Line Combos: 2018-19 Roster Thread - Perry who?

[jeffl97]

These won't happen because we won't sign Maroon, or trade Cogs, but throwing some thoughts out there:

(1) Maroon - Getzlaf - Eaves
Sign Maroon again. I think he's grown as a player since he's last been here, and his familiarity with Getzlaf would be welcome. Ease eaves into the top role, but hopefully he'll get back to where he was. Maroon/Getzlaf are great at board play and Eaves was good at finishing when he was playing. Perry could slot in here at times to limit Eaves workload.

(2) Rakell - Henrique - Kase
Kase reminded me a lot of when Rakell was first starting to break out. He's aggressive, created turnovers, and was creative with the puck. Put them together to hopefully create some chemistry and get that creativity flowing.

(3) Silfverberg - Steel - Perry
I'd like to try Silf at LW. He has a good shot, and playing on his off wing I believe could net him some better opportunities. Steel is eased into the lineup playing with a defensively responsible winger, and Perry who is still the best player on this line, despite declining.

(4) Gibbons - Rowney - ? (Blandisi?)
Who are we kidding, with RC as head coach the 4th line hardly matters. Get someone who doesn't cost us games and has energy to add to the 4th line. I say blandisi because he used to be on the devils, but i don't know if he has any familiarity with Gibbons.

*No Kesler because I don't expect Kesler to play this season.

Trades:

Cogliano - Despite his durability, he only brings quickness and defense, but he's getting older and I expect his speed to decline. He flubs too many opportunities, and Silf is the better player. Silf also wins us a lot of games in the shootout alone. Not sure on the return, but I'm sure we could easily find a suitor.
Ritchie - He takes bad penalties, and I don't see him progressing into the player he was projected to be. Time to flip him for an asset or be a throw in for an upgrade.

Fowler - Montour
Lindholm - Manson
Larsson - Schenn

Don't have much to say about the defense. I hope Montour can take another step this upcoming season. Larsson can be swapped for Welinski/etc. but If he nails it at training camp I'd like to see him get some time.

 

[bsu]

These won't happen because we won't sign Maroon, or trade Cogs, but throwing some thoughts out there:

(1) Maroon - Getzlaf - Eaves
Sign Maroon again. I think he's grown as a player since he's last been here, and his familiarity with Getzlaf would be welcome. Ease eaves into the top role, but hopefully he'll get back to where he was. Maroon/Getzlaf are great at board play and Eaves was good at finishing when he was playing. Perry could slot in here at times to limit Eaves workload.

(2) Rakell - Henrique - Kase
Kase reminded me a lot of when Rakell was first starting to break out. He's aggressive, created turnovers, and was creative with the puck. Put them together to hopefully create some chemistry and get that creativity flowing.

(3) Silfverberg - Steel - Perry
I'd like to try Silf at LW. He has a good shot, and playing on his off wing I believe could net him some better opportunities. Steel is eased into the lineup playing with a defensively responsible winger, and Perry who is still the best player on this line, despite declining.

(4) Gibbons - Rowney - ? (Blandisi?)
Who are we kidding, with RC as head coach the 4th line hardly matters. Get someone who doesn't cost us games and has energy to add to the 4th line. I say blandisi because he used to be on the devils, but i don't know if he has any familiarity with Gibbons.

*No Kesler because I don't expect Kesler to play this season.

Trades:

Cogliano - Despite his durability, he only brings quickness and defense, but he's getting older and I expect his speed to decline. He flubs too many opportunities, and Silf is the better player. Silf also wins us a lot of games in the shootout alone. Not sure on the return, but I'm sure we could easily find a suitor.
Ritchie - He takes bad penalties, and I don't see him progressing into the player he was projected to be. Time to flip him for an asset or be a throw in for an upgrade.

Fowler - Montour
Lindholm - Manson
Larsson - Schenn

Don't have much to say about the defense. I hope Montour can take another step this upcoming season. Larsson can be swapped for Welinski/etc. but If he nails it at training camp I'd like to see him get some time.

