tkachuk
11.Bouchard
12.Farabee
13.Kravtsov
14.Lunderstorm
15.Kaut
16.Hallander
17.Lundkvist
18.Thomas
19.Sandin
20.Alexeyev
21.Berggren
22.Kupari
23.Dellandrea
24.Denisenko
25.Hayton
26.Veleno
27.Shafigullin
28.Addison
29.Wilde
30.Tychonick
31.Merkley
After 14 is really hard so I'm probably going to switch it up along the way
Janne Niinimaa
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Kravstov can make Scherbak, Lekhonen and probably Gallagher in that time. He's that good.
You don't pass on someone like Kravstov who is close to a top 10 prospect in this draft because of mediocre wingers and to pick Kupari who has very very questionable hockey IQ.
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The draft is about acquiring to best assets possible. You can trade the assets to fill holes. I dont want to see the habs reach for a player to try to fill a need down the road. The habs need help everywhere but in goal.
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I'm done with the BPA style of drafting. It's not really rosters that have needs, it's organizations, and I don't think you get in trouble when you draft for need. You get in trouble because you don't draft a very good player. That, to me, sounds like a scouting issue, not a strategy issue.
Moreover, I think that wingers tend to look better than centers, ceteris paribus, which would lead you to erroneously say that the winger is ''BPA'' way more often. Hell, there are twice as many wingers as there are centers, so if you don't make it a priority to draft centers, for example, you could very well end up drafting none, and be left with the impossible task of trying to trade for one.
Mrb1p
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You don't trade wingers for center, that's bs. Unless you fall on some stupid GM, who trades Seguin away for a winger.
You don't trade wingers for center, that's bs. Unless you fall on some stupid GM, who trades Seguin away for a winger.
Janne Niinimaa
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I agree with this if the players are similar. I wouldn't pass on a much better winger to take a centre. Or skip on a very good RD because we need LD.
Farabee, Kravstov > Lundestrom, Kupari
Mrb1p
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Are you sure ? I mean, look at their NHL upside. Kupari has some incredible bust potential, but a middle 6 C in Lundestrom is probably worth more than a guy like Farabee or Kravtsov.
Janne Niinimaa
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I'm not sold on Lundestrom as a centre. If he is, i see a 3rd line C in him. At best maybe he hits 2nd line winger.
In Farabee and Kravstov I see good top 6 wingers. Potentially 1st line wingers that can hit 60 points.
I wouldnt have an issue with taking Lundestrom but I see a lot more potential in Farabee and Kravstov.
In Farabee and Kravstov I see good top 6 wingers. Potentially 1st line wingers that can hit 60 points.
I wouldnt have an issue with taking Lundestrom but I see a lot more potential in Farabee and Kravstov.
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