Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[CowMix]

Has a sign and trade ever happened in the NHL? Figure that Panarin would sign a long deal, so Columbus would just have dead cap for that entire time? Seems unnecessary for them. Unless Vilardi is a no doubt 1st line talent who will score 30 every year.

If you are not a team that spends to the cap I would think it would be worth it to get an elite young talent. Like all those teams that trade for LTIR contracts for players that will never play again. Not sure if CBJ is one of those teams though.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

I mean, we’ve seen across all pro sports that players returning from a big scandal end up making less money on their first contract.

Maybe he makes that much, but it will be a one year deal. No one is willing to sign Voynov to a high AAV, long term deal given his past.

Maybe but Voynov is a wanted asset. Voynov has talent and teams will pay for talent if they think he's worth the backlash. It's an interesting situation though since he's not a UFA. I imagine though that whichever team trades for him will definitely request to talk to the agent first.

 

[regulate]

Maybe but Voynov is a wanted asset. Voynov has talent and teams will pay for talent if they think he's worth the backlash. It's an interesting situation though since he's not a UFA. I imagine though that whichever team trades for him will definitely request to talk to the agent first.

Some whispers this morning that MTL is interested.

 

[Little Psycho]

Anywhere in the West would be bad. Nashville would be an awful place for him to end up as well. I'd probably prefer San Jose over Nashville.

Nashville would be so nasty with him on their roster. Andy Strickland believes Sharks have the dibs on him.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Nashville would be so nasty with him on their roster. Andy Strickland believes Sharks have the dibs on him.

Speaking of Nashville, I wonder if they trade Rinne this off-season. I guess it might be too late though since the draft already passed but he only has 1 year left on his contract and will be 36 in November.

 

[johnjm22]

I wouldn't even trade Vilardi for Panarin straight up.

 

[BigKing]

HF LA since 2016:

This team needs blue chip prospects and ELC performers. Enough of the big contracts. Dean sucks.

HF LA since last week:

A good player wants to be here? Trade our best prospect and more. Sign everyone. Let's go all-in again even though they haven't shown anything to deserve it, unlike in the past when the last Cup wasn't a distant memory yet.

This is all pretty fun to read. Post-Kovy signing effect. We're back, baby!!!

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Nashville would be so nasty with him on their roster. Andy Strickland believes Sharks have the dibs on him.

What a colossal failure in NYI if Tavares actually skips town. Bring in the big name GM and big name coach only to lose your best player.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

HF LA since 2016:

This team needs blue chip prospects and ELC performers. Enough of the big contracts. Dean sucks.

HF LA since last week:

A good player wants to be here? Trade our best prospect and more. Sign everyone. Let's go all-in again even though they haven't shown anything to deserve it, unlike in the past when the last Cup wasn't a distant memory yet.

This is all pretty fun to read. Post-Kovy signing effect. We're back, baby!!!

Here's the problem......you can't answer this question...What will Vilardi do for LA Kings in 2018-2019?

We CAN answer this question, what will Panarin do for LA Kings in 2018-2019, Panarin has a track record of success...

 

[YP44]

I can't imagine any trade scenario where we land a player like Panarin without giving up Vilardi. He's a top five winger in the game, and he's young, too. Going to command a big return, and he's going to cost like $8 million a year.

But my goodness, if Blake manages to land Panarin WITHOUT giving up Vilardi, he has my full confidence and trust from here on out. Muzzin, Toffoli, JAD? That's probably not enough. And at the same time, it's a lot of good roster depth talent to trade for one player. You only trade Muzzin if Voynov is a lock to return.

Kovalchuk and Panarin were teammates in 14/15 on SKA Petersburg.

Kovalchuk-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Panarin
Iafallo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Vilardi-Amadio
Thompson

Forbort-Doughty
Phaneuf-Voynov
Martinez-Folin
Ladue, Brickley

Quick
Budaj

Lots of Ruskies on that team. Lots of skill, too.

How does Blake Re-sign Doughty and Panarin. Cap would need to go up $8M haha. Would love it. I think lines would look different but no point getting into that.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I wouldn't even trade Vilardi for Panarin straight up.

I would, in a heartbeat, and so would every GM in the NHL if they valued their jobs, that is given the assumption that where he is traded, he will resign.

 

[YP44]

Easily trade Muzzin and Toffoli for Panarin. No questions asked.

depends on what Panarin's next contract looks like,

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

How does Blake Re-sign Doughty and Panarin. Cap would need to go up $8M haha. Would love it. I think lines would look different but no point getting into that.

Trade Martinez, Toffoli, Clifford, Thompson....there ya go.

 

[Butch 19]

I wouldn't even trade Vilardi for Panarin straight up.

hmm, that a tough one. Panarin has already proved he can play.

I would likely do a one for one..... (shoot me now for trading a first rounder!!)

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

I can't imagine any trade scenario where we land a player like Panarin without giving up Vilardi. He's a top five winger in the game, and he's young, too. Going to command a big return, and he's going to cost like $8 million a year.

