Rumor: 2018-19 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[KINGS17]

I'll take Jordan Bellervie and a 1st from Pittsburgh for Carter. If Pittsburgh wants to dump a little salary, even though they have enough cap space for Carter, we can take Cullen off their hands.

 

[KingsFan7824]

If Stevens is a real good coach, what does that say about the roster Blake has given him when it comes to explaining the last place Kings?

It must mean that the players aren’t motivated or committed to playing the right way or some other bush league excuses. It couldn’t possibly be explained by Blake slacking in his duties and not moving popular vets for turning over the roster.

He’s either bad at evaluating hockey players or bad at handling difficult decisions, neither of which is great for the gm of your team.

It's also possible he can't find a good deal for the popular vets. If we're talking the usual suspects for trade discussion, they haven't played their best hockey since he got the job. I know Blake should've dealt Carter the day he got the job.

Or, Blake hasn't been looking to trade guys away. They're stuck with the core(no GM is trading Doughty if he wants to stay), and want to add to them. At least the Pacioretty deal didn't go through. Imagine this team, with Pacioretty's 1 goal, and whatever they would've given up to get him. So thank you Max for not agreeing to a contract extension.

 

[deeshamrock]

I'll take Jordan Bellervie and a 1st from Pittsburgh for Carter. If Pittsburgh wants to dump a little salary, even though they have enough cap space for Carter, we can take Cullen off their hands.

Actually what the Pens need is a vet defensman, JMFJ has been brutal, Schutlz is out for a few more months and poor Maata is struggling badly. Maybe Blake should see how much Rutherford would give for AMart.

 

[tonellisghost]

Anyone else beard anything re Quick to Philly?

Scouts were talking at the Chiefs game. Probably nothing but you never know.

 

[Bandit]

Actually what the Pens need is a vet defensman, JMFJ has been brutal, Schutlz is out for a few more months and poor Maata is struggling badly. Maybe Blake should see how much Rutherford would give for AMart.

How unusual... I'd rather trade Muzzin at this point, but something's gotta give.

 

[johnjm22]

I am not sure they have the space for Carter.

If the Kings go into rebuild mode and start trading players away, they should be willing to retain on some contracts and/or take on salary dumps. This way they can maximize the return they get.

Just like Boston retained on Lucic when they dumped him on LA. That's how they were able to get 1St and two decent prospects.

Carter with a 2.6M cap hit suddenly becomes much more valuable.

Kings can retain on 3 contracts I believe.

Boston needs to get rid of Backes. If the Kings take his contract off their hands, they'll get a lot more value in a trade.

 

[Reaper45]

Anyone else beard anything re Quick to Philly?

Scouts were talking at the Chiefs game. Probably nothing but you never know.

I'd hate to see it because I love Quick but they'd finally have a goalie in that goalie graveyard. Too little too late?

 

[KingsFan7824]

If the Kings go into rebuild mode and start trading players away, they should be willing to retain on some contracts and/or take on salary dumps. This way they can maximize the return they get.

Just like Boston retained on Lucic when they dumped him on LA. That's how they were able to get 1St and two decent prospects.

Carter with a 2.6M cap hit suddenly becomes much more valuable.

Kings can retain on 3 contracts I believe.

Boston needs to get rid of Backes. If the Kings take his contract off their hands, they'll get a lot more value in a trade.

Lucic had a year left on his deal. That's the only reason they retained half. You're thinking the Kings will retain 50% on Carter for the next 3 years? And take Backes(who has a NMC) at 100% on top of that? For what? A low 1st? Not to mention how are the Kings adding $3m in cap space? I guess they can make other moves before this trade, or do more in this Boston trade somehow, but it's going to get complicated.

I think some of these trade ideas being thrown around are as unrealistic as Robitaille saying the Kings are contenders.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I'd hate to see it because I love Quick but they'd finally have a goalie in that goalie graveyard. Too little too late?

Quick for Elliot and Gudas

 

[KingsFan7824]

Anyone else beard anything re Quick to Philly?

