I'm pretty much aligned with you on your hopes and picks, except I think Boston pulls it out. The Canes series definitely has been fun, I'm intrigued to see how Ovechkin responds, he was losing it at the end of yesterdays game. Really hope the mythology of Mr. Game 7 lives on and Williams can get his team to the next round.
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I'm pretty much aligned with you on your hopes and picks, except I think Boston pulls it out. The Canes series definitely has been fun, I'm intrigued to see how Ovechkin responds, he was losing it at the end of yesterdays game. Really hope the mythology of Mr. Game 7 lives on and Williams can get his team to the next round.
KopitarFAN
Reno Sucks!
I think what they are getting at is we all had to eat shit, all of the 67 expansion franchises (and all of those since, except STL because of that weird division format) had to eat some shit before experiencing meaningful success. People are genuinely happy for CBJ because they've earned it like the rest of us did.
Colorado was a different issue because they were moved, the league wasn't able to set them up for success.
Master Yoda
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And if Boston and Washington win, the potential road for CBJ could look a lot like the 2012 Kings.
KINGS17
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You can't know what you don't know. The Kings proved in 2012-14 they were built for the playoffs.
KINGS17
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Vegas fans need to be humble, because that's what sports fans do? Well, I guess not. Still I get how Vegas fans are rubbing other fan bases the wrong way. It's what makes rivalries fun and interesting.
When is Vegas allowed to win a cup? Around another 43 years.
Ziggy Stardust
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Steve Zissou
I'll order you a red cap and a Speedo.
Concur.
* 82 games is too much of a grind when you include the post season, especially when you are lucky enough to be able to make it to the post season in consecutive years
* The injury bug hits everyone but the wear and tear on players body has to factor into getting injured at some point during the season
* Would be kind of nice to see players not fizzle out so quickly and add an extra year or two to their career. The new norm to last longer in the new NHL is to not hit, but I'd hate to see a league when hitting is frowned upon
* I wouldn't mind the players getting an extra day during the week to rest/practice rather than seeing them play 3 or sometimes 4 times per week
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Any fan in the opposing team's arena should not be openly hostile and a dick. Nothing wrong with cheering for their team and standing up for goals, but the purposeful egging on of the home team fans has always been met with anger by me. Vegas fans have been doing this since the first game at Staples in, I believe, December of 2017. I have zero problems with opposing team fans cheering for their team but it is a completely different story when it moves from cheering to antagonizing tens of people in their general vicinity.
As for when they can win the Cup, I'm totally cool with never being the answer at the moment. I don't want the Ducks to ever win another one and I'm totally fine with SJ never winning one. If Vegas does win a Cup, however, I hope it isn't any time soon as, yes, I prefer the winner be a team that has a long history of never winning or hasn't won in a long time. If the Kings can't win, I prefer that the winning fan base consist of people like myself and other Kings fans that "suffered" for 10/20/30/40+ years v. being handed a Cup. Of course, SJ and ANA are excluded because I don't want them to be happy. Due to my interactions with Vegas fans, they are firmly lumped into the SJ/ANA category.
You are correct, however, that there is no firm "timeline" for when it is okay to win. I have my own timeline for it though and it definitely isn't Year 1 or 2.
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Yeah, based on that criteria I have to say St. Louis and Columbus are the sentimental favorites for me this season. I don't care if San Jose ever wins a cup.
bouncesonly
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What is eating shit? Shit like San Jose where they make the playoffs consistently, perform well in the regular season, but cannot finish the last round? Or shit like Edmonton where talent goes to die?
Master Yoda
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Thanks for being a professional, Coach. Another reason I hate Vegas.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I'm loving it. The death of rat hockey for now. Bye bye Nashville, Winnipeg, Calgary. Now if only we can get rid of SJ and VGK in the next two rounds I'll be happy.
Maybe Gaudreau will stop wagging his hand around every time he gets stickchecked.
I've said that quite a bit since then. Like yeah, Jarret Stoll is "replaceable," so is Matt Greene et. al. But it's not always about the best players, just the right ones.
Justin Williams is a great example. All fire, all heart. mediocre-to-good regular seasons for the most part, but even now, would you rather have another guy in your top six towards the end of a series?
God, even the coaches in this series are douche bags, can both teams lose?
Maybe Gaudreau will stop wagging his hand around every time he gets stickchecked.