You must hate Getzlaf

 

[The Duck Knight]

With the personnel we have currently there is no scenario where Rakell should be split from Getzlaf. If they're together you know for a fact Rakell is good for 30ish goals. The other LW's we have will struggle to combine for 30.

 

[Pennaduck]

I'll pass on Maroon. Not for personal reasons or anything, I would just rather Bob follows through on his thoughts at the end of the season and bring in guys who can play a faster paced style of game.

Duclair I think would be a decent pick up if Bob was looking to add to the left side or replace Ritchie on the roster. I can't really think of any other left-shooting centers or wingers still out there in UFA but I think we could use another left handed shot, especially with speed.

I am certainly not opposed to putting Silf on his off wing and breaking up any semblance of a 'shut down line' this season. Also not opposed to trading him for a 2/3 C or 2LW upgrade.

Eaves shouldn't be penciled in for top line minutes until he shows he can still play at the NHL level. Honestly I'd prefer him in a middle six role now and throw him out on the PP with Getzlaf if you want to try to rekindle that chemistry.

I'd prefer to keep Rakell with Getzlaf but I have a feeling Bob and Randy are gonna try him at center again in lieu of Kesler.

I'm not opposed to trading Ritchie but I still think it is a bit premature. If he comes into camp in the best shape of his life and skating a half step faster he could sleepwalk through a 20-25 season playing with Getz. If he comes in looking like he hasn't taken the offseason seriously then I'll be even more open to moving him down the road.

All in all I think we may see

Ritchie-Getzlaf-Kase
Silf- Rakell- Perry
Cogs-Henrique-Eaves
Gibbons-Rowney-Terry

Hopefully some of our prospects make the jump into big roles or Bob swings a trade or two

 

[jeffl97]

Fair point about Maroon and wanting to get faster, but I still think he would be a decent option. He's never really had the speed, but the last couple of seasons he's played pretty good hockey. He also drops the gloves if needed.

I was also looking at Duclair, and thinking that would be a good option, and right up our alley (reclamation projects). He always seemed to score whenever we played against him, and given easy minutes on the 3rd line, I think we could give him an opportunity to get his confidence back.

As far as Eaves goes, it's anyone's guess how he will play, but I think a good landing spot is on Getzlaf's wing should he be able to prove that he can handle it. If he's relegated early on to 3rd/4th line duties that's not a problem. I'm just really hoping that he can get back up to speed quickly.

Ritchie can sure snipe the puck (sometimes), but I haven't been impressed with most of his play. I would love to be wrong.

I think playing Silf on his off wing would definitely be a good experiment, but I don't really want to trade him unless his price tag is atrocious.

 

[Duck Off]

No idea why people still want to see Silf on Getzlaf’s wing. It’s been tried before and it’s nevef worked. Silfverberg seems to play better by keeping his game simple. That’s not how Getzlaf’s line works.

 

[AngelDuck]

This team has needed to address LW for years. Rakell is good at 1LW and Cogs is great at 3LW. How long have we needed a 2LW and why hasn’t it been solved? That should have been a priority this offseason and instead we get Schenn and Rowney

All our good prospects are either centers or right wingers for the most part too..at least the ones that are close to ready

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

People talking about getting rid of cogs are crazy... he is the kind of player you want around young guys... and 1 of the best Penalty killers in the league. I like to imagine Ritchie comes out this year and can be productive with getzlaf and don't mind the idea of him with getzlaf.

Lets say
Ritchie Getzlaf Eaves
Rakell Steel Kase
Cogs Henrique Silf
Gibbons Kossila Perry

if eaves doesn't come back move perry up, and sub Terry in, this line up is dependent on Ritchie taking the next step.

