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WJC: 2017 Canada Roster Talk - Part 2

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IKnowNothing said:
Could it be they cut girard due to his size? As this is not a heavy team
What type of team do these final cuts tell you? Is it what you thought?
Is this a fast team? I see no cycle team here. I see a fast team with fast defense

Any thoughts please
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Don't think is about his size , hope not . 2016 defensemen have to move puck and beat F1 for be dominate #1 . Girard is that type of player , he's dominante in is way to play . Don't know why is cut .

Not a group of power-foward but have some big guys at forwards and some intense player . For know Ducharme , Canada will be in face , with a aggressive forecheck .

At D , like i say all defensemen can move puck but all Left D is more offensive and Right D more safe so we have 3 duo equilibrated . All D is mobile and have a good first pass , no Morin or Reinhart here . Interesting team
 
Not an overly big group of Dmen, but not tiny either. All above 6'0, Myers the tallest at 6'5.

Not the most physical group (especially compared to the 2015 D core). Some good playmakers out there with Chabot, Fabbro, and Bean.

I like this group more than our 2016 D core. Weaker than the 2015 group, stronger than the 2016 group in my view. On paper at least.
 
Clague is better defensively and more physical than Girard, that's why I think Girard got cut. Chabot and Bean are solid offensive defencemen and we don't really need a 3rd one. Clague can move the puck well, he was excellent at the Super Series, he has a really good shot (better than Girard) and can also move the puck up well. I like Bean-Juulsen, Chabot-Myers, Lauzon-Clague as best pairings. I can see why Senyshyn got cut, he's fast, good offensively, but he is just not dynamic enough defensively and all-around a good enough player. Speers can win more puck battles, kill on the PK, and plays with higher hockey sense in a team environment. Steel probably isn't big enough physically to make the team or quick enough.
 
Get North said:
Clague is better defensively and more physical than Girard, that's why I think Girard got cut. Chabot and Bean are solid offensive defencemen and we don't really need a 3rd one. Clague can move the puck well, he was excellent at the Super Series, he has a really good shot (better than Girard) and can also move the puck up well. I like Bean-Juulsen, Chabot-Myers, Lauzon-Clague as best pairings.
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Good post, I agree. Regarding pairings, you got Fabbro as #7? He's 18 and being an NCAA player we should get two years out of him which is good.

I thought Fabbro was the best Dman at the U-18s, it'll be between him and Clague (both 18 year olds) for the #7 spot.
 
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/809223231559397376?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

A little disappointed that NYI and ARI wouldn't let Beauvillier, Chychrun, and Crouse go. Both teams are at the bottom of the standings and the environment can't be good for these young players.

On the other hand I am really excited about the guys who made the team. Here are some line combos that I'm thinking about.

Jost-Strome-Raddysh (Raddysh has shown his OHL leading scorer season is no fluke so far at selection camp, why not put him with his club teammate and give him the chance to put some more pucks in the net)
Dube-Barzal-Stephens (A couple WHL guys that can burry the puck, with Stephens being the most qualified guy to get them the puck)
Dubois-McLeod-Gauthier (Big boy line with a chance to dominate down low on the cycle and be the most dominant possession line in the tournament)
Joseph-Cirelli-Speers (I know Speers is injured but Joseph has been the guy who's really impressed me in camp, I thought Sam Steel would of beat him out for a job but he proved me wrong completely)
Roy

Chabot-Juulsen (could very well be the most dominant d-pair at the tournament, both PP and PK)
Bean-Myers (Myers will compliment Bean's offensive ability to push the play and be dominant second pair)
Lauzon-Fabbro (Both play a hard defensive game with offensive upside, can't really complain when you got a first round pick on your third d-pairing)
Clague

Hart
Ingram
(Hart gets the edge for me, overally just has been the better goalie at this age group since the U18's last year)
 
snipes said:
Not an overly big group of Dmen, but not tiny either. All above 6'0, Myers the tallest at 6'5.

Not the most physical group (especially compared to the 2015 D core). Some good playmakers out there with Chabot, Fabbro, and Bean.

I like this group more than our 2016 D core. Weaker than the 2015 group, stronger than the 2016 group in my view. On paper at least.
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I completely agree, last year's defense as a whole let the team down.
 
Definitely one of the weakest teams we've assembled in a while, but certainly still in contention. Should be a fun couple weeks, as always
 
leafs1396 said:
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/809223231559397376?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

A little disappointed that NYI and ARI wouldn't let Beauvillier, Chychrun, and Crouse go. Both teams are at the bottom of the standings and the environment can't be good for these young players.

On the other hand I am really excited about the guys who made the team. Here are some line combos that I'm thinking about.

