GloryDaze4877
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Never got an invite...
Plus, you seem like you have your hands full, every time I talk to you, there's another kid on the way
2017 Mastercard Memorial Cup (Bruins edition)
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Never got an invite...
Plus, you seem like you have your hands full, every time I talk to you, there's another kid on the way
DominicT
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Sometimes we forget what the 99 year old cup stands for. No trophy arrives with the fanfare and what it stands for like the Memorial Cup
https://ohlwriters.me/2017/05/19/memorial-cup-arrives-in-windsor/
https://ohlwriters.me/2017/05/19/memorial-cup-arrives-in-windsor/
No more kids...got that fixed.Never got an invite...
Plus, you seem like you have your hands full, every time I talk to you, there's another kid on the way
Going to Saturdays game...Erie vs Saintjohns.
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The Seadogs were the team that looked liked they had not played in 40+ days. One of, if not the, poorest games of their season. Lacklustre with no sustained attack for 55+ minutes and ran out of time in the comeback attempt. Regroup time for them. Credit to Windsor for their effort following a long, long lay off. Just the start they needed.
ODAAT
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Chabot is definitely fun to watch, he`ll need to harness the rover stuff a bit at the next level as he`ll get burned, I`m still not sure he won`t need to work a ton on the D side of things
In his first year, Chabot was, based only on my inexperienced eye, far less comfortable than Zboril. I can`t recall what his stats were that year but of the two, Zboril played a much more rounded game than Chabot.
Chabot`s style will always catch the eye of a viewer 8 days a week before Zboril`s just because of his flare for offensive side of things.
I loved Zboril`s hit that led to the penalty in the first, he over committed on the Spitfires first goal on the PK but I thought after that he played ok, not great.
GloryDaze4877
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The concensus Top 3 that year was Hanifin, Provo, and Werenski, in that order. Zboril and Chabot were both in the next group of D, from 15-25 (roughly). Some liked Zboril better, some Chabot. I can remember the B's being talked about with Zboril for some time, probably because everyone knew they needed D. I have no idea if the B's liked Chabot and don't recall them ever being linked to him, but I do know the B's liked Zboril's skating and his "nastiness".
I was at our HS Lacrosse Senior night and DVR'd the game, so I didn't see what happened last night, but I'm going to wait and see what happens when these two hit the pros before rushing to judgment. Werenski was considered by most to be number 3 in that group of 2015 and he has been the most impressive pro imo. It would not surprise me at all if Zboril actually had an easier transition to the pro game then Chabot.
Based on the little I have seen of both, Zboril is the much better defender and he skates as well as anyone I have seen. His "style" should allow him to break in on a lower pair and be effective. Chabot is a dynamic offensive player, but I'm not sure he will be allowed (or able) to play the same way in the NHL he did in the Q? In the most recent WJC's, I know Zboril had much better numbers, but I thought Lauzon was better overall in all 3 zones, and kind of got screwed by the TC coaching staff.
Probably just me, but I'm not a huge Chabot guy, based on a small sample size. Only time will tell and there is little point in crying over spilled milk at this point. I'm going to hope that the B's guys, Zboril and Lauzon, quickly take the next step and not worry so much about Chabot.
Chabot clearly is the better skater. But that takes nothing away from Zboril's skating ability. Z. Is more physical but Chabot is a better stick handler.
Time will tell, I guess, but they obviously play different styles.
As a side note, this is my first time watching a CHL Memorial Cup. I was very much impressed by the history and the ceremony. Must be #2 fan favorite tournament in Canada after SC.
Time will tell, I guess, but they obviously play different styles.
As a side note, this is my first time watching a CHL Memorial Cup. I was very much impressed by the history and the ceremony. Must be #2 fan favorite tournament in Canada after SC.
ODAAT
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indeed they do and Flynn had Chabot out often with Z for that reason, it allowed Chabot to roam and do his thing knowing there was a steady D-man back there if he got caught
Again, Chabot is an absolute blast to watch but he isn`t without his warts defensively, his mindset is often too focused on the offensive side of things and this leads him to cheat a bit too often. In Junior, he doesn`t pay the price for that as much as he would at the next level but he`s going to be a good one
World JRs and then Mem Cup I would say. Still doesn't get the attention it deserves.
