Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #9 - Vitali Kravtsov (RW) - Part V

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Not directed at you specifically but I think the general view of Chytil's potential on the board is VERY conservative. Yeah, most do acknowledge a top-6 potential but probably would give it a 60/40 chance. We all have to remind ourselves that he's barely older than Kravtsov and was able to spend the whole season in NHL with significant time spent in a top-6 role as a teenager WITHOUT a pedigree of being at the very top of his draft class. I think he's a guaranteed top-6 and likely a top line (center) material by the time he's 22-23.

from your lips to God's ears, but I don't mind that we're a bit more conservative in our projections, unlike some fanbases...

 

[maris]

Can't Kreider play with breadman and Zib as center?

 

[offdacrossbar]

something tells me that were gonna see kravtsov and panarin together alot this year. thats a match made in heaven with mika.

the 2C thing really is a thing though. there just isnt anyone there that slots in between say buchnevich and kakko.

i have no problem with an experienced player who can skate. with 2 of our projected top 4 wingers being rooks, an experienced 2C would seem to make sense.

there must be a deal out there somewhere for a 2C who can step right in to this roster.

otherwise, its strome, howden or names I'm afraid.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Can't Kreider play with breadman and Zib as center?

Yes but one of he or Panarin would have to slide over to RW.

People need to stop pairing Panarin and Zibanejad though. There is no reason to load up and become a one line team.

 

[Zynbanejad]

something tells me that were gonna see kravtsov and panarin together alot this year. thats a match made in heaven with mika.

the 2C thing really is a thing though. there just isnt anyone there that slots in between say buchnevich and kakko.

i have no problem with an experienced player who can skate. with 2 of our projected top 4 wingers being rooks, an experienced 2C would seem to make sense.

there must be a deal out there somewhere for a 2C who can step right in to this roster.

otherwise, its strome, howden or names I'm afraid.

You see Chytil on the wing?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Yes but one of he or Panarin would have to slide over to RW.

People need to stop pairing Panarin and Zibanejad though. There is no reason to load up and become a one line team.

You need to talk to Quinn, since that’s what he said the plan was when Panarin was signed.

 

[Ghost of jas]

You see Chytil on the wing?

A few of us do.

 

[GAGLine]

something tells me that were gonna see kravtsov and panarin together alot this year. thats a match made in heaven with mika.

the 2C thing really is a thing though. there just isnt anyone there that slots in between say buchnevich and kakko.

i have no problem with an experienced player who can skate. with 2 of our projected top 4 wingers being rooks, an experienced 2C would seem to make sense.

there must be a deal out there somewhere for a 2C who can step right in to this roster.

otherwise, its strome, howden or names I'm afraid.

Or Chytil. Anyone that can actually play 2C at a 2C level is going to cost more than we can afford. Let's clear cap, get our RFAs signed, and go from there. If someone is available for cheap and makes sense, grab him. If not, let's see what we have in camp and if anyone becomes available (via waivers or trade) that we think can help, fine. If not, let the kids try to win that spot and use Strome/Names (assuming either is still here) in that spot if they aren't ready.

 

[Leetch3]

You need to talk to Quinn, since that’s what he said the plan was when Panarin was signed.

well its not like he could say he plans to play him with the giant question mark at 2C

 

[Ghost of jas]

well its not like he could say he plans to play him with the giant question mark at 2C

But he could say he plans to keep them separate to spread out the offense.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

But he could say he plans to keep them separate to spread out the offense.

f*** "spreading out the offense" all that does is gimp your best players by making them play with scrubs. I'd rather have one great scoring line than 3 mediocre ones.

 

[Leetch3]

**** "spreading out the offense" all that does is gimp your best players by making them play with scrubs. I'd rather have one great scoring line than 3 mediocre ones.

yeah definitely wouldn't want to help the development of chytil and kravtsov by playing them with panarin

 

[MetalJaws]

IMO, no way Panarin doesn't play with Zib. Quinn will likely try almost everybody on the other side of them. Buch, Krav, Kakko, Chytil and Kreids being the obvious ones. Same goes for the 2c opening everyone will be auditioning for. The lines will change a lot this year. Gotta find some gel. Just keep Fast the f*** away from the top 9 forwards group.

 

[Rongomania]

IMO, no way Panarin doesn't play with Zib. Quinn will likely try almost everybody on the other side of them. Buch, Krav, Kakko, Chytil and Kreids being the obvious ones. Same goes for the 2c opening everyone will be auditioning for. The lines will change a lot this year. Gotta find some gel. Just keep Fast the **** away from the top 9 forwards group.

I think either Lias or Chytil runs away with 2c at some point this season... I've had that feeling since the season ended.. That is such a crucial thing to happen for this team to start to take that next step - 2c = solidified.