Jost-Strome-Raddysh (Raddysh has shown his OHL leading scorer season is no fluke so far at selection camp, why not put him with his club teammate and give him the chance to put some more pucks in the net)
Dube-Barzal-Stephens (A couple WHL guys that can burry the puck, with Stephens being the most qualified guy to get them the puck)
Dubois-McLeod-Gauthier (Big boy line with a chance to dominate down low on the cycle and be the most dominant possession line in the tournament)
Joseph-Cirelli-Speers (I know Speers is injured but Joseph has been the guy who's really impressed me in camp, I thought Sam Steel would of beat him out for a job but he proved me wrong completely)
Roy

Chabot-Juulsen (could very well be the most dominant d-pair at the tournament, both PP and PK)
Bean-Myers (Myers will compliment Bean's offensive ability to push the play and be dominant second pair)
Lauzon-Fabbro (Both play a hard defensive game with offensive upside, can't really complain when you got a first round pick on your third d-pairing)
Clague

Hart
Ingram
(Hart gets the edge for me, overally just has been the better goalie at this age group since the U18's last year)
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Put Roy in for McLeod and I think that's a more likely situation
 
snipes said:
Good post, I agree. Regarding pairings, you got Fabbro as #7? He's 18 and being an NCAA player we should get two years out of him which is good.

I thought Fabbro was the best Dman at the U-18s, it'll be between him and Clague (both 18 year olds) for the #7 spot.
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It's just about balance for me. I like either offensive with defensive defenceman or all-around with all-around. Clague and Lauzon are both all-around so I had them together and I like having a '97 with a '98 if there is no '97 for them to be paired with. Clague and Fabbro on the bottom-pairing could be deadly but both still lack in experience and physical maturity. That's why I like a sturdy guy like Lauzon with one of them, or Juulsen with a '98.
 
I really like how the HC didn't just give spots to players who have a good reputation and how they did in their junior leagues/where they got drafted in the NHL. A guy like Senyshyn could have been on the team, he looks to have attractive skills and he's a first rounder. But, he wasn't as impressive in the summer camp, the Super Series, or the selection camp. In a team environment it's important to have players who can play with the team, not saying Senyshyn or Steel can't, but look at someone like Cirelli. Cirelli can play anywhere in the line-up, he doesn't try to carry the team offensively. He's high hockey sense, hard-working, gritty player that wins the puck battles and knows how to play off teammates. That's why someone like Cirelli made the team, he was so good in the selection camp, the summer camp, and the Super Series. Cirelli and Stephens will be key players on this team IMO.

Joseph-Roy-Speers can be a good line, they had a good camp and all add something to the line. I also think Cirelli-Stephens-Dube can be a good line as well on a checking line. Speed, hockey sense, grit.
 
tigervixxxen said:
Bob says no order but...
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Noticed that too. I like your boy Jost up on the 1st line, he was unreal at the U-18s and he's over a PPG as an 18 year old freshman for UND right now. One of my favourite players from last years draft.
 
snipes said:
Myers is solid.

If the Flyers had a 3rd player going, he was likely the captain :).
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What's crazy, is that the Flyers could have 9 guys making the WJC this year....and that does not include Konecny or Provy.

Hextall is building some nice depth.
 
Tripod said:
What's crazy, is that the Flyers could have 9 guys making the WJC this year....and that does not include Konecny or Provy.

Hextall is building some nice depth.
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Absolutely, he's a drafting Czar. Arguably the best in the business right now, Myers was signed as a free agent after the draft wasn't he?

Provy bouncing back nicely, can't believe some of the trash people were writing about him following the Memorial Cup and his first game. We've chatted lots, you know I'm huge on Provy. He's been playing excellent lately from what I've been hearing.

Konecny would definitely be the captain of this team. He was the only one who played the Canadian way last year, he was flying out there and throwing huge hits on the forecheck. He played with the full out 100% effort that is demanded of anyone wearing the Canadian sweater.
 
I really like that defensive core. Very modern with guys who can skate and move the puck. If Canada wins gold it will be off the back of those defensemen IMO. Forward group is weak but tough when Crouse, Marner, Beauvillier and Konecny all are in the NHL. Never seen Strome step up to the occasion and lead a team. Lets see if he can do it this time. Maybe if you pair him with his buddy Raddysh and Jost they can have a big impact. Then have Dubois and Barzal on a 2nd line, perhaps together with a sniper like Stephens.

Jost-Strome-Raddysh (primary scoring line)
Dubois-Barzal-Stephens (secondary scoring line)
Joseph-Roy-Gauthier (strong two-way line with size)
Cirelli/Dube-McLeod-Speers (versatile line with speed)

Chabot-Juulsen (all situations strong top-pairing)
Bean-Myers (offensive pairing getting a zone push)
Lauzon-Fabbro (defensive pairing with good puck-moving abilities)
Clague

Honestly, lining it up like this the team looks pretty good after all. Think it's important the team gets rolling from the start with goals coming from multiple lines. If they have trouble scoring at the start of the tournament it could be an early exit. That D is really strong though.
 
CanadianSniper said:
I'd say the coaching last year was what really let us down.
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Coaching was abysmal. Over-relying on little Joe, insisting on Strome-Marner together and just overall dumb choices.

The guys deserve blame though for last years performance, our 19 year olds didn't step up. We played like a soft Euro style team and lacked the heart and soul Canadian style hockey. It was disgusting.
 
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