Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #9 - Vitali Kravtsov (RW) - Part III

[kovazub94]

All joking aside, I think Kravstov is probably 2 years ahead of Wahlstrom in development right now. Not saying Wahlstrom won't turn into a good player, but we'll see the rewards of the pick much sooner.

Very generally, it doesn’t work like that. We are not making a comparison between prospects from different drafts or different age spectrum from the same draft (like Chytil compares to most prospects from 2017 draft). Unless there will be a huge developmental jump in Wahlstrom’s development soon, this difference you noting right now (in terms of years) is actually indicative of the difference in their respective ceilings.

 

[Fvital92]

Very generally, it doesn’t work like that. We are not making a comparison between prospects from different drafts or different age spectrum from the same draft (like Chytil compares to most prospects from 2017 draft). Unless there will be a huge developmental jump in Wahlstrom’s development soon, this difference you noting right now (in terms of years) is actually indicative of the difference in their respective ceilings.

Tippet, Wahlstrom... Teams shouldn't draft players based only on their shot.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Classic

 

[Machinehead]

Classic

What a bozo

 

[egelband]

Classic

He should have shot the puck *into* the net. Just my two cents.

 

[aufheben]

Jesus H Christ.

 

[Barnaby]

I think Wahlstrom is still a prospect that I'd love to have, but I am surprised by his start this year.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Can we please stop the whole Kravstov vs. Whalstrom debate already and just concentrate on the prospect who is NYR property? I know the fanbase has PTSD from years of questionable picks and we always have to defend ourselves as Rangers fans because of generalizations that are years old "oh Rangers don't draft well" blah blah Dale Rolfe balh blah.

As fans we've experienced a decade of one trip to the SCF, two ECFs, a President's Trophy, and two Division titles. That was pretty darn good. This kid is pretty dynamic and might very well be part of something special soon.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Can we please stop the whole Kravstov vs. Whalstrom debate already and just concentrate on the prospect who is NYR property? I know the fanbase has PTSD from years of questionable picks and we always have to defend ourselves as Rangers fans because of generalizations that are years old "oh Rangers don't draft well" blah blah Dale Rolfe balh blah.

As fans we've experienced a decade of one trip to the SCF, two ECFs, a President's Trophy, and two Division titles. That was pretty darn good. This kid is pretty dynamic and might very well be part of something special soon.

It's all tongue in cheek. A response to the constant comparison which won't end any time soon.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

I have nothing but despise for Wahlstrom, Dobson and Wilde. Kravtsov was the better pick the moment we drafted him.

 

[LORDE]

Of course less than 6 months later Kravtsov is a stud and all others are bust.

HF boards... Andersson <<<<<<<<< Middlestat

at same time Krav >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone else

 

[Tawnos]

I have nothing but despise for Wahlstrom, Dobson and Wilde. Kravtsov was the better pick the moment we drafted him.

I only despise those three players because they're Islanders.

 

[Fvital92]

I have nothing but despise for Wahlstrom, Dobson and Wilde. Kravtsov was the better pick the moment we drafted him.

I want them to be good, I just want us to be better. Imagine beating the shit out of the Islanders in the playoffs for next decade, it will be a great time to be alive.

 

[Levitate]

I think it's 100% possible that Wahlstrom becomes a very good goal scorer in the NHL...30-40 goals etc. It's entirely likely that Kravtsov is more of a 20-30 goal scorer in the NHL at his best. But I think if they both hit their potential that Kravtsov would be the more complete player who could put up more points and drive play by himself. He's the kind of player who controls the puck and makes plays for his linemates, guys like Wahlstrom would be. They'd probably be a great duo together

 

[Kovalev27]

wahlstrom is a stud. he leads the nation in freshman shots on goal. they'll start going in here eventually. he's too good for them not too.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

wahlstrom is a stud. he leads the nation in freshman shots on goal. they'll start going in here eventually. he's too good for them not too.

Maybe he just takes a lot of garbage shots from the perimeter?

 

[FireGerardGallant]

wahlstrom is a stud. he leads the nation in freshman shots on goal. they'll start going in here eventually. he's too good for them not too.

I don't understand why both can't be good and we gotta talk about how much one is better then the other. It was the same thing with Mittlesdat and Lias last year. Both can become good really players

 

[duhmetreE]

Classic

That's an omen

 

[Machinehead]

Getting a bit more excited about this guy

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don't understand why both can't be good and we gotta talk about how much one is better then the other. It was the same thing with Mittlesdat and Lias last year. Both can become good really players

Because people need to justify to themselves that Lias wasn't a reach

They're both top 30-35 prospects. No need to shit on one or the other

 

[kovazub94]

There’s a long road ahead for both of them before they reach their eventual roles in the NHL, but so far Kravtsov and Chytil are proving they were very good value picks relative to where they were drafted.

Edge mentioned it before but for many of us it’s not a familiar place to evaluate progress of high- and mid-1st round draft picks. Pretty soon though we will be able to see and compare their relative (among themselves) progress.

 

[Edge]

I think it's 100% possible that Wahlstrom becomes a very good goal scorer in the NHL...30-40 goals etc. It's entirely likely that Kravtsov is more of a 20-30 goal scorer in the NHL at his best. But I think if they both hit their potential that Kravtsov would be the more complete player who could put up more points and drive play by himself. He's the kind of player who controls the puck and makes plays for his linemates, guys like Wahlstrom would be. They'd probably be a great duo together

I definitely think that’s a possibility.

Kravtsov’s upside to me is more of a complete, overall offensive player. I suspect he’ll be more of a playmaker than a sniper, whereas Wahlstrom probably projects the opposite way.

I continue to hear the Rangers were high on Wahlstrom, so the debate probably came down to preferences rather than being a straight good/bad discussion.

 

[EdJovanovski]

https://www.tsn.ca/kc-lorem-ipsum-dolor-sit-amet-template-1.1209907

TSN ranked Kravtsov 49th in their rankings of top 50 players under 24, ranking him 5th of players drafted this year, just one behind Svechnikov at 48

1. Dahlin
2. Kotkaniemi
3. Tkachuk
4. Svechnikov
5. Kravtsov

 

[FireGerardGallant]

https://www.tsn.ca/kc-lorem-ipsum-dolor-sit-amet-template-1.1209907

TSN ranked Kravtsov 49th in their rankings of top 50 players under 24, ranking him 5th of players drafted this year, just one behind Svechnikov at 48

1. Dahlin
2. Kotkaniemi
3. Tkachuk
4. Svechnikov
5. Kravtsov

 

[Kovalev27]

How bout shesterkin. First guy outside the nhl on that list. First goalie. Top 20.