Dark horse: Brett Howden.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

**** "spreading out the offense" all that does is gimp your best players by making them play with scrubs. I'd rather have one great scoring line than 3 mediocre ones.

If the rest of the team is filled out with ‘scrubs’ then this team isn’t winning anything

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

If the rest of the team is filled out with ‘scrubs’ then this team isn’t winning anything

I don't mean our team specifically, its just generally a pet peeve of mine when coaches do that, very Babcockian. Last year we saw some pushback against that trend, and a lot of teams rolled 1 super line and it gave good results (Colorado, Boston, Florida, Chicago put Kane back with Toews for a while, etc)

 

[offdacrossbar]

You see Chytil on the wing?

i do.

i see a player who is better on the edge to use his size and speed without the defensive responsibilities that come with the 2C. hes still finding his way. quinn wasn't in love with the effort last year. he needs more time to develop and find out what type of player he is.

down the road ?? who knows, right now, i see him on a 3rd line with lemme and howden.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I don't mean our team specifically, its just generally a pet peeve of mine when coaches do that, very Babcockian. Last year we saw some pushback against that trend, and a lot of teams rolled 1 super line and it gave good results (Colorado, Boston, Florida, Chicago put Kane back with Toews for a while, etc)

It gave good results for their point totals I guess. But once they go cold, or you can’t get secondary scoring, what’s it really worth?

 

[Tawnos]

**** "spreading out the offense" all that does is gimp your best players by making them play with scrubs. I'd rather have one great scoring line than 3 mediocre ones.

It depends on the quality of the players you're talking about and the makeup of your team. The Rangers went to the Cup Final by spreading out the offense, because their 3rd line was able to take advantage of weaker opposition. But that also happened because no one was really head and shoulders above anyone else. There were no offensive superstars on that team, but their depth 1-9 was better than most teams including many who did have offensive superstars at the top. But if you do have offensive superstars, then I do agree that you should load em up.

 

[Rongomania]

The thought of Panarin and Kravs stapled to Zbads wings is like my hockey wet dream.

Oh, and we have Kakko.

Offense is about to be nightmarish for these opposing teams.

 

[offdacrossbar]

yeah definitely wouldn't want to help the development of chytil and kravtsov by playing them with panarin

panarin makes his line mates better

his passing skills are sublime. hes both setup guy and finisher both.

that line of panarin kravtsov and mika will be dynamic and dangerous.

panarin with kakko would also be outstanding.

there going to be 2 lines featuring 2 rookies thats a given. kravtsov is here to play. hell have one of the top 6 wing spots. kakko too.

CK won't be here. its gonna be panarin, Kravtsov, kakko and buchnevich. chytl on line 3

all we need is that 2C.

 

[MetalJaws]

I think either Lias or Chytil runs away with 2c at some point this season... I've had that feeling since the season ended.. That is such a crucial thing to happen for this team to start to take that next step - 2c = solidified.

Dark horse: Brett Howden.

I would be thrilled to have LA step up huge this year and put Chytil and Howden on alert. Partially because half this board thinks he's a nobody but also because it would mean the team is gonna be in high gear these next few years. I think Strome is more than capable if the kids play like kids for another year. No major strides anywhere just a gradual learning curve, which is fine.

As optimistic as I am, I understand you can't hit on everything. Regardless, the next decade of Rangers hockey might just be the brightest and best yet.

 

[MetalJaws]

panarin makes his line mates better

his passing skills are sublime. hes both setup guy and finisher both.

that line of panarin kravtsov and mika will be dynamic and dangerous.

panarin with kakko would also be outstanding.

there going to be 2 lines featuring 2 rookies thats a given. kravtsov is here to play. hell have one of the top 6 wing spots. kakko too.

CK won't be here. its gonna be panarin, Kravtsov, kakko and buchnevich. chytl on line 3

all we need is that 2C.

RNH somehow. Or just wait till Chytil, LA or Howden step up and hand it to Strome for the year.

 

[Rongomania]

I would be thrilled to have LA step up huge this year and put Chytil and Howden on alert. Partially because half this board thinks he's a nobody but also because it would mean the team is gonna be in high gear these next few years. I think Strome is more than capable if the kids play like kids for another year. No major strides anywhere just a gradual learning curve, which is fine.

As optimistic as I am, I understand you can't hit on everything. Regardless, the next decade of Rangers hockey might just be the brightest and best yet.

Man, do I sure hope so.

The fierce competition for all of these spots is going to be entertaining as all hell.

 

[MetalJaws]

Man, do I sure hope so.

The fierce competition for all of these spots is going to be entertaining as all hell.