Prospect Info: 2018/19 Marlies & Prospects Thread Part V

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MyBudJT

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Why in the hell would we trade Dermott? That is ridiculous.

I'm not suggesting we trade him for the sake of it, but I do think Dubas is going to make some shakeups, and still bring in quality assets into our organization. IF we trade for a quality assets (lets say Pavel Zacha for example), you're going to have to give up some good young players/prospects.... You have to give to get.
 

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Some may not like this, but I think Sandin might make Dermott tradeable... THIS offseason...

I think the Leafs are going to want to keep Muzzin around long-term and Rosen for the next couple...

Rielly-XXXX
Muzzin-Zaitsev
Sandin-Liljegren/Rosen
Borgman, Holl
Only way I trade Dermott is for a comparable RHD around the same age.
 
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MyBudJT

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Dermott is that good that he's worth keeping

Is he though? Sure he moves the puck well, but he won't be a PP guy for us, he won't be a PK guy for us...

Again, I'm not saying trade him for the sake of it... I'm saying Sandin's development can open an opportunity where we can give up a Dermott (to get another very good asset in return). This is a privledge, not a bad thing...
 

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Sandin looks terrific. His poise with the puck, the accurate passing, keeping pucks in at the blue line during the pp, his skating, are all elite. Is he ready for the Leafs in September? Why not let camp decide that. One thing for sure, unless Gardiner signs for a club friendly deal, he’s gone.
 

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Is he though? Sure he moves the puck well, but he won't be a PP guy for us, he won't be a PK guy for us...

Again, I'm not saying trade him for the sake of it... I'm saying Sandin's development can open an opportunity where we can give up a Dermott (to get another very good asset in return). This is a privledge, not a bad thing...
How are you determining any of this? It's all baseless speculation.

Dermott's been a top PK guy at every level, he will certainly be an NHL level penalty killer for the majority of his career. He's always been capable of shutdown assignments. Was also rated one of the best offensive defensemen in the OHL coaches poll before he transitioned to the AHL as the Marlies PP QB and recorded higher PPG ratio than both Sandin and Liljegren.

Babcock doesn't give young defensemen immediate PP opportunity, we saw that with Rielly. Dermott absolutely can run a power play. Trading him is shortsighted Chiarelli esque garbage and sends the wrong message to other home grown projects in the system. He will be a core piece long-term.
 

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How are you determining any of this? It's all baseless speculation.

Dermott's been a top PK guy at every level, he will certainly be an NHL level penalty killer for the majority of his career. He's always been capable of shutdown assignments. Was also rated one of the best offensive defensemen in the OHL coaches poll before he transitioned to the AHL as the Marlies PP QB and recorded higher PPG ratio than both Sandin and Liljegren.

Babcock doesn't give young defensemen immediate PP opportunity, we saw that with Rielly. Dermott absolutely can run a power play. Trading him is shortsighted Chiarelli esque garbage and sends the wrong message to other home grown projects in the system. He will be a core piece long-term.

Yes, its an opinion... I'm not even saying it will be happen. All I'm saying is Sandin's development could allow us to trade Dermott (if he helps our organization).

I don't see Dermott becoming more than a #4 guy TBH. Those guys are replaceable.
 

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Yes, its an opinion... I'm not even saying it will be happen. All I'm saying is Sandin's development could allow us to trade Dermott (if he helps our organization).

I don't see Dermott becoming more than a #4 guy TBH. Those guys are replaceable.

Well if that's the case then you trade zaitsev and replace his spot with dermott. Dermott is allot better, younger, ON A CHEAP CONTRACT still.
I think hes awesome and will continue to improve, hes gonna get points and his game to me looks like hes as comfortable on the right as he is on left. When I ever saw him on the right I did not notice a drop in play whatsoever, hes comfortable and very into the play.
 

MyBudJT

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Well if that's the case then you trade zaitsev and replace his spot with dermott. Dermott is allot better, younger, ON A CHEAP CONTRACT still.
I think hes awesome and will continue to improve, hes gonna get points and his game to me looks like hes as comfortable on the right as he is on left. When I ever saw him on the right I did not notice a drop in play whatsoever, hes comfortable and very into the play.

Dermott doesn't replace Zaitsev. He's not reliable on the PK (and likely won't be for at least a couple years). I also don't think we can trade Zaitsev as easily as some here seem to think.

Again, I'm not suggesting to trade Dermott for the sake of it. I'm saying we now have the option IF the right player becomes available. How is this not clear already?
 

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Dermott doesn't replace Zaitsev. He's not reliable on the PK (and likely won't be for at least a couple years). I also don't think we can trade Zaitsev as easily as some here seem to think.

Again, I'm not suggesting to trade Dermott for the sake of it. I'm saying we now have the option IF the right player becomes available. How is this not clear already?
Ok i hear you but dermott does not replace zaitsev? Not saying dermott is pk specialist but I sure we can find someone, zaitsev is not a good pk guy just because Babcock puts him there doesnt contradict that. Hes usually there for goals against...pk was aweful in general
 

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Yes, its an opinion... I'm not even saying it will be happen. All I'm saying is Sandin's development could allow us to trade Dermott (if he helps our organization).

I don't see Dermott becoming more than a #4 guy TBH. Those guys are replaceable.
Don't sell Dermott short just yet, he had some growing pains this year, but when he's on he's really impressive. I think he's figuring it out, next year could really mature into a player for us. Great IQ, can make a pass, can rush, reads well on D, quick smart passes, I'm still really high on him.
 

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Sandin is excellent at both ends of the ice, its good to see. Hollowell plays a similar game to Sandin, is very intelligent with the puck and doesnt get easily pushed around despite his small size, a year or two in the AHL and he will likely be ready for the NHL. Liljegren deserves a lot of credit also, he is looking much more polished as of late. All in all a really good game.
 

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So in a year when we are going to be extremely tight to the cap and probably losing two top 4 D men in Hainsey and Gardiner we want to trade the only potential top 4 d man who is under 1 mil? Doesnt make any sense...I get the idea that Dermott and Sandin are both lhd puck movers but Sandin isnt ready for top 4 and Dermott is. We need cheap guys to play big roles for us next year.

Zaitsev should definitely be moved considering his contract and inability to move the puck. We need to acquire a top pairing RD who can play PK. Dermott and Rielly should be used on our second pairing PK next year to give them more experience. We need our best D men to play PK. Give them experience on it and they will get good, they are good players.
 
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