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2018-2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs Pt. 2

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Kings man 4 life said:
Wow Bruins get away with murder, that should have been a 5 minute major and an ejection with disciplinary actions for McAvoy.
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Yes they did and it's embarrassing as a fan to think the league still doesn't get it right when the stakes are this high. There was no question it was a shot to the head and they called it that 2 minutes for illegal hit it the head.


This crossed my mind too...Vegas got a five min major and stole the series from the Knights. And the refs took a hit.




McAvoy didn't seem to get what he did wrong. No, leaving your feet and smashing your shoulder into someone's head is not a hockey play.

https://www.tsn.ca/officiating-clouding-playoffs-seemingly-more-than-ever-before-1.1301834

McAvoy stated his case postgame saying it was "a hockey play."
"I thought it was a hockey play," McAvoy said. "I mean I put my shoulder into it. When I hit I do my very best to keep my elbow tucked so I don’t get it out there. I hit with my shoulder. I try to hit with as much power as possible. He’s a bigger guy, it was a hockey play."


This is wrong too...

The NHL declined to make series supervisor Bill McCreary available to the media or even a pool reporter. The NHL’s Situation Room also did not respond to a request for explanation or insight.




 
AzKing said:
CBJ sold their souls for a run this year and they are going to pay dearly for it. Can't say that I blame them for trying but the only salvation for holding on to the guys they held on to and going all in on others is a Cup. Anything less is failure. Not making it to the Conference Finals is a colossal failure.
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Pay for it how???? They would have gotten little to nothing at the deadline for two players who weren't staying. They made the right call. They ran into a hot goalie, it happens. It was a gamble but it was a better risk than playing golf in April. What Jarmo did was give that team a shot at the Cup. That was the right move.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Sharks lose, and their fans start blaming the officiating, even though they've benefited just as much from the reffing. Such buffoons.
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Kings man 4 life said:
Even if the sharks win game 7 that's a lot of milage on an old squad. That's 14 games so far.
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Hey - who do they think they are with all the game 7s, the 2014 Kings?

But then again, they’ll get home ice on all G7s except if they play BOS in SCF.
 
Doughty gets suspended last year for mostly making contact with the body, and McAvoy will get nothing for a clear headshot.

Nice to see how consistent and transparent this league is in eliminating head shots. They can’t even make a clear determination as to what is or isn’t an illegal check.

And just as I type this, lo and behold.
 
deeshamrock said:
For what reason? Goaltending wasn't the problem in the series, Bob was good. The defense was very good, and the team outplayed the Bruins. The difference in game 5 was Panarin's bad plays, turning the puck over 2x that lead to goals and the last two games Raask was the difference. Score was 1-0 into the third, Jackets couldn't score. Last night, by the 11 min mark in 3rd period, Jackets had hit the post 5 times. That's just awful luck.
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disagree with you here dee

Bob was very good most of the series but that first goal in game 5 should have been saved. that goal changed the complexion of the game. you have to make the save when it counts the most.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Sharks lose, and their fans start blaming the officiating, even though they've benefited just as much from the reffing. Such buffoons.
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Can I quote this post but just substitute "Kings" for "Sharks" in our GDTs next year? Sharks fans aren't the only ones that complain about officiating.
 
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lumbergh said:
Can I quote this post but just substitute "Kings" for "Sharks" in our GDTs next year? Sharks fans aren't the only ones that complain about officiating.
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Check the main playoffs thread. Their incessant whining about the officiating is hilarious given how much they’ve benefited from it.

You also have to realize these are the same miserable fans who constantly bring up Dustin Brown being a cheap, dirty player, and still do to this day (check the worst captain to lift the Cup thread). The whining never stops from their end.
 
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deeshamrock said:
For what reason? Goaltending wasn't the problem in the series, Bob was good. The defense was very good, and the team outplayed the Bruins. The difference in game 5 was Panarin's bad plays, turning the puck over 2x that lead to goals and the last two games Raask was the difference. Score was 1-0 into the third, Jackets couldn't score. Last night, by the 11 min mark in 3rd period, Jackets had hit the post 5 times. That's just awful luck.
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I don't disagree with most of your sentiments, but the last sentence needs some perspective. Hitting the post is not awful luck. Hitting the post and not scoring is missing. Close, but still the same as a miss.

Awful luck is missing by a square a bunch of times in Battleship.

The skill level is so high in the league now that goalies don't give you much. For an unscreened, undeflected shot, you have to shoot at spots that are maybe 6"x6" in the corners, over the shoulders, or just over the pads from a distance of 40 feet or less to beat the goalie. The fact that there are around 6 goals a game is a minor miracle and a testament to the skill level in the NHL. I wouldn't be surprised if highly skilled snipers regularly practice banging a puck off the inside of the post to score. It's a skill.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Check the main playoffs thread. Their incessant whining about the officiating is hilarious given how much they’ve benefited from it.

