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2018-2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs Pt. 2

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DrewforNorris said:
Well, it would be nice for Vegas fans to be at least good sports when they lose, but you're right that is doubtful. :) It's really about integrity so no, I don't have a deep-seeded hate. I'd rather see a team that's been around longer with some history and development behind it. Frankly, I just don't like the idea of a team waltzing into the league and winning the whole shebang right out of the the gate their first or second year because they didn't develop a team, they poached one with more players available than any prior expansion draft. Now that you got me thinking more on it, maybe the draft was set up unfairly, and maybe that's the real the issue. Maybe the NHL should have had 2 teams enter the league instead of one so that one team could not just poach a solid team. The NHL had the option to do so and decided not to. Instead they got to pick both young and peaking veteran players that other teams developed and then walked into the finals off the collectively group of other teams' work, draft choices, training etc. There was no real development of players in the minors or new upcoming players or work or culture behind the team and suddenly they can win the whole thing setting multiple records for the best regular season on an expansion team in 50 years?

Respectfully, I think it takes away from the game when a franchise can mysteriously just pop up and be more competitive because they can take direct advantage of other teams contracts, NMCs, unprotected players, take teams draft picks so not to poach certain players and then ice a younger team designed on the new NHL when other teams are just trying to shed and sign players at much slower rate. No other team can keep up or react that quickly. The new team bypasses all of that and goes into predator mode. They then ice a team on expiring or new cheaper contracts benefiting from the CAP because they don't have any years behind them so it creates unequal footing without doing any legwork or development in the process. There's no sport in that. As a sports fan, I like a more even field. So no time limit on when a team can win, just would like a little more work and effort on the teams part as opposed to some GM just gaming the system. Yes, I know that this is just the way it is in the new NHL but so be it. I still like the game and always will. I just like more even footed competition. That's what makes a sport a sport. It's not all salt or hate. It's wanting things to be more equal and balanced across the board. It's about integrity of the game.

You should read the article below, I found it after I wrote this but I thought it was insightful. You don't have to agree with me, I"m not trying to persuade you to come to the dark side. It's not salt, I just like fair play.

"The $75-million (U.S.) payroll limit meant a lot of NHL teams had to make difficult choices about which players to protect and created far more options for McPhee and company, options they were only too happy to exploit. They also had a team owner in Bill Foley who was happy to spend the money necessary to take full advantage of the cap."

"Yes, that's a fair comment," McPhee said of the salary cap. "The rules were better for us than any team in the past.

How the Vegas Golden Knights became the best NHL expansion team in 50 years
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I’m not particularly interested in debating whether or not the expansion draft was fair.

But I do remember virtually everyone in the hockey world saying the Knights would be terrible after that draft. So I find it pretty hilarious how everyone then changed their tune to, “it was unfair!” That was not at all the narrative at the time.

Ultimately, this is about the Kings, not the Knights. If the Kings were even a semi-competent franchise at the moment, no one here would give a shit about VGK.
 
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SettlementRichie10 said:
I’m not particularly interested in debating whether or not the expansion draft was fair.

But I do remember virtually everyone in the hockey world saying the Knights would be terrible after that draft. So I find it pretty hilarious how everyone then changed their tune to, “it was unfair!” That was not at all the narrative at the time.

Ultimately, this is about the Kings, not the Knights. If the Kings were even a semi-competent franchise at the moment, no one here would give a **** about VGK.
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I don't think the expansion draft rules were unfair per se. It was more of other teams dealt with the expansion draft poorly, e.g., the Panthers. Also, this was the first expansion draft in the post-cap world era, so Vegas had access to talent that normally would not be available but for cap considerations.
 
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Vegas benefited from different rules than expansion teams in the past, but those rules were actually fair for a change. Vegas took what they were given and constructed a competitive roster. Previous expansion teams were hosed from the get-go.
 
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Good start to the Leafs/Bruins game.

The more I get to see if Trevor Moore, the more I like the kid. Lots of energy mixed with skill. Real nice bottom 6 player for the Leafs going forward.
 
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Edit : B's up by 2 now at the end of the 1st.
 
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Jake Gardiner defensive zone turnover leads to Bruins second goal. 2-0 with 2 minutes left in the first.

Andersen’s positioning on the goal wasn’t the best either.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I’m not particularly interested in debating whether or not the expansion draft was fair.

But I do remember virtually everyone in the hockey world saying the Knights would be terrible after that draft. So I find it pretty hilarious how everyone then changed their tune to, “it was unfair!” That was not at all the narrative at the time.

Ultimately, this is about the Kings, not the Knights. If the Kings were even a semi-competent franchise at the moment, no one here would give a **** about VGK.
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They appeared semi-competent in 2018 and I still hated Vegas.

Totally agree about the expansion draft thing, however. I thought they'd suck. Everyone thought they'd suck. It is hindsight bitching about the rules at this point. Only thing I really don't like is how they don't have to expose any players to Seattle but that has zero impact on their results the past two seasons.
 
kovacro said:
I don’t know about being outplayed. Boston started off strong and finished strong. I thought the middle part of the period was fairly even. Leafs had one, maybe two scoring opportunities.
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Yeah, Boston did a good job of limiting the grade A opportunities but they played most of the period in their own end.
 
The meltdown on the leafs board is amazing in an insane way. So crazy.
 
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