Scouts were talking at the Chiefs game. Probably nothing but you never know.

You'd have to take either Elliott or Neuvirth back, because the Flyers won't pay that much for 3 goalies. Since they're both UFA's, the Flyers will have to account for Quick's cap hit until 2023, while the Kings clear all that for themselves. How much more do you think they'll get beyond the cleared cap space after this season?

 

[Matt13]

Kings can retain on 3 contracts I believe.

Boston needs to get rid of Backes. If the Kings take his contract off their hands, they'll get a lot more value in a trade.

What could Boston offer that would make Backes 3 x 6.0 at all attractive?

 

[johnjm22]

Lucic had a year left on his deal. That's the only reason they retained half.

The reason they retained half is so the deal would work for LA and so they could get more in return. If it was more than one year, they would have wanted more in return.

You're thinking the Kings will retain 50% on Carter for the next 3 years?

No, but I think they should if they're able to get a good return because of it.

And take Backes(who has a NMC) at 100% on top of that? For what? A low 1st? Not to mention how are the Kings adding $3m in cap space?

You're making up the worst possible scenario. Obviously the Kings shouldn't trade Carter with retention and take on Backes just to get a low first.

I was thinking "or" in that scenario. Not "and".

I think some of these trade ideas being thrown around are as unrealistic as Robitaille saying the Kings are contenders.

If King's management thought they were contenders, then why didn't they make a move at the deadline last year? Actions speak louder than words.

I don't know if Luc believes L.A. is a contender or not, but SAYING the Kings are contenders is the right thing to do. It's called marketing.

 

[Bandit]

Quick for Elliot and Gudas

God no.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Let the reality of this sink in::::::::::

Over a 10-year time span there have been 25 teams that have won just two of their first nine games.
Only three ended up making the playoffs (2015-16 Ducks, 2013-14 Flyers, 2012-13 Capitals).
From NBCSN.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Let the reality of this sink in::::::::::

Over a 10-year time span there have been 25 teams that have won just two of their first nine games.
Only three ended up making the playoffs (2015-16 Ducks, 2013-14 Flyers, 2012-13 Capitals).
From NBCSN.

To make things worse, Kings are pretty much the worst team scoring goals in the NHL.

 

[Sol]

I'd like to see Quick and Carter get traded just to show the team no one is save, shed some long contracts, and move on from dying stars.

 

[SherVaughn30]

I'd like to see Quick and Carter get traded just to show the team no one is save, shed some long contracts, and move on from dying stars.

Quick just came back from a LBI injury, so his trade value is not gonna be as good. But if the Kings were to trade him, I wonder if the Canes would be interested.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Quick just came back from a LBI injury, so his trade value is not gonna be as good. But if the Kings were to trade him, I wonder if the Canes would be interested.

I’d move Quick for Luongo and hope that Bobby Lu retired early and trigger the cap recapture penalty on the nucks just when they should be competitive again.

 

[KingsFan7824]

The reason they retained half is so the deal would work for LA and so they could get more in return. If it was more than one year, they would have wanted more in return.

I would think it's unlikely they retain 50% for more than 1 year. Kopitar's raise for 16-17 was Lucic's 50% cap hit. Lombardi probably couldn't have gotten him for 2 years at 50%.

No, but I think they should if they're able to get a good return because of it.

I would say that might be a lot to ask.

You're making up the worst possible scenario. Obviously the Kings shouldn't trade Carter with retention and take on Backes just to get a low first.

I was thinking "or" in that scenario. Not "and".

Fair enough, but you did say and/or. Still, taking Backes at 100% is tough to do because they don't have the space. Boston retained on Beleskey, and gave the Rangers Spooner and a late 1st, but Nash was a playoff rental. Spooner isn't doing much, and he's going to be 27 this year. The 1st, who knows what that turns into. Not much going back for the Rangers.

If King's management thought they were contenders, then why didn't they make a move at the deadline last year? Actions speak louder than words.