You also have to realize these are the same miserable fans who constantly bring up Dustin Brown being a cheap, dirty player, and still do to this day (check the worst captain to lift the Cup thread). The whining never stops from their end.
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I'm just making the point that every team's fans whine about not getting calls their way. The fans on this board are not immune.
 
deeshamrock said:
Disagree. Canes are the best team left. Boston is riding a hot goalie. Which may work, but Canes are riding a bigger wave and have a better conditioned team. That's a huge difference the longer the playoff run. They have a younger , faster team who is winning the battles late in the game. I don't see the Bruins winning the next series.
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I think the Bruins have had to beat the better teams no matter what the Islanders regular season record was.

Boston may have a hot goalie but I really like their overall team depth. Going to be a lot more difficult for Carolina to go into Boston and pull out wins v. the laugher that is Barclays. They only pulled one road win out against Washington and it took 2 OTs.

Agree on their conditioning though. That could be big for them since Boston is coming off a much tougher series. I just don't have a ton of faith in Carolina's goaltending but we'll see how it shakes out.
 
wow!

imagine boston winning the world series, superbowl AND the stanley cup in 1 calendar year. amazing.. and depressing at the same time.
 
lumbergh said:
Can I quote this post but just substitute "Kings" for "Sharks" in our GDTs next year? Sharks fans aren't the only ones that complain about officiating.
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Over the past 3 postseasons the Sharks have averaged 4.46 powerplays per game which is by far the most in the league, the following teams are the Avs at 3.87 and the Knights at 3.48. The average of all teams with at least 10 games during that stretch is 3.18. It's kind of crazy how much they have benefited from calls recently.
 
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deeshamrock said:
Pay for it how???? They would have gotten little to nothing at the deadline for two players who weren't staying. They made the right call. They ran into a hot goalie, it happens. It was a gamble but it was a better risk than playing golf in April. What Jarmo did was give that team a shot at the Cup. That was the right move.
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It was aggressive but we will see if it is the right move next year and beyond when they lose Panarin and Bob for nothing. I doubt they would have received much for Bob but Panarin would have given them something when you see what they paid for Duchene. They gave up a 2019 1st rounder for Duchene and they better hope that he stays and even if he does, they will forfeit a 2020 1st rounder. Dzingel cost them a 2020 and 2021 2nd rounder which is nothing to sneeze at and he had little impact with only 1 goal.

That's a lot to risk and it will be felt moving forward. At the end of the day, they won a playoff series and that's it.
 
AzKing said:
That's a lot to risk and it will be felt moving forward. At the end of the day, they won a playoff series and that's it.
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Which the franchise has never done before. Ask CBJ fans if it means nothing like seem to imply. PLUS get 3 home games in the 2nd round. And it's not like they got blown out. Just didnt have a lot of puck luck in this game. Yeah it's a high price to pay but even if Panarin and Bobrovsky leaves (and it's not a given yet) they'll have options.
 
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TruKingFan said:
Which the franchise has never done before. Ask CBJ fans if it means nothing like seem to imply. PLUS get 3 home games in the 2nd round. And it's not like they hot blown out. Just didnt have a lot of puck luck in this game. Yeah it's a high price to pay but even if Panarin and Bobrovsky leaves (and it's not a given yet) they'll have options.
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I think Eberle ends up there
 
AzKing said:
It was aggressive but we will see if it is the right move next year and beyond when they lose Panarin and Bob for nothing. I doubt they would have received much for Bob but Panarin would have given them something when you see what they paid for Duchene. They gave up a 2019 1st rounder for Duchene and they better hope that he stays and even if he does, they will forfeit a 2020 1st rounder. Dzingel cost them a 2020 and 2021 2nd rounder which is nothing to sneeze at and he had little impact with only 1 goal.

That's a lot to risk and it will be felt moving forward. At the end of the day, they won a playoff series and that's it.
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I don't think you realize how much that playoff series meant to the fanbase. I don't think I have ever seen a home crowd cheer louder for a team losing in the second round than I heard yesterday.
 
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crassbonanza said:
I don't think you realize how much that playoff series meant to the fanbase. I don't think I have ever seen a home crowd cheer louder for a team losing in the second round than I heard yesterday.
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Perhaps but it matters most if they build on it. If not then it was a costly gamble. They are going to have to sign Duchene and Dzingel now and that is going to take a lot of cap plus replace Panarin and Bob. Can’t sign them all so at the end of the day, they will most likely ice a team that’s missing some of the guys they ended the season with and probably not be able to replace them with comparable talent.

I just think that they gave up a ton of the future for a series win but if that’s enough for their fans then it’s all good.
 
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