 

[Duck Off]

These won't happen because we won't sign Maroon, or trade Cogs, but throwing some thoughts out there:

(1) Maroon - Getzlaf - Eaves
Sign Maroon again. I think he's grown as a player since he's last been here, and his familiarity with Getzlaf would be welcome. Ease eaves into the top role, but hopefully he'll get back to where he was. Maroon/Getzlaf are great at board play and Eaves was good at finishing when he was playing. Perry could slot in here at times to limit Eaves workload.

(2) Rakell - Henrique - Kase
Kase reminded me a lot of when Rakell was first starting to break out. He's aggressive, created turnovers, and was creative with the puck. Put them together to hopefully create some chemistry and get that creativity flowing.

(3) Silfverberg - Steel - Perry
I'd like to try Silf at LW. He has a good shot, and playing on his off wing I believe could net him some better opportunities. Steel is eased into the lineup playing with a defensively responsible winger, and Perry who is still the best player on this line, despite declining.

(4) Gibbons - Rowney - ? (Blandisi?)
Who are we kidding, with RC as head coach the 4th line hardly matters. Get someone who doesn't cost us games and has energy to add to the 4th line. I say blandisi because he used to be on the devils, but i don't know if he has any familiarity with Gibbons.

*No Kesler because I don't expect Kesler to play this season.

Trades:

Cogliano - Despite his durability, he only brings quickness and defense, but he's getting older and I expect his speed to decline. He flubs too many opportunities, and Silf is the better player. Silf also wins us a lot of games in the shootout alone. Not sure on the return, but I'm sure we could easily find a suitor.
Ritchie - He takes bad penalties, and I don't see him progressing into the player he was projected to be. Time to flip him for an asset or be a throw in for an upgrade.

Fowler - Montour
Lindholm - Manson
Larsson - Schenn

Don't have much to say about the defense. I hope Montour can take another step this upcoming season. Larsson can be swapped for Welinski/etc. but If he nails it at training camp I'd like to see him get some time.

I'd actually be on board with bringing Maroon back (assuming contract wasn't too bad), but only if we could trade at least one of Perry, Kesler, or Eaves. I like Maroon a lot, but we need quicker players badly. Adding someone like Maroon isn't the way to go right now, even though I like the player.

I think trading Cogliano is a big mistake. Never mind that he's one of our quicker forwards, but he's also a guy that brings it every night which we desperately lack.

Still against trading Ritchie too. Too much invested in him to sell low.

 

[caliamad]

We want to be quicker and sign maroon?

I don’t get that logic.

 

[mightyquack]

Last thing Anaheim needs is a guy who's going to get his nose out of joint when/if he gets demoted off the top line.

 

[Rolo]

Too bad Perron didn't sign the 4Mx4 deal with you guys. He was a solid fit with Getzlaf.

Perron-Getzlaf-Eaves/Perry
Rakell-Steel-Kase
Cogs-Henrique-Silf
Ritchie-Rowney-Perry/Eaves

 

[91Fedorov]

I'm really hoping to see something like this.

Rakell-Getzlaf-Perry
Ritchie-Henrique-Kase
Eaves-Terry-Silf
Cogs-Steel-Comtois

Press box/Injury fill in: Gibbons-Rowney

This of course assumes our rookies look good and we're actually going to run 4 lines and that talk wasn't BS. Here's hoping!

 

[AngelDuck]

I'm really hoping to see something like this.

Rakell-Getzlaf-Perry
Ritchie-Henrique-Kase
Eaves-Terry-Silf
Cogs-Steel-Comtois

Press box/Injury fill in: Gibbons-Rowney

This of course assumes our rookies look good and we're actually going to run 4 lines and that talk wasn't BS. Here's hoping!

Terry is not going to be a center at the NHL level. He's not even a center at the college level.

 

[bsu]

I would have rather have signed a solid player instead of signing 5 guys to 1 million dollar contracts and then let the kids fight for any other spots available.

Good ole dumpster diving.

