Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #9 - Vitali Kravtsov (RW) - Part III

[Tawnos]

I care little about the year of the ELC, but I think there might be potential expansion draft implications? Have forgotten the rules already.

9 games in the NHL and it won’t matter, either for the ELC slide or seasons accrued for expansion.

Personally, I think it might be beneficial to burn a year off his deal. That being said, there’s no way I’d want him to need protection in the expansion draft. 9 games or less, the rest in the AHL.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

9 games in the NHL and it won’t matter, either for the ELC slide or seasons accrued for expansion.

Personally, I think it might be beneficial to burn a year off his deal. That being said, there’s no way I’d want him to need protection in the expansion draft. 9 games or less, the rest in the AHL.

9 game rule does not apply. His contract will count if he plays 1 game.

Here's why: He will sign his contract in the year where he turns 20. Because of this, the 9-game slide rule voids and the 1st year of the ELC counts regardless.

A similar situation with Mittelstadt last season

 

[kovazub94]

Posted this too on his prospect page, Traktor likely miss the playoffs so we’re only about 2 and a half months away from seeing Kravtsov in a Rangers jersey (-:

Traktor is not likely to miss playoffs. Right now it’s 50/50 proposition at worse. They are only a point away from the 8 spot after Kunlun lost today.

Traktor had a terrible start to the season with the coaching controversy where Titov proved to be plainly incompetent in the way he ran the camp and the system he tried to instill. Add devastating run of injuries that literally eliminated their first line (and more) as it was put together in the beginning of the season that was counted on to carry the team. Now their coaching situation is stable, these injured players are starting to come back, Kravtsov is playing on a different level, his linemate Glinkin is getting back to his expected form.

 

[Irishguy42]

If Kravstov plays one NHL game after he comes over in 2019, during this season, a year of his ELC burns and he does not become exempt from the 2021 expansion draft.

That is how that will work. An ATO with Hartford is the correct and only move the Rangers should make.

 

[kovazub94]

I'm pretty certain the only one you'll see in that Hartford lineup is Kravtsov.

If (when) the Rangers miss playoffs I’m expecting them to send all of these guys to play in the AHL playoffs if Hartford is in it.

 

[Tawnos]

9 game rule does not apply. His contract will count if he plays 1 game.

Here's why: He will sign his contract in the year where he turns 20. Because of this, the 9-game slide rule voids and the 1st year of the ELC counts regardless.

A similar situation with Mittelstadt last season

Thought his bday was earlier.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thought his bday was earlier.

That wouldn't change anything

 

[Irishguy42]

Thought his bday was earlier.

He turns 19 in 18 days.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What it comes down to is this:

Mittelstadt is a '98 birthday, signed ELC in 2018: No slide rule
Andersson is a '98 birthday, signed ELC in 2017: Slide rule
Chytil is a '99 birthday, signed ELC in 2017: Slide rule
Kravtsov is a '99 birthday, signs ELC in 2019: No slide rule

This is why you see teams sign prospects on Dec 31st sometimes. Rangers did it with Gropp, if I remember orrectly.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don’t think the rangers care about burning that year.

They should, but I don’t think they do.

 

[E-Train]

If (when) the Rangers miss playoffs I’m expecting them to send all of these guys to play in the AHL playoffs if Hartford is in it.

ADA for certain will not. As for the others, not impossible but highly unlikely they're sent to Hartford after a full season in the NHL. World Championships most likely.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don’t think the rangers care about burning that year.

They should, but I don’t think they do.

I think with the expansion draft on the horizon, it changes things a bit.

 

[nyr2k2]

This is from Brooks' column:

"The timing of the expansion draft mitigates against the Blueshirts signing 2018 ninth-overall selection Vitali Kravtsov and bringing him to Broadway after his KHL season ends. Kravtsov would be exempt from claim by Seattle if he signs his three-year entry-level deal this summer. The Rangers could bring the winger over and have him play with the AHL Wolf Pack on an Amateur Tryout."

So, that, if nothing else, should preclude them from burning a year this season.

https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/why-the-nhls-seattle-expansion-could-hurt-the-rangers/

 

[Tawnos]

That wouldn't change anything

By earlier, I meant Chytil earlier.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

By earlier, I meant Chytil earlier.

You thought he was younger?

 

[Tawnos]

You thought he was younger?

Right. I thought he was a ‘00 for some reason and was 17 on draft day. Turns out I was thinking of Lundkvist.

 

[Irishguy42]

Yep. He has to be protected if he plays a single game in the NHL this season.

All 2018 picks will be exempt, assuming they don't sign an ELC and play in the NHL this season.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Right. I thought he was a ‘00 for some reason and was 17 on draft day. Turns out I was thinking of Lundkvist.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, Nils is a '00

Anyway, Kravtsov doesn't qualify for an ELC slide. I don't expect Kravtsov to play for the Rangers this season

 

[Tawnos]

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, Nils is a '00

Anyway, Kravtsov doesn't qualify for an ELC slide. I don't expect Kravtsov to play for the Rangers this season

I don’t care about the ELC slide. Kravtsov would be someone I would definitely consider getting to his 2nd contract as soon as possible.

I do care about the expansion draft exemption though.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don’t care about the ELC slide. Kravtsov would be someone I would definitely consider getting to his 2nd contract as soon as possible.

I do care about the expansion draft exemption though.

Agreed. It's bad enough we have to protect Chytil and Lias

 

[Tawnos]

Agreed. It's bad enough we have to protect Chytil and Lias

I consider it a fair trade, since we won’t have to protect any of the older D.

The Wolfpack are here in Charlotte March 23 & 24. I’m now hoping Traktor misses the playoffs.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I consider it a fair trade, since we won’t have to protect any of the older D.

The Wolfpack are here in Charlotte March 23 & 24. I’m now hoping Traktor misses the playoffs.

If Kravtsov plays for Hartford, I might fly in and join you for that game. If that's alright with you haha

 

[Tawnos]

If Kravtsov plays for Hartford, I might fly in and join you for that game. If that's alright with you haha

That’s cool. It’d be at least me and my dad. Possibly my nephews (8 & 10), sister, brother in law (a Penguins fan, blech), and mom for one game too. Not sure if that interests you, haha

Flights to Charlotte are generally cheap. That being said, I’m sure there are better arenas he will be playing in. Bojangles Coliseum is meh, even if I can walk to it from my apartment.

 

[kovazub94]

ADA for certain will not. As for the others, not impossible but highly unlikely they're sent to Hartford after a full season in the NHL. World Championships most likely.

I hear you re. ADA. Pionk will be kept out too but I was commenting more about Chytil and Andersson (and Howden) who would benefit from continuing to play after the NHL season is over. World championship could be an option too, given both participated to different extents last year.

 

[Blue Blooded]

The reason ADA won't is that there will be 30 waiver claims sent as soon as the transaction is announced. The other guys don't require waivers so there is at least a possibility, however slight, that they might join the Pack for the playoffs.