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Sharp Shooting Neely

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Unfortuantely was not able to watch the semi. Appears they Dogs were able to hang in against them for 2 periods. Penalty trouble a plenty was playing right into the Otters hands. Overall a very disappointing tournament for the Q and Dud teams. The two teams that remain standing and fully deserving of their spot in the finals. Does Windsor complete the dream hometown run or does Erie get payback for the round robin loss? All the makings of a terrific final. May the best team win!
 

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Zboril is very physical. If he hits his projection, I see a Dion Phaneuf type.

Lot of skills. He will be trained in an excellent organization for defenseman

Very excited to see that Providence defense next year - reupped my mini package and expect to see 10-12 games live next season (when Manchester & Lowell were around i could see a lot more)

Can't even imagine what the D will look like
 

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Lot of skills. He will be trained in an excellent organization for defenseman

Very excited to see that Providence defense next year - reupped my mini package and expect to see 10-12 games live next season (when Manchester & Lowell were around i could see a lot more)

Can't even imagine what the D will look like

pretty deep with left shots. zboril, lauzon, grizzy, o'gara, johansson. maybe dr. cross is back as well. figure o'gara has a good shot at the NHL though.
 

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Zboril is very physical. If he hits his projection, I see a Dion Phaneuf type.

Not the player Phaneuf was his first few seasons in the league, but yeah I could see something closer to the player Phaneuf had been the last 8 years. Talented, physical, absolutely frustrating at times.
 

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I see more Kasparaitis than Phaneuf
The more I see him, the more Alexei Emelin comes to mind as a comparable. I like the Kasparaitis comparison, though.

He's got more skills than Emelin, but at least at this point Zboril's nowhere near as steady. You hope the inconsistencies in his game and the decision-making improve with time and experience.
 

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Reminds me of a better skating Francois Beauchemin. Gritty, some o skills...hope he turns out to be the same kind of leader. You have to hope that the tool box catches up to the tools.
 

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The more I see him, the more Alexei Emelin comes to mind as a comparable. I like the Kasparaitis comparison, though.

He's got more skills than Emelin, but at least at this point Zboril's nowhere near as steady. You hope the inconsistencies in his game and the decision-making improve with time and experience.

massive difference between Zboril and Emelin IMO, most obvious, Zboril won`t hit someone (legally or otherwise) then turtle, skate fast to the bench or hide behind the boys wearing the zebra shirts

He`s far more mobile than Emelin, much better first pass, more likely to play some offensive role for his team

Kasparaitis might not even be the best comp out there (I`m not great at that stuff) but from the blueline in, his game reminds me alot of him, takes crud from nobody but Zboril will be a work in progress as far as being more disciplined and being more consistent on a shift by shift basis. I suspect he`ll need a year, maybe 2 in Providence.
 

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Congratulations to Rocky Thompson and the Windsor Spitfires for winning the 2017 Memorial Cup 4-3 over the Erie Otters.

...well done boys!
 

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Dipietro looks like he's going to be a quality starter for someone. Good on Windsor for having focus after 40 something days off. Erie had tons of talent, suspect defense though.
Anyway, everyone enjoy their Memorial Day
 

bbfan419

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Yeah not a fan of a team winning and they only got in because they were the host. It should be whatever league is hosting that year sends the two teams from the finals. Erie was clearly the best team there, except for their goaltending Timpano is average to slightly above average, where Dipietro is very good.
 

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A dream tournament for Windsor. Deserving of the bragging rights. Unfortunate that the conversation will include a debate on if they should have even been there. The team did not make the rules they simply capitalized on the opportunity. The same debate is playing out in some circles with the Preds now being in the NHL final.

Surprised Diepetro was not named MVP. Not to take anything away from Strome but goaltending was huge for Windsor and he answered the call in a big way. Hard to imagine them being crowned champs without his outstanding performance.

OHL dominated the other two league representatives in this years event. Did not expect such a wide margin of disparity going into the tournament.
 

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So windsor gets to call themselves champions. Ok then. What a format.

Seriously bizarre.

Yeah not a fan of a team winning and they only got in because they were the host. It should be whatever league is hosting that year sends the two teams from the finals. Erie was clearly the best team there, except for their goaltending Timpano is average to slightly above average, where Dipietro is very good.

I understand the sentiment, used to share it, but if anything, Windsor (and the hosts that have won before them) should validate the host format.

And I'm not sure how you define "clearly the best team", but Windsor beat Erie, TWICE. I thought they were the better team in the first game and regarding last night, last time I checked the goalie is part of the team.

As we used to say back in my day when kids from the losing team told us they were better...

Scoreboard.
 

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You can't prepare for this tournament in a week. It's a year long battle to prepare for it. There's a lot of stuff involving the military going on all week - yes that's what the Memorial Cup is all about.

You can't ask a league champion to prepare for it in just days following a championship. And Neutral sites don't work. They've tried it. Like it or not, the CHL is a business that needs revenue to survive.

The CHL does a fine job in making sure the team that gets to host is competitive and has a chance to win. This isn't Korea or China hosting Olympic Hockey.

Erie, Saint John and Seattle are still champions. They just aren't Memorial Cup Champions.
 

