2017 NHL Draft Discussion

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'd say Colorado got boned. Worst team in the league by far, and they drop to 4. That's a nice kick in the nuts to them and their fans.

This also feels like another Yakupov draft year too, nobody is getting a McDavid or Matthews.

Feels like Bettman winking at sakic and saying "**** you, fix yourself."

 

[kingsfan28]

Brown isn't that bad. Solid 3rd liner. Perfect captain for them. He just sucks for the Kings. I didn't say Gaborik lol

At least we can count on Brown being on the ice for more than 1/2 a season attempting to earn his money. Gaborik spends most of his time on the IR, and guess what, he's doing it again starting next season.

Lombardi took over when we were a black hole draft team, he left that way too.
Number 11, here we come.

 

[ru4reals]

Feels like Bettman winking at sakic and saying "**** you, fix yourself."

Still shaking my head at Edmonton all those years with the first overall and finally they get the savior they needed. Not anymore Colorado can't stink up the joint no more. Although if the Oilers were in this years lottery I'd bet they win it again.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

ok tsn has Martin Necas 10th Elias Pettersson 11 th and Timothy Liljegren 12th I say we pick Liljegren He was the best defense man rated coming into this year. I believe he was 3rd prospect at the start of the year. Had mono this year I think hes close to nhl ready I feel he could be in the nhl by feb with a short ahl stint. Pettersson is to small 157 pounds i ve seen him listed as. With Drew being ufa soon a top pairing right handed defense man in the lineup would help ease the pain of having him leave.(not saying he will) or better yet have drew mentor would be awesome.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I also wonder if the dallas fans still want to trade there first ,Riley Tufte and Philippe Desrosiers for Muzzin as they did before the lotto lmao

 

[Bandit]

Why does everyone assume Vegas wants the league's trash? Vegas is in a perfect situation to succeed.

In 4 or 5 years maybe.

 

[Legionnaire]

Liljegren. I'm really hoping we pick Liljegren.

 

[LAKings88]

Just pick BPA. Will be years before they play or really contribute. If LA takes a forward, I like Necas.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

ok tsn has Martin Necas 10th Elias Pettersson 11 th and Timothy Liljegren 12th I say we pick Liljegren He was the best defense man rated coming into this year. I believe he was 3rd prospect at the start of the year. Had mono this year I think hes close to nhl ready I feel he could be in the nhl by feb with a short ahl stint. Pettersson is to small 157 pounds i ve seen him listed as. With Drew being ufa soon a top pairing right handed defense man in the lineup would help ease the pain of having him leave.(not saying he will) or better yet have drew mentor would be awesome.

Yeah Pettersson is suuuuuper skilled but such a bean pole it's crazy. Someone posted highlights of him in his prospect thread and people just breathing his direction would force him into a yard sale. Longer term prospect imo.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Yeah Pettersson is suuuuuper skilled but such a bean pole it's crazy. Someone posted highlights of him in his prospect thread and people just breathing his direction would force him into a yard sale. Longer term prospect imo.

Do we want to wait that long to have him fill out ? I would rather get whoever we draft in our lineup asap

 

[Vamos Rafa]

We had 3 straight years of drafting 11th overall from 2004 to 2006. The Oilers also had 3 straight years of the same draft position from 2010 to 2012...only 10 drafts earlier.

 

[kingsfan28]

Do we want to wait that long to have him fill out ? I would rather get whoever we draft in our lineup asap

I don't think there's anyone in this years draft who's NHL ready.

 

[kingsfan28]

I just saw a shot of Joe Sakic during the draft lottery. He looked like he was about to cry when he saw he was not getting the top pick.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I don't think there's anyone in this years draft who's NHL ready.

i think there a few close and some within a year

 

[Reclamation Project]

In 4 or 5 years maybe.

And every ****** move pushes it back further. I'm expecting them to contend in 7 years. They won't do any team favors like far too many on this site think they will. Foley didn't do all this work to become the NHL's dumping grounds.

 

[King'sPawn]

Yeah Pettersson is suuuuuper skilled but such a bean pole it's crazy. Someone posted highlights of him in his prospect thread and people just breathing his direction would force him into a yard sale. Longer term prospect imo.

Simmonds was (and is) a beanpole. Sure he needs to gain weight, but I wouldn't be worried.

 

[Pandaman11]

Haha! Not only did we not win one of the three lotteries, we even fall back a spot because the 13th (!) placed team has to win one. Just can't get a break.

Anyway, I wish we would've had 11th in 2015 or 16. The 17 draft doesn't convince me (yet).

Who should we take? And would you go for BPA or positional need?

 

[eleventy]

Haha! Not only did we not win one of the three lotteries, we even fall back a spot because the 13th (!) placed team has to win one. Just can't get a break.

Anyway, I wish we would've had 11th in 2015 or 16. The 17 draft doesn't convince me (yet).

Who should we take? And would you go for BPA or positional need?

BPA. Always.

 

[King'sPawn]

Haha! Not only did we not win one of the three lotteries, we even fall back a spot because the 13th (!) placed team has to win one. Just can't get a break.

Anyway, I wish we would've had 11th in 2015 or 16. The 17 draft doesn't convince me (yet).

Who should we take? And would you go for BPA or positional need?