Colt.45Orr
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This Otters team is 4 lines deep!
Seattle only has had one chance there where Barzal got them all turned around behind the net but other than that is has been wave after wave from the OHL Champs.
Seattle only has had one chance there where Barzal got them all turned around behind the net but other than that is has been wave after wave from the OHL Champs.
BronxBruin
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Zboril underwhelmed me last night. He was personally responsible for the first 2 goals against, he took an unnecessary penalty, and he fumbled the puck a number of times throughout the game. He made a couple nice passes (including his assist) but I expected much more from him.
Colt.45Orr
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I'm usually underwhelmed when I watch him.
Speaking of which, Bear (what a great name for a Bruin!!) has been awful in the first period and he is the WHL's top Dman and is usually clutch, so I'm willing to give Zboril a bit of a free pass for nerves in the first game. I guess.
JZ and his teammates did not play near their capability. They could not find a tempo or develop a rhythm. Out of sync with passes not connecting and unable to establish sustained pressure until the last minutes of the third. Could have easily been mistaken in thinking they were the team that had not seen game action in 7 weeks and not the spitfires. In a short tournament can't afford to have two of those type of games or you could be headed home early.
Did not mind the introduction Z made to Sergachev. Sending a message early in the game that there will be a price to pay physically down low for the opposition. Picking the best D on Windsor to lean on hard was likely not unintentional. He can punish players. Admittedly would prefer he did keep a cross check out of the equation.
Erie showing the Tbirds what their strength is. Came in waves at them. Four different goal scorers is perhaps a glimpse of how it may be difficult to contain a balanced offence. If allowed to wheel they look to have the ability to burn opponents. Good start for them. Unsure what to think of Tbirds after seeing them play for the first time. Brazil looks similar to Marner with his style of play.
Colt.45Orr
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Agreed. On a side note: Marner had Tkachuk and Dvorak on his line last year --all 3 guys were special for their NHL team this year (Dvorak finished hot). Barzal doesn't have the same quality on his wings (obviously) and is targeted 2-1 lots of the time --if you tried doing that to the Knights then the other 2 would bury you.
The 'Birds didn't look their best, that's for sure but I know lots of people think that the Regina Pats would have done better in this tournament because (well, they were the #1 ranked team in the CHL for a reason) because they, like the Otters, can hit you with offense from a bunch of different lines whereas the Birds are, essentially, Barzal's line, a hot goalie, Bear and a bunch of checkers with heart and timely goals.
The Pats would have been a better team here but the TBirds won the right to be here and can beat any of these teams. But, I would argue, they are going nowhere with Bear looking so bad (hand injury) as he drives the transition game and offense from the point. Without their lethal PP clicking, they will not win the Memorial Cup.
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Agree about themm not having their best game and that include Zboril who can be better but outside the "out of sync" term, Zboril fought with the puck more or less all game long (even got call out by the Q broadcaster) made a bad decision who directly cost the 1st goal and then was beaten wide wich directly cost the 2nd goal. He can make really good first pass at time but at other time he handle the puck like a grenade and for a supposedly defensive defensmen he makes a ton of big costly defensive mistake every game. In the ten + games I've seen he defenetly does errors than Chabt with a lot less ice time. Too me, Zboril dosen't have the consistancy or the decision making of a defensive dman, he is not an offensive dman, but he can have his time here and there. He's more of a two way guy who doesn't excel at any ends of the two imho.
Windsor jumps into the drivers seat while Seattle is clinging to the bumper. Brutal start for the Tbirds with 3 goals against in less than 40 seconds to open the game and chase the starter. Just too big a hole to dig themselves out of. Windsor has not missed a beat following the extended layoff. Not a single sign of rust. The host team is now guaranteed a semi final game which must make the organizers very happy.
Next up, Otters and the Dogs.
Next up, Otters and the Dogs.