But my goodness, if Blake manages to land Panarin WITHOUT giving up Vilardi, he has my full confidence and trust from here on out. Muzzin, Toffoli, JAD? That's probably not enough. And at the same time, it's a lot of good roster depth talent to trade for one player. You only trade Muzzin if Voynov is a lock to return.

Kovalchuk and Panarin were teammates in 14/15 on SKA Petersburg.

Kovalchuk-Kopitar-Brown
Pearson-Carter-Panarin
Iafallo-Kempe-Lewis
Clifford-Vilardi-Amadio
Thompson

Forbort-Doughty
Phaneuf-Voynov
Martinez-Folin
Ladue, Brickley

Quick
Budaj

Lots of Ruskies on that team. Lots of skill, too.

Maybe nitpicking, but it’s doubtful Folin re-signs.

 

[BigKing]

Here's the problem......you can't answer this question...What will Vilardi do for LA Kings in 2018-2019?

We CAN answer this question, what will Panarin do for LA Kings in 2018-2019, Panarin has a track record of success...

Lucic also had a track record of success and the team was one year removed from a Cup and just got goal production from Gaborik that we hope Kovy matches next season. Panarin is better than Lucic, obviously, but Vilardi is worth more than the first that went to Boston, plus whatever else would go.

Regardless, it's just an observation. Thought process seems to have flipped around here. I'm not weighing in on the idea of Panarin, just noting that it's been fun to read the board since signing Kovalchuk.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Lucic also had a track record of success and the team was one year removed from a Cup and just got goal production from Gaborik that we hope Kovy matches next season. Panarin is better than Lucic, obviously, but Vilardi is worth more than the first that went to Boston, plus whatever else would go.

Regardless, it's just an observation. Thought process seems to have flipped around here. I'm not weighing in on the idea of Panarin, just noting that it's been fun to read the board since signing Kovalchuk.

The fact you want to compare Lucic to Panarin...speaks volumes....

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

I would, in a heartbeat, and so would every GM in the NHL if they valued their jobs, that is given the assumption that where he is traded, he will resign.

Easily. The only reason why you hesitate for a millisecond about trading Vilardi is that he'll make $7 million less than what Panarin would. We'd be thrilled if Vilardi came within a sniff of Panarin's success.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Easily. The only reason why you hesitate for a millisecond about trading Vilardi is that he'll make $7 million less than what Panarin would. We'd be thrilled if Vilardi came within a sniff of Panarin's success.

Exactly.....that's the only pause one would take.....is Panarin going to resign here...if he says yes....bye Vilardi hope you do great things in Columbus....it's nonsense to not trade an unproven commodity, for a 26 year with great success.....

 

[KINGS17]

HF LA since 2016:

This team needs blue chip prospects and ELC performers. Enough of the big contracts. Dean sucks.

HF LA since last week:

A good player wants to be here? Trade our best prospect and more. Sign everyone. Let's go all-in again even though they haven't shown anything to deserve it, unlike in the past when the last Cup wasn't a distant memory yet.

This is all pretty fun to read. Post-Kovy signing effect. We're back, baby!!!

I don't think the Kings are back, but obviously Luc and Rob don't think they ever went away. In the minds of Kings management the Kings have been contenders from 2014 up until this point. It's obvious they are going to ride this rocket right into the ground, just like Slim Pickens.

The Kings are probably already one of the most top heavy rosters in the NHL, might as well just keep doing it until it implodes. That's the mindset here now.

 

[BigKing]

The fact you want to compare Lucic to Panarin...speaks volumes....

Read my post again.

We are talking trading massive future(s) for a potential rental. A better rental, yes, but also better futures/present talent.

Again, not weighing in on the merits, just saying that a Dean Lombardi special is being promoted when I thought that was the worst possible thing the Kings GM could do.

It's just amusing. That's all.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Some whispers this morning that MTL is interested.

Here's the report from a Montreal reporter.


Going to guess that he may have been involved in the potential Pacioretty trade talks.

 

[lexlavender]

Didn't the Kings kinda do that with Gaborik? No official contract with signed but they talked to his agent about the possibility of him re-signing.


If reports are to believed then there's a decent number of teams interested in him. I think he'll cost at least $4-5 million if not more. He's not coming back to the NHL to make a lot less than what he can make in the KHL.

A decent number of teams don't have his rights. We are the sole holders.

 

[YP44]

Here's the report from a Montreal reporter.


Going to guess that he may have been involved in the potential Pacioretty trade talks.

Voynov and Anderson-Dolan is my guess.

 

[KINGS17]

Lucic also had a track record of success and the team was one year removed from a Cup and just got goal production from Gaborik that we hope Kovy matches next season. Panarin is better than Lucic, obviously, but Vilardi is worth more than the first that went to Boston, plus whatever else would go.

Regardless, it's just an observation. Thought process seems to have flipped around here. I'm not weighing in on the idea of Panarin, just noting that it's been fun to read the board since signing Kovalchuk.

Wow, did you just compare Panarin to Lucic? Then you said Panarin is obviously better. Yeah, you have the problem. LOL