 

[DavidBL]

I would have rather have signed a solid player instead of signing 5 guys to 1 million dollar contracts and then let the kids fight for any other spots available.

Good ole dumpster diving.

You still have to pay someone to fill those 5 roster spots. As it is those guys aren't making meaningfully more than Guys in ELCs. Its still a 23 man roster we have to fill.

 

[Duck Off]

We want to be quicker and sign maroon?

I don’t get that logic.

Is this a response to my post? If so I specifically said that I would only do it if we moved at least one of Perry or Eaves because he’s not what we currently need.

 

[caliamad]

Is this a response to my post? If so I specifically said that I would only do it if we moved at least one of Perry or Eaves because he’s not what we currently need.

No not you specifically, just the concept, even if he signed for the minimum.. He was a head case and we retained to get him traded. Even if we trade perry/eaves then I’m not sure I like it. Maroon may be slower than both.

 

[Dirk316]

As soft as team is, what is the identity? I can't figure it out. We are slow, soft, injury prone.
We have fans now wanting to trade Ritchie that leaves no toughness as far as forwards.
This may be the first year I lose interest
I don't understand what Murray is doing, Carlyle likes a hard nosed team Murray is assembling the opposite of that 2 years in a row

 

[tomd]

As soft as team is, what is the identity? I can't figure it out. We are slow, soft, injury prone.
We have fans now wanting to trade Ritchie that leaves no toughness as far as forwards.
This may be the first year I lose interest
I don't understand what Murray is doing, Carlyle likes a hard nosed team Murray is assembling the opposite of that 2 years in a row

I don't think it is really as mysterious as you are making it out to be. This is a team in transition. The SC window is closed for this group. Once you understand that, every move that BM is doing (or not doing) this summer makes perfect sense. The next couple of years is going to be very interesting though. Does BM start selling at the next TDL if the Ducks are not in playoff contention? Will Getzlaf be made available for a huge return? Or will they take a conservative approach and let the contracts of Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler run their course before beginning something akin to a rebuild? Either way they choose, I will be shocked if they make the playoffs this year.

 

[Dirk316]

I don't think it is really as mysterious as you are making it out to be. This is a team in transition. The SC window is closed for this group. Once you understand that, every move that BM is doing (or not doing) this summer makes perfect sense. The next couple of years is going to be very interesting though. Does BM start selling at the next TDL if the Ducks are not in playoff contention? Will Getzlaf be made available for a huge return? Or will they take a conservative approach and let the contracts of Getzlaf, Perry, and Kesler run their course before beginning something akin to a rebuild? Either way they choose, I will be shocked if they make the playoffs this year.

I disagree that it is closed I feel with the right small moves they are still a solid contender for at least 2 more years.

 

[Trojans86]

I love that Ritchie is tough but when you are a horrendous player (for nhl standards) that makes whoever you play with worse, I'll sacrifice the toughness for someone that is effective. Next year is a new season though so hopefully he decided to work on his quickness and explosiveness. Otherwise I dont see him playing much longer in the league.

 

[Trojans86]

I love that Ritchie is tough but when you are a horrendous player (for nhl standards) that makes whoever you play with worse, I'll sacrifice the toughness for someone that is effective. Next year is a new season though so hopefully he decided to work on his quickness and explosiveness. Otherwise I dont see him playing much longer in the league.

man I fell for it and responded to a Dirk post. Dirk still thinks Boll is a top 9 skater even though no GM in the league does.

 

[tomd]

I disagree that it is closed I feel with the right small moves they are still a solid contender for at least 2 more years.

There would be nothing "small" about the right moves they'd need to make...especially if Kesler, Perry, and Eaves are not healthy and/or productive. Way too many question marks. Unless you are talking about contending for the 8th playoff position...then I might agree but even that I believe will elude them.

 

[caliamad]

With Gibson are defensive too 4 and getzlaf we have a lot of reasons to be successful. We will need the kids to step a la Winnipeg jets.

Maybe unlikely but it is possible.