News Article: 2017 Training Camp & Pre-Season Discussion
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The narrative was always that he'd return to something close to his old form. I'd be shocked if the prognosis from the doctors wasn't key in that deal.
The only thing that gives me some hope with AV Re: Staal is that he never once said that G or Boyle's jobs were in jeopardy. I expect Staal to be dressed on opening night, but the verbiage was definitely different in this case (I expect them to break camp with 8 D too.)
He still does a good job with this time to time...
The problem is when he does succeed, he takes 29032093802302932032 years to do anything with the puck and usually gets it taken away and when he does make a play with the puck, its almost always a bad one.
He still does a good job with this time to time...
The problem is when he does succeed, he takes 29032093802302932032 years to do anything with the puck and usually gets it taken away and when he does make a play with the puck, its almost always a bad one.
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I think almost everyone is rooting for him because he has been a good Ranger. Last season a lot of people said he would bounce back because he had a healthy offseason. I had my doubts then and I do now but this is one case I would really like to be wrong. In his prime he was a darn good player. 1st pairing borderline all star player at time. Its a shame how much of a toll the game can take on guys bodies.
When bereglazovs best comparable is current Marc Staal you can probably figure he's going to be on the outside looking in.
De Angelo is wearing 77 for the NYR. Spoke to Esposito about it. Traded for a beloved ranger. Flashy offensive righty dman with NHL games under his belt and a former first round pick. He's going to be on this team.
Holden is your 7th. He'll play for staal here and there and with AV as coach anytime DeAngelo makes a mistake Holden will come in for him.
Kampfer is the 8th and first call up.
Bereglazov prob will be back coasting for a top KHL team on easy street
De Angelo is wearing 77 for the NYR. Spoke to Esposito about it. Traded for a beloved ranger. Flashy offensive righty dman with NHL games under his belt and a former first round pick. He's going to be on this team.
Holden is your 7th. He'll play for staal here and there and with AV as coach anytime DeAngelo makes a mistake Holden will come in for him.
Kampfer is the 8th and first call up.
Bereglazov prob will be back coasting for a top KHL team on easy street
and guys like Girardi and Staal keep saying "I finally had the chance to get healthy this summer!" and give us hope but then they still struggle
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If he does turn out to be just current Marc Staal what's the big deal. He'll make a fraction of what Staal actually makes and will be deployed like current Marc Staal should be deployed. Hell it might even make management eager to buyout the real Staal during the next offseason instead of keeping him around.
Can we at least see what the kid is capable of before you ship off a free asset back to the KHL.
Even if Bear Gloves turns out to be as bad as K27 keeps saying that he will be, Staal should be the 7th with Holden playing over him.
Irishguy42
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If everyone means the Rangers then sure. I don't know why the Leafs would do that.
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If AB and MS are in fact the same player, then they'll just buy out Staal and use BG next season to replace him
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Yeah, I think as long as DeAngelo can prove that he is competent defensively in a 3rd pair role, AV will favor using him over a different left handed shot. Remember, last year our only two RHD were Klein and Girardi. AV likes having LH-RH pairings. He'll probably already have one LH-LH pair in Skjei and Smith, I would bet he'll be favoring DeAngelo to win that 3RD spot.
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He looked a little nervous/caffeinated during the interview, but it seems to me in his interviews as GM he is very honest and up front about his plans, which is a nice change of pace.
Irishguy42
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I feel like Gorton always looks like this. Or at least...90% of the time.
TheTakedown
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Sometimes I feel like he looks like he's about to take a dump or has a rod in his ass.
But then he talks and he's always so calm
Yeah, OTOH where is Girardi now?
When it comes to these things -- the wheels tend to spin a little slower than we wish. AV putting Staal on notice is of course a big step towards something. Even if we might get there years after many posters here would have wanted it -- it's still a step forward so to speak.
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For those who watched Staal's interview, man did that guy say everything wrong IMO.
I wanted to hear him say stuff like he was disappointed in his season and did a lot video tape review to identify what parts of his game changed and could change and got to work early and is coming to camp in the best shape of his career. "That's his opinion"??? AV literally controls your ice time. His opinion matters 1000% I hope "feeling healthy" is enough for Marc to play well. His overall demenor was very lackadaisical. He's got his contract guaranteed so he doesn't need to put in any effort. As other's pointed out, he just doesn't have the speed to keep up with today's NHL. I think it was in a Tuuka Rask piece on ESPN where he said that smaller goalie equipment and speed are the two biggest changes in the last 10 years. I really really hope I'm wrong because even if he is playing 7th D, I want him to be a decent 7D instead of an expensive paper weight riding pine.
I wanted to hear him say stuff like he was disappointed in his season and did a lot video tape review to identify what parts of his game changed and could change and got to work early and is coming to camp in the best shape of his career. "That's his opinion"??? AV literally controls your ice time. His opinion matters 1000% I hope "feeling healthy" is enough for Marc to play well. His overall demenor was very lackadaisical. He's got his contract guaranteed so he doesn't need to put in any effort. As other's pointed out, he just doesn't have the speed to keep up with today's NHL. I think it was in a Tuuka Rask piece on ESPN where he said that smaller goalie equipment and speed are the two biggest changes in the last 10 years. I really really hope I'm wrong because even if he is playing 7th D, I want him to be a decent 7D instead of an expensive paper weight riding pine.
Kreider, Zib,Zuc....Nash, Miller, Buch.... Vesey, Hayes, Grabner....x,DD,x.....Fast when healthy
So that's Puempel and likely Desjardin unless a kid makes it
Need another F still in my mind
So that's Puempel and likely Desjardin unless a kid makes it
Need another F still in my mind
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I wonder if we could package Staal with a decent winger in exchange for Duchene or RNH. Then we can ease our C worries and move #10 back to the wing.
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