Dropping down one spot was the second most likely scenario, and at 26% chance of that happening... that's pretty high.

They should always draft BPA.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Simmonds was (and is) a beanpole. Sure he needs to gain weight, but I wouldn't be worried.

Hey don't get me wrong, I WANT this guy if he falls because people overlook him. I agree that I wouldn't skip him for it, only that he's probably not NHL ready. And if he's a faller, the legit criticism is his softness--not in terms of "Kings hockey" but he's always cheating to make plays and won't take contact to get the puck. That's problematic. But again, I'm fairly certain he'll sort that out if he wants to play. 6'2" 160lbs is...something.

Here's the post from his prospect thread that made me go look at some of his footage. I came away equally impressed with the skill (how could THIS guy drop?!?) and disgusted (how could this guy compete so little?!?) at the footage. I think this post represents some of the worst though, i.e. it's not 'typical,' but it happens enough that you have to think:

I decided to re-examine Elias Pettersson's performance at the 2017 World Juniors. I came away unimpressed. I will very likely do a scouting package to capture the state of his game as well as highlight some of his deficiencies. I would not consider him a candidate to be selected in the Top 5.

As expected for a player of his weight class, he doesn't engage physically and is knocked off of the puck easily. His first step requires work, as he isn't particularly explosive. In these games, he played wing. Throughout the matches, he tended to wait for an outlet pass and hung up pretty high in his own zone while his team was defending; during board battles, he relied solely on his ability to fish for the puck and kept at least an arm length's distance from the opposing players along the boards. He never pressed up against the opposition or tried to engage with his body.

When he did receive the puck, he demonstrated poise and was able to make skilled passes or make a move with the puck; however, he struggled to maneuver around his opponents as once they pushed against him, he lost his balance. Defensively, he has a tendency to cheat a little bit, and he doesn't use his body to impede the opposition. At this point in time, he is an entirely finesse player. He doesn't possess much balance on his skates.

For example, here he gets thrashed by 6'1'', 172 lbs defenceman Jake Bean.

Here, he takes a tumble against 6'2'', 186 lbs defenceman Noah Juulsen.

Against Team Denmark:

*on the following play, he does not step on any sticks, but instead buckles as he tries to guard the puck.

Here's one example of him fishing and then cheating on the same shift:

There was, however, one display of high-end skill in the game against Team Denmark:

He doesn't have the skating ability to compensate for his lack of strength and balance. He needs to become stronger to play in the NHL.

A few have pegged him as a Top 5 pick. He has excellent skill, but for the reasons that I have given, he will likely find himself being drafted with a late single-digit or early-teen selection. There is some inherent risk to this selection. That said, quite a few of the players in this draft class are risky in different ways.

But hey, like the poster says, pretty much every pick is flawed in some way!

I just saw a shot of Joe Sakic during the draft lottery. He looked like he was about to cry when he saw he was not getting the top pick.

Yeah. I don't particularly hate Sakic or the Avs. Hell, I have a signed Nordiques Sakic Jersey! But honestly, I thought it was kind of funny. No one is going to save you but yourself, Joe. Sort it the **** out.

 

[CanadianKingsFan14]

Liljegren. I'm really hoping we pick Liljegren.

That would be awesome if we drafted him but I think he'll be gone by the time we pick at 11.
He's an elite skater and they compare him to Erik Karlsson.

 

[damacles1156]

Nolan Patrick
Nico Hischier

They are the only NHL ready prospects, most likely everyone else should head back to JR hockey or (respective)Lower leagues.

 

[AnThGrt]

Haha! Not only did we not win one of the three lotteries, we even fall back a spot because the 13th (!) placed team has to win one. Just can't get a break.

Anyway, I wish we would've had 11th in 2015 or 16. The 17 draft doesn't convince me (yet).

Who should we take? And would you go for BPA or positional need?

2015 picks #11 - 15: Crouse, Guryanov, Zboril, DeBruk, Shenyshyn
2016 picks #11 - 15: Brown, McCleod, Bean, McAvoy, Kunin

Who in there outside of McAvoy can you say looks super amazing or better than Necas, Tippett, Pettersson, Liljegren, Tolvanen, Glass, Rasmussen, Suzuki, Veselainen, Glass, Mittlestadt, Vliardi, etc all guys ranked at #11 or lower in various top scouting rankings? The latter three usually are higher, but various have them around our spot if not lower and the others are regularly at 11 or lower. I'm happy we got #11 this draft and much prefer it than '15 or '16. There is a fair chance we walk with the best player in this draft something that can't be said for those other two. Also I talk most of the names I listed over the ten names listed around our pick the past two seasons. People make the mistake that because there is no Matthews, Laine, McDavid, Eichel, etc there is no top or good talent.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The Capitals did draft Filip Forsberg at #11 in 2012, and that's a draft that this year's class has been compared to.

 

[damacles1156]

Liljegren. will most likely be gone at 11, someone will take a chance on him early.

I'd take Callan Foote. The Kings still haven't replaced Mitchell or Slava at 3/4. Really need a solid, high upside Defender that can play sooner rather than later.

Then trade either Muzzin/A-Mart/Gravel/LaDue get some immediate forward help.

Callam Foote, Has the body of a man already. I think he can step into the NHL within a year. His Hockey IQ is also pretty high for a 18 year old.