I've said that quite a bit since then. Like yeah, Jarret Stoll is "replaceable," so is Matt Greene et. al. But it's not always about the best players, just the right ones.
Justin Williams is a great example. All fire, all heart. mediocre-to-good regular seasons for the most part, but even now, would you rather have another guy in your top six towards the end of a series?
God, even the coaches in this series are douche bags, can both teams lose?
Given the fact that he seemed to be glaring at the refs after the handshake line, I'd say he's learned about as much as Kucherov.
TruKingFan
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Sure....lol. this has been discussed ad nauseum moons ago. You're the one with the "snide" remarks about how the Canes have more playoff victories than the Kings the last 5 years. What your point then except to insult the Kings?
TruKingFan
Two-Time Cup Winner
Rooting for the Bruins and the Jerks as well. Although one wonders if Hamilton can remove that lump in his throat and play without fear of being hit.
Yeah, Dougie dodging the Ovi hit that led directly to a goal was pretty f***ing weak.
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Ziggy Stardust
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How is pointing out a fact considered a "snide" remark? Did I personally attack anyone with that comment? It was to point out how a team that has missed the playoffs for nine consecutive years won three playoff games. They're the fifth youngest team in the league, with three players over 30, and their 37-year-old captain is still producing.
And why do you insist on attacking other fans? As if we are sitting here wanting them to fail. Do you realize we're all just as invested and hopeful of the team to turn the page towards success just as you are? I'd prefer to be watching the Kings playing some meaningful hockey heading into May, but we haven't seen that happen in a long time.
Go ahead and shit all over other Kings fans if it makes you feel any better.
kovacro
Uvijek Vjerni
I think if the Canes can stay out of the box, they have a good shot. Caps are eating on the PP.
Canes have been very good 5 v 5 this series versus Washington.
Of course, we know Mr. Game 7 will do something to influence the outcome.
For funzies, I’ll go Jerks, Sharks and Bruins.
Papa Mocha 15
I love the smell of ice in the morning.
Well, it would be nice for Vegas fans to be at least good sports when they lose, but you're right that is doubtful.
It's really about integrity so no, I don't have a deep-seeded hate. I'd rather see a team that's been around longer with some history and development behind it. Frankly, I just don't like the idea of a team waltzing into the league and winning the whole shebang right out of the the gate their first or second year because they didn't develop a team, they poached one with more players available than any prior expansion draft. Now that you got me thinking more on it, maybe the draft was set up unfairly, and maybe that's the real the issue. Maybe the NHL should have had 2 teams enter the league instead of one so that one team could not just poach a solid team. The NHL had the option to do so and decided not to. Instead they got to pick both young and peaking veteran players that other teams developed and then walked into the finals off the collectively group of other teams' work, draft choices, training etc. There was no real development of players in the minors or new upcoming players or work or culture behind the team and suddenly they can win the whole thing setting multiple records for the best regular season on an expansion team in 50 years? Respectfully, I think it takes away from the game when a franchise can mysteriously just pop up and be more competitive because they can take direct advantage of other teams contracts, NMCs, unprotected players, take teams draft picks so not to poach certain players and then ice a younger team designed on the new NHL when other teams are just trying to shed and sign players at much slower rate. No other team can keep up or react that quickly. The new team bypasses all of that and goes into predator mode. They then ice a team on expiring or new cheaper contracts benefiting from the CAP because they don't have any years behind them so it creates unequal footing without doing any legwork or development in the process. There's no sport in that. As a sports fan, I like a more even field. So no time limit on when a team can win, just would like a little more work and effort on the teams part as opposed to some GM just gaming the system. Yes, I know that this is just the way it is in the new NHL but so be it. I still like the game and always will. I just like more even footed competition. That's what makes a sport a sport. It's not all salt or hate. It's wanting things to be more equal and balanced across the board. It's about integrity of the game.
You should read the article below, I found it after I wrote this but I thought it was insightful. You don't have to agree with me, I"m not trying to persuade you to come to the dark side. It's not salt, I just like fair play.
"The $75-million (U.S.) payroll limit meant a lot of NHL teams had to make difficult choices about which players to protect and created far more options for McPhee and company, options they were only too happy to exploit. They also had a team owner in Bill Foley who was happy to spend the money necessary to take full advantage of the cap."
"Yes, that's a fair comment," McPhee said of the salary cap. "The rules were better for us than any team in the past.
How the Vegas Golden Knights became the best NHL expansion team in 50 years
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