I don't know if Luc believes L.A. is a contender or not, but SAYING the Kings are contenders is the right thing to do. It's called marketing.

I'll agree with that. I believe the Kings are mostly rebuilding slowly, without full on tanking, because they can't properly tank with all the old contracts. Too much term.

I'd like to see Quick and Carter get traded just to show the team no one is save, shed some long contracts, and move on from dying stars.

The long contract and dying star part of that is what makes it tough to trade them. If they were UFA's at the end of the year, easy. They both have years left on their deals, and in a hard cap world, where other teams have their own RFA's to sign, whether it's this year, next year, 2 years from now, etc, and their own large contracts to their own vets, it makes it that much more complicated to try and do. Trades for the sake of trades, or sending a message, don't tend to happen anymore. Guys with long contracts tend to get traded for other guys with long contracts. The cap hangs over every deal.

 

[SherVaughn30]

I’d move Quick for Luongo and hope that Bobby Lu retired early and trigger the cap recapture penalty on the nucks just when they should be competitive again.

Quick to the Panthers, would make some sense as they have good forward prospects.

 

[Little Psycho]

Don't know if I want to click on the article

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Quick just came back from a LBI injury, so his trade value is not gonna be as good. But if the Kings were to trade him, I wonder if the Canes would be interested.

I posted in the Summer about getting young, talented players that were not quite blossoming, or not reaching expectations. Racoon J chimed in and said Elias Lindholm possibly fit that and
he and Hanafin were dealt for Dougie Hamilton and Michael Ferland....turns out Lindholm has 6 goals in 9 games for the Flames and poised to now have his breakout year. Hamilton has 3 assists in Carolina, but Ferland is #2 scorer, with 6 goals in 9 games for the Canes...so sometimes, trades can work well for both teams. Ferland may end up being a very good player. And Lindholm couldn't score more than 15 goals and on his way to perhaps 30.

Interesting..if the Canes had Quick and he comes back to himself and healthy, the Canes could be formidable...Justin Williams leading the team..Sebastian Aho with 14 pts in 9 games...and #2 overall Svechnikov (and Martin Necas making the team now) and several other good young players - Teravainen. Not sure who the Kings would target, though. Quick + Muzzin for Justin Faulk + prospect + one of their goalies? Or wonder if they could get Viktor Rask? He's out with the cutting 2 fingers in the kitchen surgery...not sure his time table, but he's a good young player.

 

[Bandit]

Don't know if I want to click on the article

Nothing that hasn't been said here already.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I posted in the Summer about getting young, talented players that were not quite blossoming, or not reaching expectations. Racoon J chimed in and said Elias Lindholm possibly fit that and
he and Hanafin were dealt for Dougie Hamilton and Michael Ferland....turns out Lindholm has 6 goals in 9 games for the Flames and poised to now have his breakout year. Hamilton has 3 assists in Carolina, but Ferland is #2 scorer, with 6 goals in 9 games for the Canes...so sometimes, trades can work well for both teams. Ferland may end up being a very good player. And Lindholm couldn't score more than 15 goals and on his way to perhaps 30.

Interesting..if the Canes had Quick and he comes back to himself and healthy, the Canes could be formidable...Justin Williams leading the team..Sebastian Aho with 14 pts in 9 games...and #2 overall Svechnikov (and Martin Necas making the team now) and several other good young players - Teravainen. Not sure who the Kings would target, though. Quick + Muzzin for Justin Faulk + prospect + one of their goalies? Or wonder if they could get Viktor Rask? He's out with the cutting 2 fingers in the kitchen surgery...not sure his time table, but he's a good young player.

If Quick goes to CAR, you have to expect Scott Darling to be coming back here.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Let the reality of this sink in::::::::::

Over a 10-year time span there have been 25 teams that have won just two of their first nine games.
Only three ended up making the playoffs (2015-16 Ducks, 2013-14 Flyers, 2012-13 Capitals).
From NBCSN.

Take this, over a ten year ten span, there have been 6 different cup Winners, LA won 2 of them.