DKH

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You can't prepare for this tournament in a week. It's a year long battle to prepare for it. There's a lot of stuff involving the military going on all week - yes that's what the Memorial Cup is all about.

You can't ask a league champion to prepare for it in just days following a championship. And Neutral sites don't work. They've tried it. Like it or not, the CHL is a business that needs revenue to survive.

The CHL does a fine job in making sure the team that gets to host is competitive and has a chance to win. This isn't Korea or China hosting Olympic Hockey.

Erie, Saint John and Seattle are still champions. They just aren't Memorial Cup Champions.

Did you have a good time? Great game and I get your point on Vilardi.

The only downer was Bracco. Very likeable player but a Leafs
 

bbfan419

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You can't prepare for this tournament in a week. It's a year long battle to prepare for it. There's a lot of stuff involving the military going on all week - yes that's what the Memorial Cup is all about.

You can't ask a league champion to prepare for it in just days following a championship. And Neutral sites don't work. They've tried it. Like it or not, the CHL is a business that needs revenue to survive.

The CHL does a fine job in making sure the team that gets to host is competitive and has a chance to win. This isn't Korea or China hosting Olympic Hockey.

Erie, Saint John and Seattle are still champions. They just aren't Memorial Cup Champions.

I know for sure Dom, it takes a lot of prep work for the tournament, just does not feel right when the host who have been resting for so long win, while all the league champs had a long tough battle to win their respective championships. I remember when Moncton here were the host for the 2006 Memorial Cup, it was a lot of fun to watch, Moncton also won the QMJHL title that year, so Quebec got in as runners up and won it all, but it just felt like all 4 teams that year were deserving to be there.
 

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I know for sure Dom, it takes a lot of prep work for the tournament, just does not feel right when the host who have been resting for so long win, while all the league champs had a long tough battle to win their respective championships. I remember when Moncton here were the host for the 2006 Memorial Cup, it was a lot of fun to watch, Moncton also won the QMJHL title that year, so Quebec got in as runners up and won it all, but it just felt like all 4 teams that year were deserving to be there.

Are you saying Windsor was undeserving? Saint John and Seattle had nothing to go thru compared to Windsor and Erie.

The Otters had an easy first round with Sarnia while Windsor had to face London in a game 7 OT, who also took Erie to a game 7.

Not to mention game 1 was the first time Windsor has healthy all season long, including game 1 of the regular season.

Easy for me to say now, but Dan will tell you I told him Saturday, I picked Windsor to win it all. From the net on out, they were the best team at the Memorial Cup. No one can convince me otherwise.
 

bbfan419

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Are you saying Windsor was undeserving? Saint John and Seattle had nothing to go thru compared to Windsor and Erie.

The Otters had an easy first round with Sarnia while Windsor had to face London in a game 7 OT, who also took Erie to a game 7.

Not to mention game 1 was the first time Windsor has healthy all season long, including game 1 of the regular season.

Easy for me to say now, but Dan will tell you I told him Saturday, I picked Windsor to win it all. From the net on out, they were the best team at the Memorial Cup. No one can convince me otherwise.

Well, they certainly had the best goalie in the tournament by a landslide, I still think Erie had more talent overall, but man Dipietro looked amazing, would love to see the Bruins grab him in the second round if he is still there. I know there are some goalies rated ahead of him, but he would become the best goalie prospect for the Bruins very quickly. Vladar needs work, McIntyre I think makes the NHL, but more in a back up role, Subban I was never sold on him, so yeah lets hope DS takes Dipietro with the Oilers pick.
 

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Yeah not a fan of a team winning and they only got in because they were the host. It should be whatever league is hosting that year sends the two teams from the finals. Erie was clearly the best team there, except for their goaltending Timpano is average to slightly above average, where Dipietro is very good.

Sorry, while I get what your saying, don`t agree with it but I see what your getting at however it`s impossible to just whip together a tournament like this on short notice, making sure all hotels have openings for accommodations, having all military personnel in place during the tournament among a slew of other reasons why this short tournament is set up the way it is.

I don`t get to watch much OHL hockey these days living where I do, but all I have read and heard was that Windsor played in arguably the strongest division there is and it was hardly like they backed into the playoffs then regardless what happens they get to host the tournament.

They showed their skill, I`m one who was more impressed with what they were able to do in light of having over a month off, if anything, IMO, that`s a huge disadvantage

About the only thing I would do with this tournament as far as change "might" be a best 2 out of 3 for the Cup but even then, that would be a nightmare for event planners
 

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Well, they certainly had the best goalie in the tournament by a landslide, I still think Erie had more talent overall, but man Dipietro looked amazing, would love to see the Bruins grab him in the second round if he is still there. I know there are some goalies rated ahead of him, but he would become the best goalie prospect for the Bruins very quickly. Vladar needs work, McIntyre I think makes the NHL, but more in a back up role, Subban I was never sold on him, so yeah lets hope DS takes Dipietro with the Oilers pick.

I agree with the bolded, but I wouldn't say a landslide.

Definitely take Windsor's defence over Erie's.

Would also take Windsor's bottom six over Erie's.

Strome, DeBrincat and Raddysh are ahead of Windsor's big guys, but Brown, Vilardi and Bracco are no slouches.
 

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